Probationary Period

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 11:11 AM

A realitive of mine just started a job as a police officer. He is on probationary untill jan of next year and heading to the acadmey in july for 24 months. He asked me if i think it would be ok for him to do a 10 cycle before he goes, he's afraid he might get tested.
My response: I told him to do some fast acting compounds so if they would happen to test you it would be out of your system quick. I also told him as long as he keeps his cool and dosen't gain 30 pounds he should be ok.

Anyone have advice i can add or a different opinion?

**goodcents** · 02-01-2008, 11:29 AM

He should give up steriods if he wants to be a cop. Start going to more donut shops too

he needs to fit in

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by goodcents

He should give up steriods if he wants to be a cop. Start going to more donut shops too

he needs to fit in

lol, Seriously any other advice.

**Kingweb50** · 02-01-2008, 11:42 AM

My buddy graduated a few months ago from the acadamy and for the first 3 weeks of the acadamy he was finishing up a cycle and he was fine he gained about 5 pounds during those 3 weeks and they didnt say anything. He was using prop and tren ace so it was out a few days after he started.

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kingweb50

My buddy graduated a few months ago from the acadamy and for the first 3 weeks of the acadamy he was finishing up a cycle and he was fine he gained about 5 pounds during those 3 weeks and they didnt say anything. He was using prop and tren ace so it was out a few days after he started.

Did they give him any problems leading up to the academy? and has he taken anything since then?

**Kingweb50** · 02-01-2008, 11:53 AM

No he started it the day after he had his physical and finished while he was already in the acadamy and he hasnt done anything since but is planning a new cycle for the summer.

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Kingweb50

No he started it the day after he had his physical and finished while he was already in the acadamy and he hasnt done anything since but is planning a new cycle for the summer.

So how much did he gain during that cycle? Any of the guys on the force hassel or question him?

**Kingweb50** · 02-01-2008, 12:00 PM

In terms of weight I think he only gained like 5 pounds but dropped a few percent of bf. No he was big already in the interview process so noone questioned him and he passed the lie detecter test about them so he was fine. When he got to his unit people made jokes about him juicing during the acadamy but the were just busting his balls.

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kingweb50

In terms of weight I think he only gained like 5 pounds but dropped a few percent of bf. No he was big already in the interview process so noone questioned him and he passed the lie detecter test about them so he was fine. When he got to his unit people made jokes about him juicing during the acadamy but the were just busting his balls.

Your help is greatly appreciated! He passed the lie detector test while he was on? How in the hell did he do that?

**admirals56** · 02-01-2008, 12:05 PM

is it true that u can pass the test by putting a tac in your shoe and when they ask u is this ur name and u step on the tac and say yes and when they ask if u use steroids u dont step on it and no so it is even? anybody no anything about this thanx?

**Kingweb50** · 02-01-2008, 12:05 PM

No he wasnt on then he had done one cycle before about a year before he took the test

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by admirals56

is it true that u can pass the test by putting a tac in your shoe and when they ask u is this ur name and u step on the tac and say yes and when they ask if u use steroids u dont step on it and yes no so it is even? anybody no anything about this thanx?

never heard about this....sounds a little risky

**novastepp** · 02-01-2008, 12:19 PM

i'd give em up. simply ask him to write down the 5 most important things in his life. and then ask him that if he gets busted for roids in the academy if he will lose those and if he is willing to. personally, i would stop. just eat more, and suck it up for a while.

**wantmoremass** · 02-01-2008, 12:22 PM

if becoming an officer is important, he should just not cycle until after his probationary period. what's 12 more months to ensure that he gets what he really wants?

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by wantmoremass

if becoming an officer is important, he should just not cycle until after his probationary period. what's 12 more months to ensure that he gets what he really wants?

Do you think their more opt to test him during the probationary period?

**wantmoremass** · 02-01-2008, 01:24 PM

the thing about a probationary period is there is usually the possibility to be dismissed without reason, recourse, or compensation. my guess is they'd be more likely to test for sure during a probationary period. this is 'best behavior' time.

**sooners04** · 02-01-2008, 01:27 PM

99% they WONT test for AAS.

**Red Ketchup** · 02-01-2008, 03:06 PM

Well, I'm not a cop but I can give you a parallel...

In the fire dept, our rookies have a 1 year probation period when they come in. In that period they can be fired with cause, and there is little the union can do to protect them.

When the rookies come in, we usually suggest that they keep their nose clean and stay out of trouble (and that includes juicing).

Has our dept ever tested for juice? Nope, do they polygraph? Almost never. Do they check for rec-drugs? Always... Can they check for more in the future? Yup, and with the current media fueled steroid witch-hunt I would not be surprised to see random testing of rookies in the future.

Even if he's 99% sure there won't be any tests or poly's for juice, why take a chance at ruining what is probably his dream carreer? Probation isn't that long!

