manual driving

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 09:44 AM

is it possible that i can teach myself to drive stick shift on the way home from the dealer without hurting the engine, the dealer said i could harm the engine if i didn't know how to drive stick shift properly

**Fordfan01** · 11-08-2007, 09:55 AM

dude u need to learn how to drive a stick before u buy a car that has one yes u can tear up the transmisson, clutch and so many different things

***G-1000*** · 11-08-2007, 10:03 AM

you could burn out the clutch. But if the car is new with a warranty who cares.

**Johny-too-small** · 11-08-2007, 10:05 AM

I drove home a brand new harley from the dealership when Id never rode a bike b4 in my life.

Is it under warranty?

**auslifta** · 11-08-2007, 10:07 AM

clutch and servos could get a little damaged

**Dizz28** · 11-08-2007, 10:08 AM

If the car doesn't have shift gates and you accidentally shift into 2nd instead of 4th, you could blow the motor or lock the wheels and lose control.

But you'll most likely just burn out your clutch

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 10:15 AM

it's got a 100,000 mile/lifetime warranty on transmission.. i want to drive manual but everyone is like "i'd teach you if i had a junky manual car sorry"

so idk what to do lol i'm scared of crashing on the way home from the dealer or something because i would be too busy focusing on hitting clutch etc and not on the road so much

**Dizz28** · 11-08-2007, 10:23 AM

I'm pretty sure that warranty doesn't cover a clutch. Things like brake pads, clutches and bulbs are all considered consumables and aren't usually covered in warranties unles you drive a BMW or similar that have the total maintenance built into it. And in that case even oils changes are free.

You burn out that clutch and it's going to cost you well over a grand, depending on make and drive train.

**Renesis** · 11-08-2007, 10:37 AM

Clutches are covered under warrenty only if the dealer believes that it failed on its own. But being your age is going to work against you, as they will think you were just clutch dropping the sh*t out of it. If you do decide to drive it home just turn on your hazards and go slow in the right hand lane. Go from 1st to 2nd and 3rd and sit maybe in 4th or w/e gear would be suitable for 40mph (if on a highway). It isn't to hard, but you are going to suck big time for the first week. By the end of the first month you will be fine. I learned to drive stick on my car, I beat the crap out of the clutch then and now and it has a solid 19k miles on it without any signs of slipping. Clutches can handle abuse just DO NOT RIDE THE CLUTCH!!!

**Johny-too-small** · 11-08-2007, 10:45 AM

What kind of car is it?

**StoneGRMI** · 11-08-2007, 11:49 AM

Learn on something else or get it to a large parking lot you can drive around in for a day. I wouldn't worry about ruining a clutch or anything but you'll just be stalling at every stop light looking like an idiot.

**Kratos** · 11-08-2007, 12:21 PM

I've seen a dude's wife take out her husbands week old 5 series bmw and burn the clutch out. He was pissed and they wouldn't cover it.

**Dizz28** · 11-08-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I've seen a dude's wife take out her husbands week old 5 series bmw and burn the clutch out. He was pissed and they wouldn't cover it.

3grand down the toilet...

**ottomaddox** · 11-08-2007, 01:23 PM

I remember 20 years ago when I learned how to drive stick on a rental car.
I wouldn't drive home from the dealership if I didn't know how to properly drive my new car. How are you going to be able to concentrate when you are playing with all the bells and whistles on your new car? You don't know 1 person that drives stick and can help you out?
Peace,
CR

**CAT1** · 11-08-2007, 01:42 PM

thats how i learned , as long as you dont ride the clutch you should be fine ... your just going to piss everyone off around you till you get home . Stay away from hills in the begining till you get used to the roll back...

**Amorphic** · 11-08-2007, 01:44 PM

just get someone else to take it home for you and learn how to drive it properly. no sense wearing out the clutch or putting any strain on any of the engine components

**batlin** · 11-08-2007, 02:55 PM

Come on guys, with the new cars out there, he isnt going to permanently damage the car if he learns on it on the way home.. it might not be the most exciting drive in the world but hey it wont burn the clutch out.. that is what the clutch it for.. ya you might take a few thousand miles off the clutch but in the grand scheme of things.. it wont kill it... most card wont even let you drop it into reverse if you are going forward.. tried this (on my 335i bmw) and it just wouldn't let me... no i wouldn't have dropped the clutch but it litterally wouldnt let me shift to reverse... so go for, have a good time

**Amorphic** · 11-08-2007, 03:07 PM

most likely you'll stall every time you stop. it takes a few days to get stick down, and i wouldnt want to do it in the middle of the day with a new car in the middle of town.

