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    starting online business-help

    Thinking about starting an online business that would offer home work and term paper help.

    Although this has been done many times around, I have come up with an interesting niche that has not been done yet.

    How do I go about opening up this type of business? Website etc. Around how much capital do I need to start up, and what are ways to market this business online and beyond?

    (I asked this question on yahoo answers and got unintelligent answers, so thought you guys may be more help. I'm not asking for someone to do the work for me, just advise and guidance.)

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    the site is not the issue, it's marketing it for others to give good reviews, but that would be easy too.. getting the site into the hands of people who are willing to pay, but then the college staff will get wind and order as well, then start expelling people cheating..

    that's the risk..
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    Yea, well thats why I was thinking of it as more of a "help" or an "edit" of papers. I dont want to have a cheat site, and the niche will fit perfect with this concept.
    Also, I want to learn how to incorporate and run a business, so even if it fails, its not the end of the world. I already have cash generating passive incomes, and Im only 25.

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    Note these differences of what's called cheating:
    In school-cheating
    Real world-finding the answers
    School doesn't always prep you for the real world, there's no cheating in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    Note these differences of what's called cheating:
    In school-cheating
    Real world-finding the answers
    School doesn't always prep you for the real world, there's no cheating in business.

    good point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    Yea, well thats why I was thinking of it as more of a "help" or an "edit" of papers. I dont want to have a cheat site, and the niche will fit perfect with this concept.
    Also, I want to learn how to incorporate and run a business, so even if it fails, its not the end of the world. I already have cash generating passive incomes, and Im only 25.
    Yea, however what you're referring to in college is known as "collusion." And that is punished just the same as plaigarism or cheating. If it is an individual assignment, you are not allowed to have help of that nature without explicit permission from the instructor.

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    Theres a sight like that that charges monthly and yearly. Its quite a pretty penny so damn!

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    If you google "term paper" there are alot of sites that offer custom term papers, at around $15-$25 per page. There must be some loophole that allows this, correct? Or could they be in the same class as websites that sell gear...

    If the legalities become an issue, then I may aim more for a "help" site, that does corrections for a client's paper before they hand it in, and makes suggestions. This of course will net a smaller profit per paper, but at least it wont be in the grey market.

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    As i said before, the niche is really what makes this considerable. I have some certified teachers (HS and College level) who are willing to do "corrections" and help construct papers or assignments. (you could call them freelance writers)
    It requires a very small intial investment, and I see it as a learning tool, for I have never operated a business online besides Ebay.

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    I dont see the whole, custom term papers thing, reaching Congress anytime soon. As far as laws against it, I dont believe there are any. Cheating is only banned within the institution. They have to catch the students. Law enforcement is not involved. I think you are fine to fabricate work completely. In fact, I encourage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather
    I dont see the whole, custom term papers thing, reaching Congress anytime soon. As far as laws against it, I dont believe there are any. Cheating is only banned within the institution. They have to catch the students. Law enforcement is not involved. I think you are fine to fabricate work completely. In fact, I encourage it.

    Yea, I think all of the risk is on the student. Ill have to find out about possible lawsuit from cliets if they get caught using service. Im sure a simple disclaimor agreement can solve this. To use AR's term, "for research purposes only"

    I am still thinking about keeping the sight in good ethical standing, by providing more of a proof reading service, but still not sure...

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    Anybody, with E-commerse experience, what are the best ways to go about getting a website published and or developed? And what are good marketing/adv techniques for the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    Note these differences of what's called cheating:
    In school-cheating
    Real world-finding the answers
    School doesn't always prep you for the real world, there's no cheating in business.
    The purpose of business if forwarding the purpose of the business, rather than of the individual. That is the purpose for the distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather
    I dont see the whole, custom term papers thing, reaching Congress anytime soon. As far as laws against it, I dont believe there are any. Cheating is only banned within the institution. They have to catch the students. Law enforcement is not involved. I think you are fine to fabricate work completely. In fact, I encourage it.
    It could be an interesting case...similiar to the idea of napster. They only provided the service for which illegally download songs. As a matter of fact, the user was actually committing the illegal act. However, as a matter of law, the courts determined that Napster, etc were responsible as well. In your case, your clients could potentially be the ones violating the copyright laws, but you are providing the service.

    However, this is definitely a stretch since the courts ruled this way for Napster as this was the exlusive purpose of the software. Your case, you do have valid research purposes. Also, it is not copyright infringment to turn something into class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWhitaker
    It could be an interesting case...similiar to the idea of napster. They only provided the service for which illegally download songs. As a matter of fact, the user was actually committing the illegal act. However, as a matter of law, the courts determined that Napster, etc were responsible as well. In your case, your clients could potentially be the ones violating the copyright laws, but you are providing the service.

