Botox responsible for deaths

**longhorn814** · 01-25-2008, 08:41 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080125/...gan_botox_dc_7

Botox is responsible for killing people and is perfectly legal, however AAS is the most dangerous drug on the planet at this time..what a fukked up country we live in!

**gixxerboy1** · 01-25-2008, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080125/...gan_botox_dc_7

Botox is responsible for killing people and is perfectly legal, however AAS is the most dangerous drug on the planet at this time..what a fukked up country we live in!

so do tylenol. Botox is just a sexier story

**longhorn814** · 01-25-2008, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

so do tylenol. Botox is just a sexier story

at least tylenol has medical uses..botox is strictly for cosmetic purposes

**gixxerboy1** · 01-25-2008, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

at least tylenol has medical uses..botox is strictly for cosmetic purposes

True. But i think with any med or surgery cosmetic or not there are gonig to be some deaths or adverse reactions. Thats just the norm. I saw the story last night to. I didnt think it was a big deal the percentage of people were pretty low.

**jbmd1111** · 07-21-2008, 03:08 PM

I beg to differ. While Botox is more well know in the popular press for its cosmetic applications, it started out as and still is frequently used for therapeutic purposes (some of which are quite debilitating). Never the less, the furor about Botox killing people is a tempest in a teapot. Normal therapeutic doses of Botox have a very localized effect. General effects usually result from EXTREME overdosing.

For example, most cosmetic applications will use between 30 and 100 Units. Therapeutic doses (for severe chronic muscle spasm etc...) can approach 1000 Units. Some children with CP can end up getting 2 or 3 thousand units to help relieve the chronic flexor spasm they must endure.

I believe the popularly circulated story of death following cosmetic Botox actually occurred as a result of someone obtaining and illegally importing "research grade" Botox at a strength 1000 times the normal cosmetic preparation. Either he did not realize this and/or made a mistake in his math, overdosing himself and his patients with 100-1000 times the normal dose.

Despite what the press may have us believe, there is a wide margin of error when it comes to cosmetic (and to a lesser extent) therapeutic Botox.

**Lemonada8** · 07-21-2008, 07:49 PM

hell playin w/ botox is a damn dangerous thing anyways... if ya know the original purpose of it... if it gets int eh blood stream ur fvcked!

**RuhlFreak55** · 07-21-2008, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by jbmd1111

I beg to differ. While Botox is more well know in the popular press for its cosmetic applications, it started out as and still is frequently used for therapeutic purposes (some of which are quite debilitating). Never the less, the furor about Botox killing people is a tempest in a teapot. Normal therapeutic doses of Botox have a very localized effect. General effects usually result from EXTREME overdosing.

For example, most cosmetic applications will use between 30 and 100 Units. Therapeutic doses (for severe chronic muscle spasm etc...) can approach 1000 Units. Some children with CP can end up getting 2 or 3 thousand units to help relieve the chronic flexor spasm they must endure.

I believe the popularly circulated story of death following cosmetic Botox actually occurred as a result of someone obtaining and illegally importing "research grade" Botox at a strength 1000 times the normal cosmetic preparation. Either he did not realize this and/or made a mistake in his math, overdosing himself and his patients with 100-1000 times the normal dose.

Despite what the press may have us believe, there is a wide margin of error when it comes to cosmetic (and to a lesser extent) therapeutic Botox.

exactly right......which is why i own stock in allergen and medicis

**N*E*R*D** · 07-21-2008, 09:40 PM

If you stuck botox in your hard on would it be better than viagra?

Mmm if you know the answer im gonna rip you for knowing. j/k j/k

**Kratos** · 07-21-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by jokers99

If you stuck botox in your hard on would it be better than viagra?

Mmm if you know the answer im gonna rip you for knowing. j/k j/k

I'm guessing it would prevent parasympathetic relaxation of penile smooth muscle thus breaking your weiner for a long time (until the botox wears off).

It may have clinical applications with bladder (pissing too much) and BPH though.

**Lemonada8** · 07-22-2008, 06:11 AM

you would have to inject it into that smooth muscle... if u shot the shaft, it wouldnt do anything cause thats just spongy something, which is filled w/ blood, so it would get iun ur blood streem and then prolly kill u.....

**Nicotine** · 07-22-2008, 07:16 AM

does this mean i should stop injecting it into my ballsack?

**Kratos** · 07-22-2008, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

you would have to inject it into that smooth muscle... if u shot the shaft, it wouldnt do anything cause thats just spongy something, which is filled w/ blood, so it would get iun ur blood streem and then prolly kill u.....

I'm pretty sure you can have a near miss of the smooth muscle and still have some serioius ed. Wanna voulenteer? I'll put up $100 bucks if you take one for the team in the name of science so we can get to the bottom of this.

if you're looking for something stronger than viagra papaverine injected in the penis. I think you can become dependant though.

**jbmd1111** · 07-24-2008, 02:42 PM

Studies have shown that, in subcutaneous applications, Botox will diffuse about 1cm from the injection point (although the maximal effect will be at the center).

Injecting it into a penis would likely be a waste!