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by ottomaddox

I remember 20 years ago when I learned how to drive stick on a rental car.
I wouldn't drive home from the dealership if I didn't know how to properly drive my new car. How are you going to be able to concentrate when you are playing with all the bells and whistles on your new car? You don't know 1 person that drives stick and can help you out?
Peace,
CR

the infamous sayings "i wish i could but i don't have a peice of junk clutch car to teach you"

i just want to say thanks for everyone's input and their knowledge, i appreciate it.. i think i'ma just have my bro's gf drive it home form the dealer and i'll learn in a parking lot or something.. kinda sucks i can't take the first drive in the car

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 11-08-2007, 05:22 PM

driving clutch is easier than people make out pal, just wen you begin, featehr the throttle, then the clutch out slowly, you will feel the engine bitting the clutch then lower the handbrake and you will feel the car starting to move, then let the cluthc out further till all the way out and put on some gas

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 11-08-2007, 05:24 PM

when you are shifting up just let off the gas and press the clutch all teh way down, change gear up and let the cluthc out when in gear then put the gass on again
changing down is just the same only
brake then as sthe revs hit say 1500 clutch in and gear down then clutch out. easy

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 11-08-2007, 05:25 PM

gears are piece of piss

my hint, get it to a parking lot that is empty or quiet.

practice stopping and starting for 20 mins or so, you will have the shifting thing done then

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 11-08-2007, 05:28 PM

dont worry about clutch damage, its balls what people say, and if they do go, big deal.

On the 2nd-4th or 5th to 3rd. it known as a block change

say if i was going at say 90, and wanted to come to a stop, id hit the break, break it down all the way to say 1000 rpm then cluthc in in to 3rd clutch out and keep breaking, saves takign yoru hand off the wheel to change gear down all teh time 5-4-3-2-1.

The engine will break aid for you as well as the breaks, called "engine breaking"

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 11-08-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by batlin

most card wont even let you drop it into reverse if you are going forward.. tried this (on my 335i bmw) and it just wouldn't let me... no i wouldn't have dropped the clutch but it litterally wouldnt let me shift to reverse... so go for, have a good time

Ive always wondered about this, never tried it at a decent speed tho

I imagine at worst you will lock the diff up and end up wrapped around a tree on in a field on your roof sumwhere after doing about four 360degree spins

**big daddy k de** · 11-08-2007, 05:57 PM

lol i killed my clutch like that ouchhhh learn on a POS car b4 u drive your new one

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

lol i killed my clutch like that ouchhhh learn on a POS car b4 u drive your new one

even if i got someone next to me teaching me?

**Amorphic** · 11-08-2007, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ajc330

even if i got someone next to me teaching me?

google how to drive manual, it'll give you a good idea how. thats how i learned. do some reading to grasp the concepts and then go try. guaranteed you are going to stall quite a few times. the hardest part of driving stick is getting used to the friction point where the clutch engages. it takes practice

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 06:21 PM

yeah i saw a few google vids, thanks for the help fellas

i have the main idea of maual driving down, but just a few questions...
if i am driving around 55 or 65 and the light is green and it turns yellow when you approach and you won't make it, how do i downshift so quick to break and catch the red light..

and when i am slowing down, how do i know when to go form 5th gear to 4th gear, then 4th gear to 3rd gear and so on?

and to go from 1st gear to second gear, and i will know by the sound and feel of my car, correct? someone once told me to watch my rpms and do it in between 2000 and 3000 rpm

**Amorphic** · 11-08-2007, 06:31 PM

if you have a tach, you should shift at around 3k rpms as you accellerate. downshifting is the opposite, when your rpms start to drop you need to shift down or else you will stall. you'll find out when the best speeds are to do this if you just brake and push the clutch in and downshift, the engine will rev up as you downshift and the higher it revs, the lower your speed needs to be when you downshift to make the transition smoother.

keep reading and looking at vids and play around with the car to get the feel for shifting.

just make sure you arent redlining your tach.

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 11-08-2007, 06:33 PM

what kinda car is it anyway?

**Big** · 11-08-2007, 06:59 PM

Just get a rental car with a standard for a few days.

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 07:26 PM

08 lancer the test drive was awesome

**scottythebody** · 11-08-2007, 08:13 PM

Just make sure you plan a route home from the dealership that won't have you stopping on any hills and you should be fine

**spywizard** · 11-08-2007, 08:15 PM

go to the rental shop, rent a stick, drive for 1 day.. then pick up your new car..

**3bd** · 11-08-2007, 08:20 PM

r u kidding me? just drive the fvcker. a clutch is the best friend you'll ever have... beats the living shit out of automatic. have fun and "just do it". can you ride a dirt bike? then you can do this.

**Ajc330** · 11-08-2007, 08:49 PM

never rode a dirt bike hmm what's the rate for a 1 day rental

**3bd** · 11-08-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ajc330

never rode a dirt bike hmm what's the rate for a 1 day rental

alright then you're probably right to get some sort of experience first, but i seriously doublt you will damage anything unless your just totally wacked. it's the same learning curve we all went through and we didn't tear anything up - shortened the life? maybe, but who can really say. you'll be fine. just stay relaxed and know what it is you are doing. it would be best if you have a friend with a stick more than a rental cuz he/she could help talk you through the first couple of attemps.