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    Exclamation safety

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    you could use the recent posted study about roids and crime. It points out that there is no relation betwen steroid use and violent crimes.

    If you have free axess to peer review journals look up this one
    The new england journal of medicine
    July 4 1996
    THE EFFECTS OF SUPRAPHYSIOLOGIC DOSES OF TESTOSTERONE
    ON MUSCLE SIZE AND STRENGTH IN NORMAL MEN
    S. Bhasin
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum
    This is a quote from the whole article
    Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, with or
    without exercise, did not increase the occurrence of
    angry behavior by these carefully selected men in the
    controlled setting of this experiment.
    Our results,
    however, do not preclude the possibility that still
    higher doses of multiple steroids may provoke angry
    behavior in men with preexisting psychiatric or behavioral
    problems.
    Our results in no
    I can mail you the whole thing.

    I assume you are going to focuse on proving AAS does not increase agression since that is the only plausible reason for banning it?

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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

    RESULTS: Among the men in the no-exercise groups, those given testosterone had greater increases than those given placebo in muscle size in their arms (mean [+/-SE] change in triceps area, 424 +/- 104 vs. -81 +/- 109 square millimeters; P < 0.05) and legs (change in quadriceps area, 607 +/- 123 vs. -131 +/- 111 square millimeters; P < 0.05) and greater increases in strength in the bench-press (9 +/- 4 vs. -1 +/- 1 kg, P < 0.05) and squatting exercises (16 +/- 4 vs. 3 +/- 1 kg, P < 0.05). The men assigned to testosterone and exercise had greater increases in fat-free mass (6.1 +/- 0.6 kg) and muscle size (triceps area, 501 +/- 104 square millimeters; quadriceps area, 1174 +/- 91 square millimeters) than those assigned to either no-exercise group, and greater increases in muscle strength (bench-press strength, 22 +/- 2 kg; squatting-exercise capacity, 38 +/- 4 kg) than either no-exercise group. Neither mood nor behavior was altered in any group. CONCLUSIONS: Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone, especially when combined with strength training, increase fat-free mass and muscle size and strength in normal men.
    This one clearly shows that 600mg/week 10 week cycle doesnt cause roid rage

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    this one is a bit less positive but cleary shows its not as bad as the media claim
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    CONCLUSIONS: Testosterone administration, 600 mg/wk increased ratings of manic symptoms in normal men. This effect, however, was not uniform across individuals; most showed little psychological change, whereas a few developed prominent effects. The mechanism of these variable reactions remains unclear.
    Would be a perfect comparison with alcohole that clearly makes some people agressive but not most.

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    very good stuff

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    show the interview done

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    I seem to remember a thread that was going last week that was started by a doc bitching to us about AS. There was tons of info and links in it. I'll see if I can find it.

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    Here you go, the is a really good video somewhere in there about the DEA, FBI, CIA not wanting to ban AS and how there are hardly any proven severe negative effects:
    Do people think of their heart when they ingest clanbuterol?

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    You have to filter through alot of BS too but the info is in there.

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