    However, this is definitely a stretch since the courts ruled this way for Napster as this was the exlusive purpose of the software. Your case, you do have valid research purposes. Also, it is not copyright infringment to turn something into class.

    Yea, Im going to run this by my attorney just in case. There might be some kind of way I can protect myself just in case. By the way, if I end up doing this, I will be looking for freelance writers... But I still have to work out the numbers and payscale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    Yea, Im going to run this by my attorney just in case. There might be some kind of way I can protect myself just in case. By the way, if I end up doing this, I will be looking for freelance writers... But I still have to work out the numbers and payscale.
    Count me as a candidate

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWhitaker
    The purpose of business if forwarding the purpose of the business, rather than of the individual. That is the purpose for the distinction.

    huhhhh?

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    How would you know the answers to the papers? you would have to be a super genious (probably misspelled that) and even then alot of term papers are opinions of what the teacher likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    huhhhh?
    You were speaking of how school does not always teach you about the real world. What they call in finding answers in business is cheating in school.

    The purpose for the distinction is that while each are concerned with certain end products, those end products differ. In school, the end product is an individual who has attained knowledge or what not. Arriving at these answers by finding others who did it first does not further its goals. However, in business the end product they are concerned about is the end product that furthers the goal of the business, regardless of how that answer was arrived.

    I agree that school does not always teach you about the real world, but in the case of using someone elses answers I believe it does. One must be able to come up with their own conclusions derived from a logical standpoint.

    Was that any clearer? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    How would you know the answers to the papers? you would have to be a super genious (probably misspelled that) and even then alot of term papers are opinions of what the teacher likes.
    A lot of times, the paper will be so specific (ie - the sources are given to you, etc) that using a custom paper service may not work if the service is one that has pre written papers. However, many times the paper is one where you get to pick your own thesis, or the thesis that is given to you is a general one. This would be perfect for that. Secondly, even if you cannot find a paper that is directly on point, it definitely would be worth getting a good paper that is similiar and drawing out many of the ideas from it as well as sources...this saves a lot of leg time.

    Also, many paper services will allow one to post their paper topic, and then over a certain amount of time a person employed by the service will write the paper according to the certain provisions required.

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    ^^^huhhh yeah I know

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    Seems like alot of effort for little pay?

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    I need a paper written over a strategic management of the Yum! Brands using a SWOT analysis (10-15 pages) in APA format. U tell me how u would help?

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    That Sh*t Is hard as hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    Seems like alot of effort for little pay?

    If you write one general paper that gets bought for 30 bucks, 30 times, and you get half the money then that isnt too bad.

    As far as writting one paper once it wouldnt be as profitable. However, for 50-100 bucks for a 10 hours work isnt so bad. Writting highschool level papers or even undergrad is quite easy for many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swol_je
    I need a paper written over a strategic management of the Yum! Brands using a SWOT analysis (10-15 pages) in APA format. U tell me how u would help?
    What is SWOT analysis and what is Yum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWhitaker
    A lot of times, the paper will be so specific (ie - the sources are given to you, etc) that using a custom paper service may not work if the service is one that has pre written papers. However, many times the paper is one where you get to pick your own thesis, or the thesis that is given to you is a general one. This would be perfect for that. Secondly, even if you cannot find a paper that is directly on point, it definitely would be worth getting a good paper that is similiar and drawing out many of the ideas from it as well as sources...this saves a lot of leg time.

    Also, many paper services will allow one to post their paper topic, and then over a certain amount of time a person employed by the service will write the paper according to the certain provisions required.
    bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by swol_je
    I need a paper written over a strategic management of the Yum! Brands using a SWOT analysis (10-15 pages) in APA format. U tell me how u would help?
    Yum as in the bubble gum company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWhitaker
    What is SWOT analysis and what is Yum.


    Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats= SWOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWhitaker
    If you write one general paper that gets bought for 30 bucks, 30 times, and you get half the money then that isnt too bad.

    As far as writting one paper once it wouldnt be as profitable. However, for 50-100 bucks for a 10 hours work isnt so bad. Writting highschool level papers or even undergrad is quite easy for many people.

    Yea Im not trying to write phd level papers, just highschool and collge (targeting community colleges!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swol_je
    I need a paper written over a strategic management of the Yum! Brands using a SWOT analysis (10-15 pages) in APA format. U tell me how u would help?

    When is it due?

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