Haven't filed Taxes

[BodyByAAS]

Hey, I'm 22 and I have never filed my taxes... alot of my work was under the table or 1099, and very minimal on the books or w-2

I want to clear up my backed taxes and see where I stand but I dont know what the best way to do it is...

Any advice?

[suprman09]

I would go to an accountant ASAP.

[suprman09]

The longer you wait the more you will have to pay as the IRS charges late fees, penalties, and interest.

[Logan13]

Hey, I'm 22 and I have never filed my taxes... alot of my work was under the table or 1099, and very minimal on the books or w-2

I want to clear up my backed taxes and see where I stand but I dont know what the best way to do it is...

Any advice?

were your earnings over the past couple of years significant?

[StoneGRMI]

Meh, you'll be ok. Just never pay them...jk. Have an accountant run your information to see how much you owe right now.

[BodyByAAS]

not really.. the w-2's had to be only a few grand at MAX...even the 1099 income was only a few k.. i think im covered wuth the 3k for perosnal deduction and the 8k so worst i could owe is the 10%..i probably broke even..im just scared sicne I didnt file at all..

I dunno if its better just to start filing and see if they catch up..or call and apologize and try to fix it you know?

[BodyByAAS]

Meh, you'll be ok. Just never pay them...jk. Have an accountant run your information to see how much you owe right now.

is it that simple?? Cna they just type in my social and a bill comes up?? lol

[Panzerfaust]

Technically there is no law, but they do have all the guns and will defaintely force you to pay. So I suggest you pay taxes!

[BodyByAAS]

No I mean the accountant. i actually want to pay it off... i miss beign able to sleep at night without having debt...now im bubbling at the surface gasping for air

[Logan13]

not really.. the w-2's had to be only a few grand at MAX...even the 1099 income was only a few k.. i think im covered wuth the 3k for perosnal deduction and the 8k so worst i could owe is the 10%..i probably broke even..im just scared sicne I didnt file at all..

I dunno if its better just to start filing and see if they catch up..or call and apologize and try to fix it you know?

with a 1099, you can always assert your itemized deductions incurred while making that money as it is not pure income. If it were me, I would not screw with it. The IRS will only go back 3 years with personal income. If you did your taxes right with this back income, it would probably be a wash........

[BodyByAAS]

yeah well.. I have NEVER filed...

[Logan13]

yeah well.. I have NEVER filed...

many 18-23 YO's do not file.

[BodyByAAS]

really?? hmmm.. yeah, i guess they probably dont give a shit about the few pennies I owe... they are chasing 30-40 year olds stuffing 70-110k a year in their pockets.

[SMCengineer]

Muriloninja is right. Their is no actual law that requires you to pay federal income tax.

[Logan13]

Muriloninja is right. Their is no actual law that requires you to pay federal income tax.

do you know how many people are sitting in Fed. prison with this same thought? Problem is, none of them seem to have read the 16th amendment of the US Constitution (ratified 1913):
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

I hate paying thousands in every April, but to not do so because you think it against the law is unfounded and dumb.

[DSM4Life]

Technically there is no law, but they do have all the guns and will defaintely force you to pay. So I suggest you pay taxes!

Was this a joke

[Panzerfaust]

do you know how many people are sitting in Fed. prison with this same thought? Problem is, none of them seem to have read the 16th amendment of the US Constitution (ratified 1913):
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

I hate paying thousands in every April, but to not do so because you think it against the law is unfounded and dumb.

Do some ****ing research, the ammendmant was not ratified properly. I like how former IRS agents and the commisioner himself cannot state the law, but you can. umm.ok

I swear someone has taken over your account, or you are high.

YES, there are people in jail. They will force you to pay the tax whether you like it or not, its a simple authoritarian approach. Nothing more, nothing less.

[BodyByAAS]

Do some ****ing research, the ammendmant was not ratified properly. I like how former IRS agents and the commisioner himself cannot state the law, but you can. umm.ok

I swear someone has taken over your account, or you are high.

YES, there are people in jail. They will force you to pay the tax whether you like it or not, its a simple authoritarian approach. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Panzerfaust]

Nah, not really but it was not properly ratified! But you better believe I will file my taxes, because make no mistake about it, they will come after you.

[timtim]

Do some ****ing research, the ammendmant was not ratified properly. I like how former IRS agents and the commisioner himself cannot state the law, but you can. umm.ok

I swear someone has taken over your account, or you are high.

YES, there are people in jail. They will force you to pay the tax whether you like it or not, its a simple authoritarian approach. Nothing more, nothing less.

my brothers old roommate worked as an auditor for the IRS for a long time and now he is a higher up. we had the exact conversation you just posted a few times and you are right about the amendment. they still get you either way but you are right.