Just my 2 cents...

Red

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Red Ketchup

Well, I'm not a cop but I can give you a parallel...

In the fire dept, our rookies have a 1 year probation period when they come in. In that period they can be fired with cause, and there is little the union can do to protect them.

When the rookies come in, we usually suggest that they keep their nose clean and stay out of trouble (and that includes juicing).

Has our dept ever tested for juice? Nope, do they polygraph? Almost never. Do they check for rec-drugs? Always... Can they check for more in the future? Yup, and with the current media fueled steroid witch-hunt I would not be surprised to see random testing of rookies in the future.

Even if he's 99% sure there won't be any tests or poly's for juice, why take a chance at ruining what is probably his dream carreer? Probation isn't that long!

Just my 2 cents...

Red

Good Advice, but it's easier said then done.

**Kale** · 02-01-2008, 10:02 PM

Does he know steroids are against the law ?

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Does he know steroids are against the law ?

Yes he does.

**Kale** · 02-01-2008, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by skr0w

Yes he does.

Great way to start a job that is supposed to uphold the law. Just goes to prove that most cops are hypocrites IMO

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Great way to start a job that is supposed to uphold the law. Just goes to prove that most cops are hypocrites IMO

It's probally not the best way to start a new career, but juice should really not be illegal. It's nothing compared to all the deaths alcohol and smoking cause every year.

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by skr0w

It's probally not the best way to start a new career, but juice should really not be illegal. It's nothing compared to all the deaths alcohol and smoking cause every year.

I apologize for getting off the subject. My buddy told me something pretty funny he said it will help him do his job better and give him more confidence.

**dhriscerr** · 02-01-2008, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Great way to start a job that is supposed to uphold the law. Just goes to prove that most cops are hypocrites IMO

I was going to be a cop, but decided I liked steroids to much, and one of the questions on the highway patrol that automatically fails your have you done a drug besides Maj@#$@# in the last 10 years (including Anabolic Steroids) that was enough to make me decide to get my degree in Accounting instead. My question is this now? How can he bust anyone for speeding or any other small infraction without feeling tons of guilt? The law is the law. Im all about juice, but I'll accept my punishment knowing that it is illegal. I wanted to juice for 3 years in the Marines, but wasn't about to get a dishonorable or lose the GI Bill because of someone ratting me out. So I waited. My advice is decide what is more important. Sometimes life doesn't afford you every option you want, you have to choose.

**skr0w** · 02-01-2008, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

I was going to be a cop, but decided I liked steroids to much, and one of the questions on the highway patrol that automatically fails your have you done a drug besides Maj@#$@# in the last 10 years (including Anabolic Steroids) that was enough to make me decide to get my degree in Accounting instead. My question is this now? How can he bust anyone for speeding or any other small infraction without feeling tons of guilt? The law is the law. Im all about juice, but I'll accept my punishment knowing that it is illegal. I wanted to juice for 3 years in the Marines, but wasn't about to get a dishonorable or lose the GI Bill because of someone ratting me out. So I waited. My advice is decide what is more important. Sometimes life doesn't afford you every option you want, you have to choose.

I hear you it sucks that he can't do both. Does anyone on here know police officers now that are on gear? Just wondering how they feel about the whole thing.

**dhriscerr** · 02-01-2008, 11:06 PM

I know a certain member on this forum that has stopped doing all AAS because he is choosing to be a cop and won't do anymore unless he does not end up going into the acadamy or finishing it.

**bigt10** · 02-02-2008, 12:43 AM

lol well i doubt they would test for that atleast not in canada where you can legally use it but your in the usa correct?

and there is DEFINATELY some cops that juice out there that is no doubt. same as some fireman, not only are their jobs hard as hell but this is a job where a bigger muscular guy who may not be the most intelligent or have gone to university for many years can get himself a well paying job.

ive seen some cops that are huge. lol last week i saw this one he must have been 6'3-6'5 and wide as hell. his legs musta been like 35 inches. and this guy was big and jacked. my gosh his back was wide. this is one dude you would not mess with.

**skr0w** · 02-02-2008, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

I know a certain member on this forum that has stopped doing all AAS because he is choosing to be a cop and won't do anymore unless he does not end up going into the acadamy or finishing it.

Do you mean he stopped for good or until he finishes the academy?

**skr0w** · 02-02-2008, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by bigt10

lol well i doubt they would test for that atleast not in canada where you can legally use it but your in the usa correct?

and there is DEFINATELY some cops that juice out there that is no doubt. same as some fireman, not only are their jobs hard as hell but this is a job where a bigger muscular guy who may not be the most intelligent or have gone to university for many years can get himself a well paying job.

ive seen some cops that are huge. lol last week i saw this one he must have been 6'3-6'5 and wide as hell. his legs musta been like 35 inches. and this guy was big and jacked. my gosh his back was wide. this is one dude you would not mess with.

