8 yrs catching shoplifters saw 1st gun

**Tapout** · 05-02-2007, 10:34 PM

wow
been catching shoplifters for 8 years--have well over 1200 apprehensions and got a teenage gang banger today that I realized had gun in his jeans. first time I had that happen--just glad I saw it
told him to sit his ass down and put hands behind head ---I told him his hand goes near the front of his pants I will bust your ass and take you down and pop every joint I can find ( many armlocks would have come) then I put cuffs on him and felt a little better
My job is cool --I make my own schedule,dress any way I want,and walk around---I see a Jerry Springer episode everyday at work with these idiots I deal with and get paid well for it. The police in the area I work always tease me about being on juice (of course now I have a perscription so I'm good) and I get to see some interesting people
but in the last 3 months I have had 1 person try for a knife,1 person walk toward me with a big knife hidden in his hands but I saw it in time and now a gun
people are getting crazy and these teens nowadays--wow

**MuscleScience** · 05-02-2007, 10:43 PM

Thats why im getting my carry and concile permit. Be careful man there are people out there that just dont care at all about anything.

**Tapout** · 05-02-2007, 10:46 PM

true bro
there are no family values left--kids having kids and wanting the govt to take care of them,not wanting to work and always in trouble to a point where they feel they have nothing to live for

**QuieTSToRM33** · 05-02-2007, 10:51 PM

What do you do for a living ... loss prevention ?

**Tapout** · 05-02-2007, 10:53 PM

yea
its really interesting and I can tell thousands of stories

**chest6** · 05-02-2007, 11:36 PM

Ive seen a few ppl run outta the store with a cartfull of drills but I couldnt do a damn thing but waive and call the LP lol...lucky.

**notanormalgent** · 05-03-2007, 01:03 AM

What kind of store?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 05-03-2007, 01:11 AM

good job buddy, that could have been some scary shit. Hats off to ya...

**zimmy** · 05-03-2007, 04:55 AM

wow those shoplifters must be dumb not to get out of legal trouble when some one hands them a break like that.

**scriptfactory** · 05-03-2007, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Tapout

wow
been catching shoplifters for 8 years--have well over 1200 apprehensions and got a teenage gang banger today that I realized had gun in his jeans. first time I had that happen--just glad I saw it
told him to sit his ass down and put hands behind head ---I told him his hand goes near the front of his pants I will bust your ass and take you down and pop every joint I can find ( many armlocks would have come) then I put cuffs on him and felt a little better
My job is cool --I make my own schedule,dress any way I want,and walk around---I see a Jerry Springer episode everyday at work with these idiots I deal with and get paid well for it. The police in the area I work always tease me about being on juice (of course now I have a perscription so I'm good) and I get to see some interesting people
but in the last 3 months I have had 1 person try for a knife,1 person walk toward me with a big knife hidden in his hands but I saw it in time and now a gun
people are getting crazy and these teens nowadays--wow

Is that legal? I would never do something stupid like shoplift, but know if some dude tried to put handcuffs on me I would kick his ass...

**thetank** · 05-03-2007, 02:44 PM

good job brotha...glad to hear the situation was delt with accordingly with no problems..some young jackasses dont realize how much they have to lose.
ive seen a couple knifes being a bouncer, but only one gun ever..and it was actually a cop pulling it on me...after he threw me to the ground that is, then he put the barrel at the back of my neck..why you ask? cause he thought i was breaking into a house...the interesting part, is it was the house i lived in.

**Serotonin** · 05-03-2007, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

Is that legal? I would never do something stupid like shoplift, but know if some dude tried to put handcuffs on me I would kick his ass...

I'm pretty sure if someone steals from a store and they have a firearm you can cuff them.

Hell, if I saw a firearm on anyone doing something illegal I'd skin my smoke wagon (if I had one) immediately, before they could do the same to me.

**spywizard** · 05-03-2007, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

Is that legal? I would never do something stupid like shoplift, but know if some dude tried to put handcuffs on me I would kick his ass...

detaining me does not mean touching me, as long as i follow verbal directions.. ... and always remember.. there is always someone bigger stronger faster than you would expect them to be..

or a punk ass with a gun..

ccp is great.. wife has one too..

**Panzerfaust** · 05-03-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

Is that legal? I would never do something stupid like shoplift, but know if some dude tried to put handcuffs on me I would kick his ass...

Ok, tough guy. Generally when one breaks the law, hand cuffing is allowed. What do they us ein Germany, sausages?

**Red Ketchup** · 05-03-2007, 06:57 PM

God god memories

I worked as a "loss prevention agent" for a summer when I was in college... that was wild. The security agency I worked for would cycle us between stores every other day so thiefs didn't get used to our faces.

As security agents the laws here allowed us to detain a suspect of a crime until the cops showed up to arrest them.

It was fun as a student job, but man I would not do it anymore...

Red

**thetank** · 05-03-2007, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

Is that legal? I would never do something stupid like shoplift, but know if some dude tried to put handcuffs on me I would kick his ass...

lol..what the hell are you talking about? its the guys job.
and i dont know what you think handcuffs are used for but they are actually made for the very reason of detaining and controlling a criminal, not to chain hookers to your bedpost ya twisted animal.

**scriptfactory** · 05-04-2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by muriloninja

Ok, tough guy. Generally when one breaks the law, hand cuffing is allowed. What do they us ein Germany, sausages?

I was asking if a normal person is allowed to handcuff another normal person. I'm not talking about police officers, etc. As far as I knew people in loss prevention weren't allowed to handcuff the people they detain. In fact, legally, they aren't even allowed to search their bags unless consent is given. So... my question again. As a person who works in loss prevention is it legal to detain another civilian with handcuffs? Is that like a citizen's arrest sorta' deal?

