Are Steroids A Sin?

[cslade305]

This is a question I posted in a forum on the Vatin, but the topic there was more on the Vatican vs Science. I thought it was worth putting it out there by itself. I have been pondering this question as I pin myself - Is the use of steroids a sin? And if so how does one who has a faith make the justification?

[Atomini]

How the fvck is it a sin?

It's as much of a sin as taking Vitamin C is a sin. It depends how you're using it.

[*El Diablo*]

There is a difference between Using and Abusing. And no i dont think that USING sauce is a sin.

[cslade305]

I'm not saying it is a sin, but I'm sure some people or organized relion might think differently. While I have a faith, I choose to believe, that despite they are illegal in a lot of places (mans choice not God's) that abuse of them would be a sin. I'm just curious what others with or without a faith think on the subject.

[RA]

Its a sin to abuse your body. As stated above there is a line between use and abuse of steroids so I would say use alone isnt a sin.

[ChuckLee]

Ask Kale for religious questions...

[rockinred]

Its a sin to abuse your body. As stated above there is a line between use and abuse of steroids so I would say use alone isnt a sin.

diddo what roid said....

[BITTAPART2]

youd have to believe in sin first of all. my personal definition of a sin is secular and related to people causing harm to others. man some people have done a good job at scaring peoples money into the offering plate

[rockinred]

Ask Kale for religious questions...

why? He has an opinion like everyone else.

[*El Diablo*]

But Kale is ALOT older than us!... lol. :-) Which makes him wizer. Kale Wise-Ass

[*El Diablo*]

youd have to believe in sin first of all. my personal definition of a sin is secular and related to people causing harm to others. man some people have done a good job at scaring peoples money into the offering plate

Good point Dawg!. Im jewish but stand with you!

[ChuckLee]

Because of this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=330249
lol

[ecto9]

To some it would be called a sin. To others it would not. What do you esteem it to be, it shall be for you.

[RA]

I think it was a legitimate question for people of faith.

youd have to believe in sin first of all. my personal definition of a sin is secular and related to people causing harm to others. man some people have done a good job at scaring peoples money into the offering plate

[cslade305]

To some it would be called a sin. To others it would not. What do you esteem it to be, it shall be for you.

You pose an interesting point. The legality of it I guess is a stumping point for me. Of course man made them illegal not God and I agree that abuse of anything in regards to ones body could be considered a sin. There are things illegal though that most would consider as a sin, so where is the line drawn?

[ChuckLee]

I think it was a legitimate question for people of faith.

Well, in this case I don't think juicing should be a sin.

CL

[soulstealer]

You pose an interesting point. The legality of it I guess is a stumping point for me. Of course man made them illegal not God and I agree that abuse of anything in regards to ones body could be considered a sin. There are things illegal though that most would consider as a sin, so where is the line drawn?

I personally dont believe... but I think if you truely want to find out if its a sin you must look at a couple things first of all as I understand it the law of man has nothing to do with the law of "god" so just forget about that.... so it really comes down to intentions... and your intentions for its use must not conflict with what is or isnt considered a sin.... In other words is it for vanity? kind of a thing... and in this instance the contemplation of the true existence of sin or believe has nothing to do with the issue as you have predetermined to work within those guidelines...

[cslade305]

Another good point. While vanity was not part of my original intention, I must say as I am getting bigger it probably does come into play. Most body builders I see at the gym do enjoy gazing at themselves.

[ecto9]

I liken myself to be an artist of sorts, and anabolics are just one of the tools I use to sculpt my body into a work of art!

[BabyGravy]

Im sure God would be pleased to know that you are looking after the body he gave you and using the talents he gave he. if you enjoy gyming, that must be because he made you that way???? Who knows who Samson was? (from the bible)

[Dangercat00]

Im sure God would be pleased to know that you are looking after the body he gave you and using the talents he gave he. if you enjoy gyming, that must be because he made you that way???? Who knows who Samson was? (from the bible)

I'm on the same page as you...

...although Samson didn't take roids.

[Tock]

There is no such thing as "Sin." So no, taking steroids is not a sin.

[soccer#3]

it was supposed to be the 11th commandment but it didnt make the stone blocks somehow. it was supposed to say "thou shall not use anabolic/androgenic steroids u meatheads"

[IronReload04]

guys...dont kid yourselves....if you have the faith, it most definately is a sin. In order for steroids to work, you have to take them in such a way that you are not using moderation.....10-12 weeks is not moderation.......YOu are altering your bodies chemistry, possibly doing some harm, possible damage in normal signaling pathways etc etc....alot of stuff on a microbiological level....


