New bill passed allowing U.S. Postal Service to open any packages!

[R1Champ]

Hey this thread is just to let everyone who orders through the mail know that Prez. Bush passed a bill about a month ago allowing the postal service to open any and all packages, letters, etc.. that looks suspicious w/o a warrant. This means that if your local post man suspects something he now has the authority to open your mail. This goes hand in hand with the homeland security policy this is why there is a increasing amount of seizure notices. So this is the price that we must pay for freedom!

[Dobie-BOY]

Is that just with the USPS or fed ex and UPS also?

[jdm95lude]

Usps

[R1Champ]

Currently I only know of the USPS doing this but if it's coming in from over seas customs my step in and check out the package!

[Snrf]

So this is the price that we must pay for freedom!

edited...never mind, dunno if thats classed as political and im always in trouble so i'll leave it out

[Dobie-BOY]

I dont know why anyone would use the USPS anyway. The USPS is a government agency. As far as I know that makes it a FEDERAL OFFENSE!! Much worse, I think, but Im no lawyer.

[MartyMcFly]

I dont know why anyone would use the USPS anyway. The USPS is a government agency. As far as I know that makes it a FEDERAL OFFENSE!! Much worse, I think, but Im no lawyer.

Usps is (was) safer than ups or the like.

[MuscleScience]

Yeah USPS was bound by political conserns, the thought of an goverment agency opening packages without a warrent was a big deteriant. Maybe the ACLU will step in and sue the goverment over it

[Random]

Usps is (was) safer than ups or the like

I agree....

[spywizard]

president bush does not pass laws, congress does, he signed it.. and the democrats are in control of congress??

does this sound like a political thread?? because you know we don't have a forum for that here..

[Panzerfaust]

Americans just love taking it in the ass..oh sorry excusme..they do this to protect us from terrorism. Sorry

[StoneGRMI]

president bush does not pass laws, congress does, he signed it.. and the democrats are in control of congress??

does this sound like a political thread?? because you know we don't have a forum for that here..

Exactly my thoughts. "President Bush passes the law...". Not even close.

[chest6]

wont go through

if your source can pack well you're fine

[juicy_brucy]

Americans just love taking it in the ass..oh sorry excusme..they do this to protect us from terrorism. Sorry

I feel for you guys... i really do. It's a bad situation you citizens are in...

[juicy_brucy]

This sucks, cause now when I order from the USA, I feel that I am at risk... Man, what a low blow.

[dece870717]

Americans just love taking it in the ass..oh sorry excusme..they do this to protect us from terrorism. Sorry

The goverment isnt protecting us from terrorism they are the terrorists. How many rights have been taken away by Bin Laden or other "terrorists"? The answer... none, the goverment took them, there the only ones that have the power to do it.

But back to the topic, customs have checked my packages now, they never did before. I ordered some amps of Aflutop and the envolope was obvisouly opened and looked at and had a US Customs Stamp Release on it. And I ordered some clen tabs and armidex at the same time as the Aflutop and that package is still not here. I'm fairly confident that they just took it and kept it, I'll probably get a seizure letter soon and now my address is probably flagged which sucks since that source had such good low prices and have to be forced to use my ship WITHIN USA source which is about twice the price as the european source.

[MuscleScience]

We all need to get together and have a million juicer march on Washington. We have no say at all

[dece870717]

We all need to get together and have a million juicer march on Washington. We have no say at all

Don't forget to bring your banned semi-automatic weapons with you.

[SVTMuscle*]

We all need to get together and have a million juicer march on Washington. We have no say at all

That's what I'm thinking, hippies do it all the time for the war and stuff so we need to help our black market trade biz!

[Slowhand]

shit this pisses me off...

I should start mailing metal contractions with wires and a clock to my other house across the country to myself

maybe if enough false alarms happen theyll stop this shit

[armbar83]

Don't forget to bring your banned semi-automatic weapons with you.

they aren't banned anymore...

[armbar83]

Yeah USPS was bound by political conserns, the thought of an goverment agency opening packages without a warrent was a big deteriant. Maybe the ACLU will step in and sue the goverment over it

certainly gearheads are more important than nambla

[RuhlFreak55]

all our freedoms slowly being siphoned away all in the name of preventing terrorism......i wonder how bad this will get before anyone does something about it

[armbar83]

all our freedoms slowly being siphoned away all in the name of preventing terrorism......i wonder how bad this will get before anyone does something about it

you still have the freedom to buy gear, and you will also have the right to remain silent, an attorney and a comfy jail cell with brutus washington. freedom doesnt make it legal. what hes siphoning away is the probability youll get away with it.

[anabolics4life]

i say just make aas legal, and we wouldn't be having this problem... right?

[armbar83]

i say just make aas legal, and we wouldn't be having this problem... right?

with the exception of some, they are with a script...

[muaythaiguy76]

just wondering anyone have a guestimate how many gear users reside in the us? rough estimate haha

[chest6]

hmmmm...random ass guess...probably wrong

Whats hte U.S. population now? 280 million ish?

I'd say theres probably 2-3million gear users. Probably much less than that

No basis for that at all...just a random guess for fun

[jdDoWork]

so is it safe to order from the man still?

[Schmidty]

WTF happened to this country

[jamikehat]

WTF happened to this country

George W. Bush

[RuhlFreak55]

the country is slowly dying.....that's the problem....and we don't fight to keep our freedoms.....we let them take them away in the name of protection

[armbar83]

the country is slowly dying.....that's the problem....and we don't fight to keep our freedoms.....we let them take them away in the name of protection

i guess im confused about what freedoms we've actually lost...

[Tock]

president bush does not pass laws, congress does, he signed it.. and the democrats are in control of congress??

does this sound like a political thread?? because you know we don't have a forum for that here..

Geez, this is old news . . . this happened several months ago, before the 2006 elections . . . before the dems took control of things . . .

[Lavinco]

sorry ya'll but this is old news now.
I thought this was all over the news a month ago. There must be other threads here about it.

[Jack Carter]

president bush does not pass laws, congress does, he signed it.. and the democrats are in control of congress??

does this sound like a political thread?? because you know we don't have a forum for that here..

Hey, don't interrupt him! He's parroting talking-points he got off of the internet with little clue as to what he's talking about Who are you to expose sheer ignorance?

[Jack Carter]

The goverment isnt protecting us from terrorism they are the terrorists. How many rights have been taken away by Bin Laden or other "terrorists"? The answer... none

I agree 100%. Life isn't a freedom at all, therefore Bin Laden is not a terrorist and does not take away freedoms.

[Doc.Sust]

so if this official and current or still not in use?

[Bojangles69]

Im trying to put myself in the shoes of the actual mailmen.
If I was a mailman would I give 2 shits what was in the box I was delivering?
Especially if I did this shit day in and day out.
I mean do mailmen have any other incentive (besides moral) to open these packages. LIke a commision of some sort?

[Doc.Sust]

Im trying to put myself in the shoes of the actual mailmen.
If I was a mailman would I give 2 shits what was in the box I was delivering?
Especially if I did this shit day in and day out.
I mean do mailmen have any other incentive (besides moral) to open these packages. LIke a commision of some sort?

good point, if i was a mailman i wouldnt care at all. but you never know about some jerk supervisor who has a bug up their ass