How To Break The Ice?!?!

[Kennedy]

How did you guys go about convincing your significant other or family members that steroids aren't all that bad as other prescribed drugs out there? I have yet to start my first cycle but I tell my S.O. that I am interested in doing them one day but not right now. She said they are bad blah blah blah gave me all the stereotypes and what not.

I've opened her eyes a to the light slightly but still not fully. She wants to to know why I'd waste money on it. She said that she does not want to me to put here is the key word "unprescribed drugs" into my body.

But yet here I am on 40mg of Prednisone and I feel like extra shit that past few days and she is ok with it. I said look I am taking the same shit, except it has the total opposite and worse effect than anabolic steroids.

She basically said that if I ever did them without telling her she would probably leave me, but not for good she can't handle that. But I told her that our relationship is based off of 110% trust (which she also agrees upon) and if I ever did decide to do them I would tell her. Her response to that was I appreciate that you would disclose that information to me but I still would not support you or your choice for doing it, she said she wasn't sure if she would leave me but yet she said she would be very disappointed in me.

I also argued that I'm doing it to look good for myself and mainly for her. Anyway she gave me the B.S. that you look good just the way you are and blah blah blah, anyway I'm rambling if you've made it this far.

So tell me guys what helped you to break the ice with your family or significant other to the use of AAS.

[x_moe]

tell her to join the forum

[Kennedy]

tell her to join the forum

She isn't much of a forum type person but I do show her certain threads and such. Thanks for the idea I'll give it a whirl.

[cfiler]

Inject them while they are sleeping. Then they automatically become one of us.

Seriously though, I don't even bother trying to convince anyone. My fiance is the only one who knew about my previous cycles. The less people who know, the better.

[Kennedy]

Inject them while they are sleeping. Then they automatically become one of us.

Seriously though, I don't even bother trying to convince anyone. My fiance is the only one who knew about my previous cycles. The less people who know, the better.

I wish it was that easy....its not my family I'm worried about I could care less, but the GF is another story.

[l2elapse]

show her that interview done on steroids , its all over this forum, just run a search

[dece870717]

Just tell her to watch this http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv

[Kennedy]

Looks good so far, thanks Dece.

[johnmacdan]

I initially had my wife look at this site. She thought I would be a raving lunatic because all she had heard about was "roid rage ". This helped. I also had her read some medical information. She didn't understand a word of it, but it made her feel better. The only thing she is concerned about is where I get them and if we are going to get raided. I started HRT, but that is $$$$$$. I explained that I could make some new friends and cut the bucks down or stay with HRT and she could forget the new deck. They started on the deck this weekend.

She is onboard now and will even help with the injections. I can't raise my voice without her blaming the AAS though. She seems to forget I yelled alot before any of this.

[Kennedy]

Thanks for the feedback, problem is that my GF is a ****ing Nursing student so she thinks she knows every medical thing in the book......

My favorite so far is that I eat too much protein and I'm going to get liver damage and I should on be eating .7 of my bodyweight in kilograms worth of protein.

[taiboxa]

i just start talking about them in a very scientific manner so it goes over their head.. thats usually all it takes.

[Kennedy]

i just start talking about them in a very scientific manner so it goes over their head.. thats usually all it takes.

Well when she puppets what she learned in her Anatomy and Physiology class about what her professor taught her about steroids then its like beating a dead horse.

[RA]

Well when she puppets what she learned in her Anatomy and Physiology class about what her professor taught her about steroids then its like beating a dead horse.

Talk her to death on the subject. Thats what I did...she doesnt even bring it up anymore because she knows Ill talk about it the rest of the night if she does

[Kennedy]

Talk her to death on the subject. Thats what I did...she doesnt even bring it up anymore because she knows Ill talk about it the rest of the night if she does

I'll try anything at this point

[anaBROLIC]

i told my girl before she gives her opinion to hear me out and i explained how much i know about the subject, the time i put into researching all that i do. worked pretty well.

[longhorn814]

not worried about the girlfriend she's on var right now!! woo hoo!!

The parents used to bitch and lecture me every chance they got and now the doc put my dad on HRT and now they ask me for advice!!

[MFT81]

Thanks for the feedback, problem is that my GF is a ****ing Nursing student so she thinks she knows every medical thing in the book......

My favorite so far is that I eat too much protein and I'm going to get liver damage and I should on be eating .7 of my bodyweight in kilograms worth of protein.

