Barack Obama's Pastor: Not "God Bless America" but "God damn America." **VID**

**Rotary** · 03-13-2008, 07:24 PM

Between this and Barack Obama's wife's hate speach on whites. I dunno.

Make sure you watch this video. http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230

Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

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Is Obama's Pastor a Liability?The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

**Panzerfaust** · 03-13-2008, 07:36 PM

Probably get more "white" votes from this just because they feel guilty.

**xero** · 03-14-2008, 03:18 PM

You can tell that Obama is making an impact as a serious contender by he amount of crap conservatives a digging up.

Signs of panic?

**zartan** · 03-14-2008, 03:57 PM

u got a link to the video of his wife?

**Rotary** · 03-14-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by xero

You can tell that Obama is making an impact as a serious contender by he amount of crap conservatives a digging up.

Signs of panic?

Conservatives don't need to dig anything up, Hillary's staff is.

We're just sitting back and watching the mayhem.

**scriptfactory** · 03-14-2008, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by zartan

u got a link to the video of his wife?

**SMCengineer** · 03-14-2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by xero

You can tell that Obama is making an impact as a serious contender by he amount of crap conservatives a digging up.

Signs of panic?

As Rotary said, it's not conservatives, it's Hillary's campaign that digs this stuff up.

**green22** · 03-15-2008, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rotary

Conservatives don't need to dig anything up, Hillary's staff is.

We're just sitting back and watching the mayhem.

Aint that the damn truth......She is so desperate that she is now hurting the democratic party. She is just trying to bring him down, She is starting to look like a real BITCH too... Obama still has my vote.

**convalescence69** · 03-18-2008, 03:38 PM

America is fuk'ed up, and americans don't like to hear that sh*t, so naturally Barackus Obamer is gonna distance himself from his pastors comments, regardless if they are true or not. It would be political suicide for him if he agreed that America is inciting hatred around the world, which it damn right is.
"a lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes"

**Fat Guy** · 03-18-2008, 04:25 PM

He has my vote even more now…

**firmechicano831** · 03-18-2008, 05:52 PM

Who cares what he spoke, I still want Clinton to loose.

**Rotary** · 03-20-2008, 04:51 PM

What's that you say, Barack ?

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law, and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No, no, no. Not God Bless America, God damn America, that's in the Bible, for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating us citizens as less than human.

We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians, and black South Africans. And now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.

. . .and cares what I'm going through, who cares about what poor people have to put up with, who cares about what a poor, black man has to face every day in a country and a culture controlled by rich, white people. Somebody missed that. You got nervous, because we've got some white members here. I'm still in Bible country. I'm still in the text. Jesus was a poor, black man who lived in a country, and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich, white people. The Romans were rich, the Romans were Italians, which means they were European, which means they were white, and the Romans ran everything in Jesus' country.

When Moses finally escaped the Egyptians, he turned to God and asked, "There could surely be no one as bad at those people?" God said to Moses, "Yes there are. Beware the honkeys. Beware the crackers. Especially beware the Jews. I hate all those people. Frankly, if you blow up their buildings, that's okay with me."

That wisdom speaks even more to us today as we are beset by honkeys. America is a country founded by crackers and run by Jews that exists for no other reason than to kill black people. They invented AIDS to kill us. They made crack to drug us. They use hidden ninjas to stage black on black violence. Hillary does not understand this. In fact, she's busy in her hollowed out volcano working on AIDS version two. That's why they are scared of a black man being president, because he will cut the millions of dollars that go to black genocide and instead invest that money where God says it should be: In killing honkey!

Yes, they will stop at nothing to keep the black man out of power and from his rightful job of cracker-cide. That's why they spread the rumors about Obama. They say he's inexperienced and he'll be a disaster. That's not an argument against him, because America deserves a disaster! So they try to say he's secretly a Muslim. Again, that's not an argument against him, because maybe he should be a Muslim. They're doing God's work: Blowing up the honkeys and the Jews. So only reason that all those crackers oppose Obama is that they know he's going to succeed at what he promises: Killing the honkeys!

Now some tell me that we shouldn't be for killing the honkeys. We should just turn the other cheek. Who says this? That cracker Jesus! Well, answer me this: Has Jesus ever been called a [n-word]? Did anyone invent AIDS to kill Jesus? Well, maybe Jesus should not be lecturing the black man on what he should and should not be doing. As we speak, the government is working on plans to send all black people to Venus! That's right: NASA is going to send us to Venus where it is inhospitable to life and we will all die. So what does Jesus have to say about that? Nothing! God bless Jesus? No. God [expletive] Jesus! To hell with him! Throw his cracker ass out of here!

**jbonez19** · 03-20-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Rotary

What's that you say, Barack ?

c'mon man. obama didn't say those things. don't try and align him with that stuff. from an outsiders point of view he's the "sanest" choice you guys have had for a long time. don't believe the hype. seems like a genuinely good and well intentioned man. that's rare in politics, you should sieze the opportunity for a tangible change in the direction of your country. the direction for the past eight years has been less than inspirational under dubbya.

