Tips For Buying Gas

**Hollywood080** · 03-25-2008, 02:35 PM

I got this emailed to me. Don't know how true it is but I figured I would pass it on!!!!!

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon.

But my
line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we
deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.

One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and
premium grades.

We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity
of
16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
ground temperature is still cold.

Remember that all service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground.

The colder the ground the
more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying
in the afternoon or in the evening. ...your gallon is not exactly a
gallon.

In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the
temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other
petroleum products plays an important role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business.

But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode.

If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high.

You should be pumping on low speed,
thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping.

All hoses at the pump have a vapor return.

If you are pumping on the
fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor.

Those
vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so
you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY.

The reason for this is, the more gas you have in
your tank the less air occupying its empty space.

Gasoline evaporates
faster than you can imagine.

Gasoline storage tanks have an internal
floating roof.

This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and
the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.

Unlike service
stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature
compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline
is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up
some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope this will
help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it.

It
might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

We
should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia.

Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil. .............. 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans.

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
BILLION!
(Oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair................0 barrels

B P/Phillips............0 barrels

Hess.......................0 barrels

ARC0....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco. com .. , you will get a list of
the station locations near you.

**naturalsux** · 03-25-2008, 02:39 PM

good tips!

**jchopper1** · 03-25-2008, 02:41 PM

good post!

**200byjune** · 03-25-2008, 02:52 PM

nice post

**Hudson** · 03-25-2008, 02:53 PM

Hey thanks for the tips, just one question tho, when you was talking about filling up when you're down to half a tank what would be the tradeoff as far as extra fuel you would use carrying the extra weight?

Great post tho!

You can also save a lot of fuel by driving more efficiently, observing what's going on ahead of you and avoiding breaking and then speeding back up, the acceleration uses a lot of fuel. Also aerodynamics, carrying things on your roof increases drag and thus increases fuel consumption, having your window open increases drag also. Under inflated tyres also increase fuel consumption.

**Hollywood080** · 03-25-2008, 03:06 PM

as far as answering any questions go I have no idea. I was emailed this info. I just thought it was pretty good stuff and figured I would help out my bros!

Those are good tips too Hudson.

**Hudson** · 03-25-2008, 03:11 PM

Yeah sorry Hollywood, my bad, it was quite a lot of info to take in, by the time i'd read it all i'd forgot you said you'd been emailed it lol

**Amorphic** · 03-25-2008, 03:51 PM

nice tips

**novastepp** · 03-25-2008, 04:02 PM

hell i pump and run, but nice to know anyway i guess.

**novastepp** · 03-25-2008, 04:03 PM

haha and to think.. i thought you were black.

**rager** · 03-25-2008, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hollywood080

I got this emailed to me. Don't know how true it is but I figured I would pass it on!!!!!

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon.

But my
line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we
deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.

One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and
premium grades.

We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity
of
16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
ground temperature is still cold.

Remember that all service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground.

The colder the ground the
more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying
in the afternoon or in the evening. ...your gallon is not exactly a
gallon.

In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the
temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other
petroleum products plays an important role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business.

But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode.

If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high.

You should be pumping on low speed,
thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping.

All hoses at the pump have a vapor return.

If you are pumping on the
fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor.

Those
vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so
you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY.

The reason for this is, the more gas you have in
your tank the less air occupying its empty space.

Gasoline evaporates
faster than you can imagine.

Gasoline storage tanks have an internal
floating roof.

This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and
the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.

Unlike service
stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature
compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline
is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up
some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope this will
help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it.

It
might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

We
should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia.

Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil. .............. 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans.

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
BILLION!
(Oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair................0 barrels

B P/Phillips............0 barrels

Hess.......................0 barrels

ARC0....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco. com .. , you will get a list of
the station locations near you.

You notice the non importers have the sht gas

**qualityclrk1** · 03-25-2008, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hudson

Hey thanks for the tips, just one question tho, when you was talking about filling up when you're down to half a tank what would be the tradeoff as far as extra fuel you would use carrying the extra weight?

Great post tho!

You can also save a lot of fuel by driving more efficiently, observing what's going on ahead of you and avoiding breaking and then speeding back up, the acceleration uses a lot of fuel. Also aerodynamics, carrying things on your roof increases drag and thus increases fuel consumption, having your window open increases drag also. Under inflated tyres also increase fuel consumption.

The alternative to this would be your air conditioning.....which also uses gas.... not ne way to get around it and i bet they're both so minimal it wouldn't matter which you chose.

**Hudson** · 03-27-2008, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by qualityclrk1

The alternative to this would be your air conditioning.....which also uses gas.... not ne way to get around it and i bet they're both so minimal it wouldn't matter which you chose.

How much ya wanna bet dude? lol

Moderate use of air conditioning. Will the air vents keep you comfortable, particularly early morning and the evening? The impact of using air con can pump up fuel consumption by up to 11% on slower roads.

Driving around with an empty roof rack adds 10% to fuel consumption, an open window also disrupts air flow adding a further 3-6%.

So when you're driving slow open the window, when you're driving fast turn on the air con!

**zimmy** · 03-27-2008, 11:02 AM

i ride a bike to work daily... I don't care about you gas hog b@stards :P

jk good read

**qualityclrk1** · 03-28-2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Hudson

How much ya wanna bet dude? lol

Moderate use of air conditioning. Will the air vents keep you comfortable, particularly early morning and the evening? The impact of using air con can pump up fuel consumption by up to 11% on slower roads.

Driving around with an empty roof rack adds 10% to fuel consumption, an open window also disrupts air flow adding a further 3-6%.

So when you're driving slow open the window, when you're driving fast turn on the air con!

47% of statistics are made up on the spot...................

**Hudson** · 03-28-2008, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by qualityclrk1

47% of statistics are made up on the spot...................

LOL only 47%? You give me too much credit!

**tjpatrick1987** · 03-28-2008, 07:48 AM

Well they did the air conditioning over the air drag thing on myth buster and at 55 mph it was more effiecent with the air condition? but the difference was really minout....
I dont know how true some of those things in that e-mail he got....But what the hell do we got to lose i'm taking the tips and gunna live and die buy them even if it gets me an extra nickel worth of gas