I hear you. I know juice is more in the public spotlight now then when ronnie coleman was a cop and was juicing out his ass. Back then it was probally a little easier to get away with.

Another problem my buddy is worried about is. Lets just say he's doing his job just like everyone else no issues, a great cop but looks like a monster. He's afraid they might just want to test him becuase he is big. My advice is as long as your not raging, tasing everyone you arrest, and basically doing your job and keeping it quite you'll be fine.

**Ajc330** · 02-02-2008, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Great way to start a job that is supposed to uphold the law. Just goes to prove that most cops are hypocrites IMO

amen, garuntee half the police force gets high too as well as politicians people in congress etc

**Ajc330** · 02-02-2008, 07:45 AM

hey if you're a cop and you wanna juice, fine, then don't be nailing citizens for having juice, and if you're a cop and like to smoke mary j, so be it, but don't be bashing no kids if you find it on them

and most of all, if you are a cop and you want to fvckin speed, you best better not be pulling me the fvck over for going 10 mph over the speed limit or doing a rolling stop at a stop sign when your hyppocritical ass runs that stop sign every time

**skr0w** · 02-02-2008, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ajc330

hey if you're a cop and you wanna juice, fine, then don't be nailing citizens for having juice, and if you're a cop and like to smoke mary j, so be it, but don't be bashing no kids if you find it on them

and most of all, if you are a cop and you want to fvckin speed, you best better not be pulling me the fvck over for going 10 mph over the speed limit or doing a rolling stop at a stop sign when your hyppocritical ass runs that stop sign every time

Good post.

**Kennedy** · 02-03-2008, 08:38 PM

If I were a PO and it came down to abiding the law or having the edge over someone who wants to kill me I will take the last choice.

**skr0w** · 02-04-2008, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kennedy

If I were a PO and it came down to abiding the law or having the edge over someone who wants to kill me I will take the last choice.

It's funny were talking about someone being a po and taking juice. In the new Muscular Development there is a woman (forgot her name) that competed in the mrs. olymipia and guess what she does for a living??.... she's a police officer. She also has 18 inch guns shredded. I wonder if they ever thought about testing her at her job???

**Doc M** · 02-04-2008, 12:00 PM

I think that being on 'probation' and trying to start a new career in law enforcement while worrying about doing juice is a poor display of decision making and maturity. If he wants to get in that line of work, why would he risk everything for a stupid cycle. I just don't get it. If even by a remote chance he does get tested and caught, his chances of EVER being in law enforcement or any line of work that involves public trust, security clearances, taking an oath, is effectively over forever. Is it really worth it?

Just my opinion- Doc M

**taiboxa** · 02-04-2008, 12:12 PM

the funny thing is my friend makes almost all his sales to the local Police lol

"Hey ur not gonna arrest me if your gear is fake are you?"

**skr0w** · 02-04-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Doc M

I think that being on 'probation' and trying to start a new career in law enforcement while worrying about doing juice is a poor display of decision making and maturity. If he wants to get in that line of work, why would he risk everything for a stupid cycle. I just don't get it. If even by a remote chance he does get tested and caught, his chances of EVER being in law enforcement or any line of work that involves public trust, security clearances, taking an oath, is effectively over forever. Is it really worth it?

Just my opinion- Doc M

My thing is why would they give him a random steroid test out of the blue if he's doing everything hes supposed to and laying low? I think if they give him a test it should just be a basic one testing for street drugs like weed, coke, heroin ect..right?

**crash187ct** · 02-20-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

I was going to be a cop, but decided I liked steroids to much, and one of the questions on the highway patrol that automatically fails your have you done a drug besides Maj@#$@# in the last 10 years (including Anabolic Steroids) that was enough to make me decide to get my degree in Accounting instead. My question is this now? How can he bust anyone for speeding or any other small infraction without feeling tons of guilt? The law is the law. Im all about juice, but I'll accept my punishment knowing that it is illegal. I wanted to juice for 3 years in the Marines, but wasn't about to get a dishonorable or lose the GI Bill because of someone ratting me out. So I waited. My advice is decide what is more important. Sometimes life doesn't afford you every option you want, you have to choose.

wow, i was in the same situation with the hp. i thought about going in, but liked steroids . can't win with both, and didn't want to try personally. i can still get in, if i don't take anything for 7 years. yeah, ****ing, right.

**crash187ct** · 02-20-2008, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Doc M

I think that being on 'probation' and trying to start a new career in law enforcement while worrying about doing juice is a poor display of decision making and maturity. If he wants to get in that line of work, why would he risk everything for a stupid cycle. I just don't get it. If even by a remote chance he does get tested and caught, his chances of EVER being in law enforcement or any line of work that involves public trust, security clearances, taking an oath, is effectively over forever. Is it really worth it?

Just my opinion- Doc M

well said