Now this is a sin I personally am willing to commit.


another question you can ask yourself....."how much" "how bad" of a sin is it? I dont think its to bad......the positive effects I think can outweight the negative if you do them correctly.......But the fact that you probably wont be walking away 100% unscathed, makes it a sin to a degree

[IronReload04]

You pose an interesting point. The legality of it I guess is a stumping point for me. Of course man made them illegal not God and I agree that abuse of anything in regards to ones body could be considered a sin. There are things illegal though that most would consider as a sin, so where is the line drawn?

where is the line drawn is a better question...smoking is a sin....but are smokers going to hell? I dunno, I cant imagine genuinly good people who do amazing things, but smoke, are going to hell...


I think you can say the same thing for roids

[Tock]

guys...dont kid yourselves....if you have the faith, it most definately is a sin.

Just curious, but how can something be a sin to people with faith, and not a sin to people without?

[RapaciousShark]

To some it would be called a sin. To others it would not. What do you esteem it to be, it shall be for you.

i agree. The health risks of taking juice are debatable, so you can't be sure you're hurting yourself. When used properly, na you're not hurting yourself.

But why are u taking them? To compete and feed a family as a pro body builder? To perform better in a career sport? Or is it for vanity?

No matter what u do, i think that if you feel that it's wrong in some way and you do it anyway, that's when you're most likely "sinning." But, as mentioned, you'll have to define "sin"

[IronReload04]

Just curious, but how can something be a sin to people with faith, and not a sin to people without?

Because if you believe in God, and you do steroids........you are "knowingly" and "willingly" making a consious decision to break his rules.


If you do not believe in God......YOu dont have anyone to answer to but yourself



by the way.......at this point in my life....I am agnostic.....but hope God exists.....it is what it is and thats how I feel.








ps----I am prosteroids......ok, so dont get me wrong......I said in an earlier post its a rule I am willing to break providing I believe in God

[IronReload04]

Their is absolutely nothing you can do or say to convince me that God does not exist.....However, I think the probability that he exists is simply 50%.......

your heart will tell you the rest......thats my opiniion

[Kale]

This is a question I posted in a forum on the Vatin, but the topic there was more on the Vatican vs Science. I thought it was worth putting it out there by itself. I have been pondering this question as I pin myself - Is the use of steroids a sin? And if so how does one who has a faith make the justification?

to sins and religion !!!!

[soulstealer]

Listen this is silly... theres only one sure fire way to find this out.... Man just do the cycle... and if you end up burning in hell get to a computer and post about it

[cslade305]

Funny point. Of course if you bilieve in sin and you ask for forgiveness in time then you should be absolved. I appreciate everyones different point of view. It was just a topic/question that hit me and I was curious where people stood on the issue/concept.

[goodcents]

I hope so, when I get to hell I don't want any doubt why I'm there I've seen hell and it's right here on earth I've also seen heaven and it was here too....I know so since every time I hit one of these younger hot chics I just start getting religious wooooooooo jesus some times that ass is so good I yell out his name more than once.

[BB's Dad]

Sin is not relative it is very black and white. The concept of sin come from the OT and is very clear if you were to study it. The only way steroids could be a sin is if as a Christian you put it before Christ which I would think is impossible. So the answer is No.

[goodcents]

to sins and religion !!!!

Will you bring me some asian chics for me when you comeI've already helped some other chics down the path already

[goodcents]

Btw, how long could you burn in hell anyways before you would be nothing but ashes

[jaydub]

Sin is not relative it is very black and white. The concept of sin come from the OT and is very clear if you were to study it. The only way steroids could be a sin is if as a Christian you put it before Christ which I would think is impossible. So the answer is No.

good post. sin is not a point of view. God is not asking for oppinions about what a sin is. tattoo's are sins, and substance abuse is a sin. when you take steroids you are injecting a foreign substance into your system. the bible is vague on alot of this, but based on everything else, I'd say...... yup, it's a sin. but ya won't go to hell for it. just say you're sorry after each injection, and you'll be good to go

[BB's Dad]

There is no such thing as little or big sin. That is a concept of the church. All sin must be paid for. Sin is clear defined in the Word of God. The OT consists of sins and the price that must be paid which is in blood. No sin against tattoos, drinking, smoking and many more brought to us by the interpretation from the Church.

[soulstealer]

Funny point. Of course if you bilieve in sin and you ask for forgiveness in time then you should be absolved. I appreciate everyones different point of view. It was just a topic/question that hit me and I was curious where people stood on the issue/concept.

Pshhhh man... so if your so worried just go to confession ED and inject in the rectory bathroom right before.... "I'm sorry father for I have sinned I have injected anabolic steroids" "Goddamnit cslade305 you've been repenting every day for 6 years" LOL

[xero]

There is no such thing as "Sin." So no, taking steroids is not a sin.

I am with you on this Tock.

There is nothing of substance against which we can consistently measure what or what is not sinful. Christians would have you believe the bible is the measure...but thats just an opinion, not fact. Societies create their own laws to suite their own views as to what is a sin...just circumstancial opinion, not fact.

Only one way to to find out if its a sin...die... if their is a god and a judgment day, then you'll know.