**scriptfactory** · 05-04-2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by thetank

lol..what the hell are you talking about? its the guys job.
and i dont know what you think handcuffs are used for but they are actually made for the very reason of detaining and controlling a criminal, not to chain hookers to your bedpost ya twisted animal.

But hookers are so much more fun!!!

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-04-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tapout

yea
its really interesting and I can tell thousands of stories

i have a few myself.
i worked in a ***artment store doing the very same ting while i was going to college.it is a fun job, but some times it gets out of hand. i got in a full fleged fist fight with a guy in the parking lot one day that stole an electric doorbell.
the things you see on the cameras are insane.i have see kids picking there nose and eating it, girls practialy changing their clothes out in the open, elderly people fall down escalators, a deer in the store, a bunch of thugs smash a jewelry case with a hammer and run, teh list goes on and on

SVTMuscle* · 05-04-2007, 10:25 AM

what are you like a agent bounty hunter?

**gigem** · 05-04-2007, 11:22 AM

hes the magnum pi of loss prevention bro

**scriptfactory** · 05-04-2007, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by gigem

hes the magnum pi of loss prevention bro

**Stock** · 05-04-2007, 11:30 AM

Great story... I Repo-ed cars a little for extra $$ in college. My uncle use to be a "loss prevention officer", at least that is what he use to call it, lol...

**Anabolic CEO** · 05-04-2007, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by notanormalgent

What kind of store?

Dollar General....LOL.

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-04-2007, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Red Ketchup

God god memories

It was fun as a student job, but man I would not do it anymore...

Red

neither would i.

**chest6** · 05-04-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

i have a few myself.
i worked in a ***artment store doing the very same ting while i was going to college.it is a fun job, but some times it gets out of hand. i got in a full fleged fist fight with a guy in the parking lot one day that stole an electric doorbell.
the things you see on the cameras are insane.i have see kids picking there nose and eating it, girls practialy changing their clothes out in the open, elderly people fall down escalators, a deer in the store, a bunch of thugs smash a jewelry case with a hammer and run, teh list goes on and on

why havent I ever seen this

**Snrf** · 05-04-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

why havent I ever seen this

a girl changing clothes? ionno...maybe cuz ur fat?

p.s this is a joke not a flame

**JDawg1536** · 05-04-2007, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by thetank

lol..what the hell are you talking about? its the guys job.
and i dont know what you think handcuffs are used for but they are actually made for the very reason of detaining and controlling a criminal, not to chain hookers to your bedpost ya twisted animal.

I think he is asking about the authority he has to detain. You have to be careful about what you do to people, never know who is gonna take you to court for hurting their feelings......

**Tapout** · 05-04-2007, 10:14 PM

whats up bros
wow this is getting to be a good one

script the law does allow for loss prevention to detain by force or handcuffs if necessary ***ending on the company you work for and the training involved. I am fully certified through the police in my area so I am allowed. It may ***end on the state you are in and it does ***end on the company you work for---
I do want to get one thing straight I am not a cop wanna be--I could have gone to police school but would have never passed the lie detector test about gear -also I have one criminal element to deal with and not have to go to a stolen cars window and wonder if some meth head is going to shot me. If I detain someone and they fight I can use what ever force is needed to get them in(thank God for 10 years of jiu jitsu cause I have had to use it many times and I have no weapon)--the thing is its a job and I dont try to fight anyone cause its not personal they did not steal from my house I only fight if no choice and if they fight they get many more charges

Red Ketchup-- its good seeing you again bro--been a long time
Perfect-thanks bro
Spy Wizard--well said
Doc-- so right about those stories

I have seen it all as well--I have had 2 girls change clothes on aisles,nose pickers,people peeing and 2 chicks go down an aisle so I started watching them and they started to make out--that was cool

Sometimes I wonder how long I will do this --espically at my age but it pays real well,make my own schedule (which is great go to work when I want)dress down and see some really interesting things

**Tapout** · 05-04-2007, 10:24 PM

why havent I ever seen this

chest6 hang in the right store for awhile and you will----some are like Jerry Springer episodes

**scriptfactory** · 05-04-2007, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Tapout

whats up bros
wow this is getting to be a good one

script the law does allow for loss prevention to detain by force or handcuffs if necessary ***ending on the company you work for and the training involved. I am fully certified through the police in my area so I am allowed. It may ***end on the state you are in and it does ***end on the company you work for---
I do want to get one thing straight I am not a cop wanna be--I could have gone to police school but would have never passed the lie detector test about gear -also I have one criminal element to deal with and not have to go to a stolen cars window and wonder if some meth head is going to shot me. If I detain someone and they fight I can use what ever force is needed to get them in(thank God for 10 years of jiu jitsu cause I have had to use it many times and I have no weapon)--the thing is its a job and I dont try to fight anyone cause its not personal they did not steal from my house I only fight if no choice and if they fight they get many more charges

Red Ketchup-- its good seeing you again bro--been a long time
Perfect-thanks bro
Spy Wizard--well said
Doc-- so right about those stories

I have seen it all as well--I have had 2 girls change clothes on aisles,nose pickers,people peeing and 2 chicks go down an aisle so I started watching them and they started to make out--that was cool

Sometimes I wonder how long I will do this --espically at my age but it pays real well,make my own schedule (which is great go to work when I want)dress down and see some really interesting things

Thanks for the info, man! I was really wondering about that one.