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    I am bored with my car already after putting a supercharger and some other goodies on it. My goal was 500 rear wheel horsepower and I achieved that as it was dynoed at about 505 rwhp. Now however I am going to pull the motor and build it to support even more boost. I told my self I was done once I got everything done with my current set up but speed is addictive and working on my car brings me great joy. My new goal is to get over 700 rwhp and make my car a real vette killer.
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    are you getting rid of the ls1 or trying to keep it?
    and are you a member of any ls1 forums? pm me if u are

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    simple answer is turbo - if you need specifics ask away

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    ewww trans am

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    0-60mph in less than 2 seconds is what you need.

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    What else you going to do to the car? That frame isn't made to hold that.

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    Forge The Motor, Sell The Supercharger And Buy A Turbo Kit. I Just Forged My Friends 2001 Cobra And We Sold His Current Setup
    (procharer S/c) Making 500hp. We Just Installed A Helion Turbo Kit And Hope To See 650+ Hp In A Couple Weeks. He Is Currently Breaking The Motor In On A Safe Tune. Then We Will Get A Real Hp/tq Tune For It

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    Quote Originally Posted by GETINLARGE
    Forge The Motor, Sell The Supercharger And Buy A Turbo Kit. I Just Forged My Friends 2001 Cobra And We Sold His Current Setup
    (procharer S/c) Making 500hp. We Just Installed A Helion Turbo Kit And Hope To See 650+ Hp In A Couple Weeks. He Is Currently Breaking The Motor In On A Safe Tune. Then We Will Get A Real Hp/tq Tune For It
    I had a turbo's 93 mustang gt. Never dyno'd it but it ran 10.40's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexed
    ewww trans am

    here ya go son

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    and yes thats my little sisters v6 mustang in the background of my TA pic lol

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    go big - 496, 540, 572, 632

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    What else you going to do to the car? That frame isn't made to hold that.
    can't hold 700hp? what exactly is the weakpoint?

    I work with supras where throwing over 1000 at the wheels is no problem with stock suspension/frame/ect

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceball44
    can't hold 700hp? what exactly is the weakpoint?

    I work with supras where throwing over 1000 at the wheels is no problem with stock suspension/frame/ect
    Do they have a cage?

    If you have traction and 700hp on a t/a with just sub frames your going to twist the car.

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    alot of them don't have a cage but the ones with around 1500whp do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceball44
    alot of them don't have a cage but the ones with around 1500whp do.
    I don't know how you guys do it. We have had cars with a lot less power then that twist. Doors not close properly i also seen a sun roof break,.

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    The step from 500 to 700 is much larger than 300 to 500. Do you have to pass smog btw?

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I don't know how you guys do it. We have had cars with a lot less power then that twist. Doors not close properly i also seen a sun roof break,.
    we also do not cut AS low 60ft times (still pretty good though) but i think it is mostly the suspension setups

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceball44
    we also do not cut AS low 60ft times (still pretty good though) but i think it is mostly the suspension setups
    Makes sence. What would be your normal 60ft? My mustang best was 1.47

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    The suspension is already ready for the power upgrade. I did my suspension before my procharger went on. And there is no way in hell im selling my procharger and getting a turbo. I am putting all new forged internals along with lower compression heads and upgrading the valve train. The fuel system has been upgraded to it should support around a 1000 hp in its current set up. I had planned on upgrading but not this soon. Like I said speed is addictive and who knows if im going to stop there. My set up is more geared to a street car set up so im going to keep it as a street machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience
    The suspension is already ready for the power upgrade. I did my suspension before my procharger went on. And there is no way in hell im selling my procharger and getting a turbo. I am putting all new forged internals along with lower compression heads and upgrading the valve train. The fuel system has been upgraded to it should support around a 1000 hp in its current set up. I had planned on upgrading but not this soon. Like I said speed is addictive and who knows if im going to stop there. My set up is more geared to a street car set up so im going to keep it as a street machine.
    throw some spray and a few more psi and 700whp should not be a problem

    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    Makes sence. What would be your normal 60ft? My mustang best was 1.47
    Here is a list of supras drag times http://list.to4r.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I don't know how you guys do it. We have had cars with a lot less power then that twist. Doors not close properly i also seen a sun roof break,.
    Same hear, Ive seen 350 ho mustangs pop sunroofs.