[Panzerfaust]

my brothers old roommate worked as an auditor for the IRS for a long time and now he is a higher up. we had the exact conversation you just posted a few times and you are right about the amendment. they still get you either way but you are right.

If asked, the IRS will not give an answer, for if they do the American people will know there is no law.

So the Supreme Court has now ruled that the gov't does not have to answer the questions of the people even though it violates the U.S. Constitution by doing so.

[SMCengineer]

do you know how many people are sitting in Fed. prison with this same thought?.

I don't, but I know the number is high.

Problem is, none of them seem to have read the 16th amendment of the US Constitution (ratified 1913):
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.".

Good point, however, the supreme court ruled in 1920 that income is not wages, but it's gains from corporate activity. Your labor and wages are your private property. I don't see that in the ammendment. Therefore, a direct unapportioned tax on labor and wages is illegal stated by the constitution.

Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 207, 40 S.Ct. 189, 9 A.L.R. 1570 (1920):
“…Whatever difficulty there may be about a precise scientific definition of ‘income,’ it imports, as used here, something entirely distinct from principal or capital either as a subject of taxation or as a measure of the tax; conveying rather the idea of gain or increase arising from corporate activities.”

The following supreme court ruling solidifies these claims.
Stanton v. Baltic Mining Co., 240 US 103 (1916)
"...by the previous ruling, it was settled that the provisions of the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation but simply prohibited the previous complete and plenary power of income taxation possessed by Congress from the beginning from being taken out of the category of INDIRECT taxation to which it inherently belonged.."

However, the IRS code, which is a law, is different. Title 26 states:
"There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of every individual . . . who is not a married individual a tax determined in accordance with the following table:"
As you can see their is still use of the word income so I'm sure this could be debated on whether or not taxes on your wages are legal. Don't interpret this as me telling you not to pay your taxes. I'm just giving you something to think about. It's basically just an interpertation of the law.

I hate paying thousands in every April, but to not do so because you think it against the law is unfounded and dumb.

To not question the law is unfounded and dumb.

[Psychotron]

Do some ****ing research, the ammendmant was not ratified properly. I like how former IRS agents and the commisioner himself cannot state the law, but you can. umm.ok

I swear someone has taken over your account, or you are high.

YES, there are people in jail. They will force you to pay the tax whether you like it or not, its a simple authoritarian approach. Nothing more, nothing less.

It was still rattified, it still exists and still says you pay taxes. Whether it was done correctly or not doesnt matter, the tax law exists.

In response, Congress proposed the Sixteenth Amendment (ratified by the requisite number of states in 1913), which states:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Though I am sure your argument is going to come from the fact that congress doesnt collect taxes, but rather the tax is imposed by the Federal Reserves (and yes I understand this isnt really a government agency, but neither if the FCC), which was appointed by congress to handle it, since they are the ones we owe the money too.

In any sense of it, we still need to be paying taxes, things dont happen in this country without the citizens money. Though, I must agree with Ron Paul in that doing away with our debt to the Federal Reserves(or the group all togethor) would be in our best interest. We are never going to pay that back, our money could be put to better use, or just less taxes.

[Pooks]

If you only owed a thousand dollars here and there.. than....

than u more than likely don't owe the IRS NOTHING!

but any refund that u might had coming your way, u pretty much forfeit if u dont file on time.

[Logan13]

I am very familiar with the ratification that you guys keep sighting. The fact of the matter is that the 16th amendment to the Constitution is very real. I pay much more taxes than the average person does, believe me. I am no IRS cronie, nor do I want to be the apologist for them in here, nor do I enjoy sending my hard-earned money to them every April. But the fact is that many, many Americans have attempted to fight this in court. You must all know where that got them.........

[firmechicano831]

you can run but you cant hide. They charge about 10% interest minimum.

[Zelos]

In France , if you "missed" taxes , they charge you about 20% , plus penalties.
Also if they catch you 1 time, it's finished for 10years
You have to declare every cents you earn , or they will charge you ....

[foskaminkk]

mm america, in alot of country they take your take straight out of your cheque, its alot easier

[almostgone]

Sorry Pooks, but you have up to 36 months to file if you are receiving a refund. This info can be found by calling the IRS automated tax info or by talking to an IRS representative during regular business hours.

AG

If you only owed a thousand dollars here and there.. than....

than u more than likely don't owe the IRS NOTHING!

but any refund that u might had coming your way, u pretty much forfeit if u dont file on time.