**thegodfather** · 03-20-2008, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

c'mon man. obama didn't say those things. don't try and align him with that stuff. from an outsiders point of view he's the "sanest" choice you guys have had for a long time. don't believe the hype. seems like a genuinely good and well intentioned man. that's rare in politics, you should sieze the opportunity for a tangible change in the direction of your country. the direction for the past eight years has been less than inspirational under dubbya.

Yea he didn't say those things, he only attended his church for 20 years??? I dont know about you, but if I dont agree with someones ideology, I wont listen to them for 20 minutes, let alone 20 YEARS.

**firmechicano831** · 03-21-2008, 12:27 AM

I'm not a church person but then again when I go to church I don't agree with alot of things the pastor says. Just because he mentions something doesn't mean I have the same point of views as him.

**ypatingasisburys** · 03-21-2008, 01:38 AM

Seeing what kind of company this guy holds, anyone thinking hes not on a racially motivated agenda is a fool.

**thegodfather** · 03-21-2008, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by firmechicano831

I'm not a church person but then again when I go to church I don't agree with alot of things the pastor says. Just because he mentions something doesn't mean I have the same point of views as him.

I would be hard pressed to regularly attend and listen to the kind of points of views that pastor spouted off during his sermons...Lets rehash them reallll quick...

1. The United States genetically engineered the HIV/AIDS virus to reduce the black population.

2. The citizens of the United States should repay huge reperations to blacks for slavery.

3. A seperate country should be established for African Americans.

4. African Americans should be able to have thier own police force, legal system, judges, etc. in America.

I wont sicken you with anymore of this guys nationalist socialist ideology. Research and investigate the kind of things he stands for. He is the black equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan, maybe even WORSE. That is the kind of company that Barack Obama kept for 20 years.

**Rotary** · 03-21-2008, 11:05 AM

Don't forget

They use hidden ninjas to stage black on black violence.

**Carlos_E** · 03-21-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rotary

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law, and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No, no, no. Not God Bless America, God damn America, that's in the Bible, for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating us citizens as less than human.

We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians, and black South Africans. And now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.

. . .and cares what I'm going through, who cares about what poor people have to put up with, who cares about what a poor, black man has to face every day in a country and a culture controlled by rich, white people. Somebody missed that. You got nervous, because we've got some white members here. I'm still in Bible country. I'm still in the text. Jesus was a poor, black man who lived in a country, and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich, white people. The Romans were rich, the Romans were Italians, which means they were European, which means they were white, and the Romans ran everything in Jesus' country.

When Moses finally escaped the Egyptians, he turned to God and asked, "There could surely be no one as bad at those people?" God said to Moses, "Yes there are. Beware the honkeys. Beware the crackers. Especially beware the Jews. I hate all those people. Frankly, if you blow up their buildings, that's okay with me."

That wisdom speaks even more to us today as we are beset by honkeys. America is a country founded by crackers and run by Jews that exists for no other reason than to kill black people. They invented AIDS to kill us. They made crack to drug us. They use hidden ninjas to stage black on black violence. Hillary does not understand this. In fact, she's busy in her hollowed out volcano working on AIDS version two. That's why they are scared of a black man being president, because he will cut the millions of dollars that go to black genocide and instead invest that money where God says it should be: In killing honkey!

Yes, they will stop at nothing to keep the black man out of power and from his rightful job of cracker-cide. That's why they spread the rumors about Obama. They say he's inexperienced and he'll be a disaster. That's not an argument against him, because America deserves a disaster! So they try to say he's secretly a Muslim. Again, that's not an argument against him, because maybe he should be a Muslim. They're doing God's work: Blowing up the honkeys and the Jews. So only reason that all those crackers oppose Obama is that they know he's going to succeed at what he promises: Killing the honkeys!

Now some tell me that we shouldn't be for killing the honkeys. We should just turn the other cheek. Who says this? That cracker Jesus! Well, answer me this: Has Jesus ever been called a [n-word]? Did anyone invent AIDS to kill Jesus? Well, maybe Jesus should not be lecturing the black man on what he should and should not be doing. As we speak, the government is working on plans to send all black people to Venus! That's right: NASA is going to send us to Venus where it is inhospitable to life and we will all die. So what does Jesus have to say about that? Nothing! God bless Jesus? No. God [expletive] Jesus! To hell with him! Throw his cracker ass out of here!

Your source for these quotes? These are not Obama's words. The pastors quotes were taken out of context. His words are here:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/2...ts-911-sermon/

One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.” He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.
“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.
“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.

“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”

He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

“What is the state of your family?” he asked.

And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.
His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

“We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.

Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.
This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

**thegodfather** · 03-21-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

Well, to refute his entire paragraph. 1. AIDS medication is payed for by the government state/federal for anyone with AIDS, yes they get all of their medications provided for them. 2.The nations poor have health care coverage, it is called Medicaid/Medicare. 3. The education system is the only thing I agree with, but it needs to be change on the local/city/municipality level. Not big government controlled Federal mandates on education, that is in direct contraindictation of the Constitution of this country.