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    Bild out the motor to a 406 with 8:5.1 cp.
    you can then incress the boost up to 20psi.
    just make sure you have a good fuel system. I would also advise running a water injection system. Or a Nos intake air cooling system.

    what brand supercharging system do you have?

    you you guys that say yank out the sp and replace with a turbo are nuts. The turbos in a ta build to much heat. You can make that engine put out over 900hp with a blower running pumped gas. You also do not need to deal with the same bs that you would with the turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I don't know how you guys do it. We have had cars with a lot less power then that twist. Doors not close properly i also seen a sun roof break,.
    Easy the cars do not huck up. They spin or haze the tires. if you put slicks on it them you will twist the shit out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxxr
    Easy the cars do not huck up. They spin or haze the tires. if you put slicks on it them you will twist the shit out of it.
    I just saw their 60ft times. That explains it. I would rather have a car with 500hp and traction then 700hp and spin. Sounds like a big dick competition. Who cares what it makes on the dyno if you cant use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I just saw their 60ft times. That explains it. I would rather have a car with 500hp and traction then 700hp and spin. Sounds like a big dick competition. Who cares what it makes on the dyno if you cant use it.
    dude are you serious there are 33 cars on that list that runs 9s or faster and most are full weight street cars. I would rather have a car that can actually handle the power than twist the frame....

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceball44
    dude are you serious there are 33 cars on that list that runs 9s or faster and most are full weight street cars. I would rather have a car that can actually handle the power than twist the frame....
    Yea I'm serious. My mustang was a full street car and 60ft better then 60% of those 9 sec cars. My car didn't twist

    I don't understand you last sentence. Handle the power also means being able to put it to the ground. Handling the power isn't 60ft like a 12 sec car then running a low 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I don't know how you guys do it. We have had cars with a lot less power then that twist. Doors not close properly i also seen a sun roof break,.
    I was talking about when you said this

    and good for your mustang, to bad there is not a track with a 60 ft. contest and what really matters is the e.t.

    This is getting too off topic I'm done arguing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxxr
    Bild out the motor to a 406 with 8:5.1 cp.
    you can then incress the boost up to 20psi.
    just make sure you have a good fuel system. I would also advise running a water injection system. Or a Nos intake air cooling system.

    what brand supercharging system do you have?

    you you guys that say yank out the sp and replace with a turbo are nuts. The turbos in a ta build to much heat. You can make that engine put out over 900hp with a blower running pumped gas. You also do not need to deal with the same bs that you would with the turbo.
    I have a procharger D1sc twin intercooler set up. I plan on only running about 14-16 lbs of boost. I may run a methanol injection set up they work pretty good and are dirt cheap. I may stroke it out to a 382 cid I have seen another setup similar on another guys TA that dynoed at over 800 RWHP and still got 27 mpg on the highway. My goal is a streetable daily drive not really a full race car. I do plan on running it at the track of course.

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    My buddys set up is insane. hes got 900whp+ comming out of his stang. ill post what hes got when i talk to him later

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience
    I have a procharger D1sc twin intercooler set up. I plan on only running about 14-16 lbs of boost. I may run a methanol injection set up they work pretty good and are dirt cheap. I may stroke it out to a 382 cid I have seen another setup similar on another guys TA that dynoed at over 800 RWHP and still got 27 mpg on the highway. My goal is a streetable daily drive not really a full race car. I do plan on running it at the track of course.

    OK if your only going to run 15psi you should go 9:1. The meth injection works well.. You can easy make that kind a powder your looking for.

    But if you stroke it do the 406. You will be much happer. you have a shit load of buttom end. Eagle makes a nice crank and rods. Get the j&E pistons and the crolwer rockers.

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    twin turbos and nos oh yeah and 1g of test per week lol

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    god I hate T/A's, the only ones I like are the 69's and 70's, which my dad has one of each. Now we just need a 69 TA convertible.....mmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxxr
    OK if your only going to run 15psi you should go 9:1. The meth injection works well.. You can easy make that kind a powder your looking for.

    But if you stroke it do the 406. You will be much happer. you have a shit load of buttom end. Eagle makes a nice crank and rods. Get the j&E pistons and the crolwer rockers.
    I was actually thinking about that I browsed the eagle website just before I read this post. I have the heads I want picked out just cant decide if I want to stay stock ci or not.

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    Originally posted by:juiceball44
    I would rather have a car that can actually handle the power than twist the frame....
    No production car is designed to handle that kind of power AND put it to the pavement. Those Supras might be running 9's in full street trim, but similar weight cars that hook are doing the same with ~300+HP less.

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    No needs for turbo,no supercharger...you need a mege blower...like this...




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    can't you supercharge and turbo a car at the same time?

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    ^^Off the top of my head I don’t see why you couldn’t do both from a technical perspective, but you would quickly encounter a point of diminishing returns on the performance side of things. One would be far better off to spend the extra $$ on an intercooler upgrade, methanol injection, or nitrous.

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