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I have read them and they far from answer my post...
Mike touched on the metaphor issue but missed the point and went off at a tangent (typical Dura style) - I did not suggest that by using the metaphor of satan it would cause satan to be somehow brought to life I simply asked for satanism to be explained without relying on a metaphor - shouldn't be too hard.
Ironreload gave his interpretation of "life after death through fulfillment of the ego" which is what I took it to mean which also does not make alot of sense, if there is no afterlife then it doesn't matter how inflated your ego is you are just dead.
He also kinda misunderstood the hope thing, maybe I phrased it badly, ignore the word hope and answer: What is the aim/goal of satanism? - is there anything more to it other than simply pleasing onesself? If thats it then I fail to see what the fuss/excitement is about.
The other issues I posed remain unanswered...
To the first and last part of your questioning. Perhaps you'll find the answers in this. Directly out of the satanic bible. It also will answer your questioning to "what is sin in satanism"
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SatanicBible
The Nine Satanic Sins
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SatanicBible
by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987
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1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
To your question about life after death and how if there is none that you can't fulfill it through the ego, well that's your oppinion I happen to view this differently.
Also To what is the goal/purpose of Satanism, well it's to choose to question things, find out stuff on your own, obtain knowledge, don't blindly accept things, live for oneself, etc, etc, etc... This question is too vague as that Satanist has multiple purposes while on earth vs. the single purpose of christianity in which it is to please god and be accepted into the afterlife.
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