Bro, we should hang out, my gf is also a nurse/just grad from nursing school, she also told me the same thing about pro intake,

as far as telling her/convincing her, she wont listen until she wants to, no matter what you show her or tell her.

best thing I could do to win the argument is when she went with me to a bodybuilding show last weekend, She took one look at Gunter Schlierkamp (who was guest poseing) And she didnt care what I had to do to look like him..

[Mogamedogz]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-pU3E8DuL...elated&search=

Tell her to watch the "Man Who's Arms Exploded"... The part where he is draining blood and fluid out of his Bicep with a crooked syringe that looks dirty...

[Kennedy]

Bro, we should hang out, my gf is also a nurse/just grad from nursing school, she also told me the same thing about pro intake,

as far as telling her/convincing her, she wont listen until she wants to, no matter what you show her or tell her.

best thing I could do to win the argument is when she went with me to a bodybuilding show last weekend, She took one look at Gunter Schlierkamp (who was guest poseing) And she didnt care what I had to do to look like him..

These ****in doctor/nurse people think they know everything it sickens me ! We should chill only if you lived in NJ!

I tried to sneak that interview with Gumbel during dinner and she wasn't having it. She kept saying oh well that old man is only one person who hasn't gotten sick blah blah blah.

So I said what about HRT, and her response is that it's prescribed by a doctor so then it's ok. But not prescribing isn't. Sounds like BS to me.

[lil'Taylor]

you know i originally said the exact same thing.. some loser's abuse the use and become complete rage idiots.. but if done correctly the s/e aren't so bad..

so anyways.. i told webb that he needed to show me research and explain everything and i would be more open to it.. we also had an agreement that if it was starting the cause problems with our relationship he would stop using..

i don't know if that has anything to do with her fear of you using them.. but that was a big part of it for me.. the best thing you could do is sit down and have a serious talk on WHY she is apprehensive about you using them (the primary reason is probably for the wellbeing of you or your relationship) and then try to negotiate from there

[Kennedy]

you know i originally said the exact same thing.. some loser's abuse the use and become complete rage idiots.. but if done correctly the s/e aren't so bad..

so anyways.. i told webb that he needed to show me research and explain everything and i would be more open to it.. we also had an agreement that if it was starting the cause problems with our relationship he would stop using..

i don't know if that has anything to do with her fear of you using them.. but that was a big part of it for me.. the best thing you could do is sit down and have a serious talk on WHY she is apprehensive about you using them (the primary reason is probably for the wellbeing of you or your relationship) and then try to negotiate from there

Sound advice and I expected nothing less than just that from a female on this board. The only problem is I can't even get her to the intial stage of sitting down to have a serious conversation on this. I have tons of patience so I will just keep nagging about it and she will break eventually.

[Prada]

Prednisone is a corticosteroid not the same thing, yet has alot of sideeffects as well. Just tell her youre taking muscletech product.

Seriously you cant blame people for their ignorance the media has vilified AAS and it up to you to show her the truth, via education.

[Kennedy]

Prednisone is a corticosteroid not the same thing, yet has alot of sideeffects as well. Just tell her youre taking muscletech product.

Seriously you cant blame people for their ignorance the media has vilified AAS and it up to you to show her the truth, via education.

Knew that pred was a corticosteroid, but yes it does have the same effects....has made me very aggressive recently at 40mg per day lol.

You're right about the media bullshit 95% of the battle is releasing those stereotypes she has so I can educate her with the real facts.

[Spartan13]

Prednisone is some nasty stuff, Ive had to use it several times for various things some real nasty side effects. But I too have the same problem with the wife, will not even talk about it. She thinks that I'm being extreme, in wanting to use it, but doesn't even flinch when she says that she wants breast implants. Go figure, supplementing a naturally occurring hormone in you body is more extreme and illegal, than elective surgery to insert saline bags into your chest. Who would have thought that?

[lil'Taylor]

Sound advice and I expected nothing less than just that from a female on this board. The only problem is I can't even get her to the intial stage of sitting down to have a serious conversation on this. I have tons of patience so I will just keep nagging about it and she will break eventually.

yikes.. well maybe she's use to having a 'her way or the highway" approach.. um... you know what.. girls melt when the guy they love look hurt.. if she's doesn't want to even talk about it the next time you try.. just be like, "listen.. this is a touchy subject.. i understand.. but it's coming between our relationship and that's the last thing i want.. but i need you to help me understand your point of view here.." sounds gay i know.. but it's better than breaking down crying.. chicks dont dig cryers.. well i dont anyways..