**Carlos_E** · 03-21-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by thegodfather

Well, to refute his entire paragraph. 1. AIDS medication is payed for by the government state/federal for anyone with AIDS, yes they get all of their medications provided for them. 2.The nations poor have health care coverage, it is called Medicaid/Medicare. 3. The education system is the only thing I agree with, but it needs to be change on the local/city/municipality level. Not big government controlled Federal mandates on education, that is in direct contraindictation of the Constitution of this country.

I don't agree with the guy's statements but they spun the hell out of it. They took several sermons and pieced them together to make it seem like the entire sermon was full of hate speech. Everyone is up in arms about this guy but what about Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson? These guys said the same type of hate speech blamming 9/11 and Katrina on abortion and gays. The Columbia Christians for Life group said "Hurricane Katrina satellite image looks like 6-week fetus."

Katrina and the Christian Right
How some in the Christian Right have reacted to hurricane Katrina:

From Repent America:

"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city," stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "From ‘Girls Gone Wild’ to ‘Southern Decadence’, New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. May it never be the same," he continued.

"Let us pray for and help those ravaged by this disaster. However, we must not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long," Marcavage said. "May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God," Marcavage concluded.

From J. Grant Swank, Jr:

Now New Orleans is under water, bathing in sewage and devastation rather than providing downtown fountains for homosexual capers aplenty.

As far as Repent America is concerned, divine judgment has come upon a metropolis that was bent on making its environs open to hell’s demons. Therefore, God intervened. There will be no "Southern Decadence" skipping the light fantastic. Over and out. Done. Gone. Under water.

Repent America brings the nation back to Jesus’ opening call and Peter’s declaration as this evangelical organization continues to warn souls of personal accounting at the Judgment Seat of Christ. They do so without apology. They do so at the chagrin of theological liberals. They do so at the mockery of lesbians and homosexuals who claim to be "Christian." Yet they do so, being accountable for their mission only to their biblical God.

Now the Louisiana governor has gone to the media to ask for prayers for the state and particularly for New Orleans. How very interesting that New Orleans, extending the welcome mat to sodomites, is now in need of prayer from the very God the perverts disdain.

From Columbia Christians for Life and Eve's Apple:

Satellite picture of Hurricane Katrina at NOAA.com looks like a 6-week unborn human child as it comes ashore the Gulf Coast, vicinity states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida at 12:32 PM, Monday, August 29, 2005

Hurricane "Katrina" (reportedly means "Pure" in Russian) - satellite image - Monday, 29 Aug 05, 12:32 PM (EDT) - coming ashore Gulf Coast - satellite image looks like 6-week fetus

The image of the hurricane above with its eye already ashore at 12:32 PM Monday, August 29 looks like a fetus (unborn human baby) facing to the left (west) in the womb, in the early weeks of gestation (approx. 6 weeks). Even the orange color of the image is reminiscent of a commonly used pro-life picture of early prenatal development (see sign with picture of 8-week pre-born human child below). In this picture, and in another picture in today's on-line edition of USA Today*, this hurricane looks like an unborn human child.

Louisiana has 10 child-murder-by-abortion centers - FIVE are in New Orleans
www.ldi.org ('Find an Abortion Clinic [sic]')

Baby-murder state # 1 - California (125 abortion centers) - land of earthquakes, forest fires, and mudslides
Baby-murder state # 2 - New York (78 abortion centers) - 9-11 Ground Zero
Baby-murder state # 3 - Florida (73 abortion centers) - Hurricanes Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne in 2004; and now, Hurricane Katrina in 2005

God's message: REPENT AMERICA !

Rev.Fred Phelps quotes Isaiah:

"Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupt; they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger. Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more; the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it, but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores; they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment." Isaiah 1:4-6.

The quotes above are from the people who back republicans. I don't see them denouncing and distancing themselves from them.

**Carlos_E** · 03-21-2008, 09:30 PM

Waiting for a response Rotary.

**green22** · 03-21-2008, 09:30 PM

I dont judge someone based on what others say. maybe some of ya'll do. Obama will get my vote!!

**firmechicano831** · 03-21-2008, 10:05 PM

Obama has my vote as well.

**jbonez19** · 03-21-2008, 10:36 PM

if i could vote in america he would have my vote as well. we just changed government to a man that has very similar social justice views to obama, it's the best thing to happen in our country for a long time. he finally said "sorry" to our indigenous australians and had them open our parliament for the first time. it's critical mass people, the worm has turned and there ain't no goin back. first there was Blair in england, now there's Rudd in australia and with any luck, soon there will be Obama in the U.S. sorry to all the bigots, racists and big buisness whores out there but, your time is over. and all the lying cheating and mis-representing the truth that they do won't change the fact that the world has changed, and it is a new day. go Barack.