Potential Heart Attack In Gym?

[wukillabee]

Hey bros, i just had the worst feeling in my life! Im 23 years old, 203 pounds, just under 6 foot in relatively good health. Ive never takin aas before but i have takin several prohormone cycles in the past 4 years. I have been training for 7 years and seriously fo the past 5. Today i ate breakfast as normal, took my normal supps after eating such as multi-v, fish oil, 5grams creatine mono, 1gram tribulus. I then waited maybe 30 minutes and then took my eca stack that ive been on for 3 weeks now of 25/200/81. FOr the last 7 days ive been taking benadryl before bed to keep receptors up from eca. The only thing i did or took different today was i took 3 rpm and 3 drive caps too. These products are some otc supps that i have at home and cant tell u guys whats in them yet since im not home yet. I then went to the gym and did 10 minutes of light cardio to warm up my legs since today was leg day. I then did 4 sets of squats and on the last 2 i felt DONE, like ive been working out for over 2 hours! I then moved to leg press thinking that the squats were too much for me today and after 1 set of leg press is when the trouble really hit! My heart was racing faster than it ever had in my life, i felt dizzy, couldnt stop sweating, dry mouth, the whole bit. I thought i was gonna black out on the spot! I dont have medical insurance so i didnt want to tell the gym to call the ambulance. I then went into the locker room and sat for 20 minutes to try to calm myself down. Its been an hour now since this started and im feeling much better but still pretty sick to my stomach. What do u guys think?

[shifty_git]

Hey bros, i just had the worst feeling in my life! Im 23 years old, 203 pounds, just under 6 foot in relatively good health. Ive never takin aas before but i have takin several prohormone cycles in the past 4 years. I have been training for 7 years and seriously fo the past 5. Today i ate breakfast as normal, took my normal supps after eating such as multi-v, fish oil, 5grams creatine mono, 1gram tribulus. I then waited maybe 30 minutes and then took my eca stack that ive been on for 3 weeks now of 25/200/81. FOr the last 7 days ive been taking benadryl before bed to keep receptors up from eca. The only thing i did or took different today was i took 3 rpm and 3 drive caps too. These products are some otc supps that i have at home and cant tell u guys whats in them yet since im not home yet. I then went to the gym and did 10 minutes of light cardio to warm up my legs since today was leg day. I then did 4 sets of squats and on the last 2 i felt DONE, like ive been working out for over 2 hours! I then moved to leg press thinking that the squats were too much for me today and after 1 set of leg press is when the trouble really hit! My heart was racing faster than it ever had in my life, i felt dizzy, couldnt stop sweating, dry mouth, the whole bit. I thought i was gonna black out on the spot! I dont have medical insurance so i didnt want to tell the gym to call the ambulance. I then went into the locker room and sat for 20 minutes to try to calm myself down. Its been an hour now since this started and im feeling much better but still pretty sick to my stomach. What do u guys think?

Check out what they have in them when ya get home.
Might be 2 much on top of the eca stack.

[tboney]

I would have to know what is in thse products before giving an opinion.

[wukillabee]

Ill be home in 30 minutes so ill let u guys know whats in them as soon as i get home. I think one is a natty test product and the other is a light fat burner. I think i took way too many stims before the gym. Im so scared i dont even want to take my eca anymore and just throw it away. It was scary guys! Thanks for the quick responses!

[Schmidty]

Ill be home in 30 minutes so ill let u guys know whats in them as soon as i get home. I think one is a natty test product and the other is a light fat burner. I think i took way too many stims before the gym. Im so scared i dont even want to take my eca anymore and just throw it away. It was scary guys! Thanks for the quick responses!

heart attcks deff hurt like a bitch... I wouldnt toss the eca, id just not use so many uppers b4u lift. If ur using eca u shouldnt really need any other stims anyway

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[wukillabee]

Perhaps it was just palpatations or something.
What ever it was its not good and id suggest dropping all the amphet based things your taking.
Your speeding your heart rate up with it, and then excercise on top you are pussing the boundry even further.
Id imagine the dizzines came from a drop in blood pressure from ur heart racing so fast all of a sudden.
Like i mentioned its not good, and the end result of stuff like this will inevitably be cardiac arrest.

Im not trying to scare you bro but if that happend to me id really consider stopping what ur taking. Trust me it only takes one heart attack.
Im no expert and am sure there are people on the board who are more competent in medical diagnosis than i am, but i dont think im too far from the mark.
I wud say the stimulants ur taking are not helping matters and id suggest stopping all together... not wanting to be scheptical or anything but ECA is a nice stack but i say its too risky.
With the reports of sudden death syndrome and all that nah ill never use it again. You only get one chance.
id rather be 18%bf and alive than risk dropping dead and being a nice 8%bf in my coffin.

Not bashing anyone taking ECA, im not interested in arguing about it bros so please dont flame me, its just the way i feel. Yeah ive done it a few times and it works like a mofo, but with such lil known facts about it and such high risks, its not for me.

I hear u man, i really am considering throwing out the rest of my eca stack, only like 5 days worth anyway. It was the scariest thing ever. I wasnt trying to take more stims since eca alone is plenty for me. My supplement friend just sent me 5 days worth of samples of this stuff. Ur supposed to take these 2 poducts together during pct to synergestically help bring up natty test. Im on my way home now and ill post in 15 minutes or so exactly what is in these 2 supps so u guys could help me out more. I really appreciate everyone's input goood or bad, thank you!

[damiongage]

my guess is you just over stimulated your cns. It sounds very much like a panic attack. I have had alot of them, and it really seams like you are going to die. I did it to myself as well, with way too much clen and t3. The issue now is....once you have one it is easy to work yourself up mentally and give them to yourself by over analyzing yourself.

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[peteroy01]

you also could have gotten dizzy because your heart was beating to fast. if it get to 150+bmp then its called Supraventricular Tachycardia. your heart is pumping fast but the chambers dont have time to fill with blood making it less efficient and supplying the brain with less blood.

[wukillabee]

Ok guys, just got outa the shower tryin to get ready for work. I stopped by rite aid on my way home to check my blood pressure. Take into consideration i was at the gym but for only like 20 minutes working out an hour and a half before checking my blood pressure and just ate a small meal 30 minutes before checking my blood pressure. My resting heart rate was 97 and my blood pressure was 143/102. I cant remember the last time i checked my blood pressure pressure so i dont have anything to compare this to. Ill be checking it everyday now while my body is rested to get an average or more accurate reading. Heres the supps:
Drive is 500mg per cap of:
lcarlin (50% extract)
forslean tm (20%)
dodder seed (20:1 cuscuta chinese)
naringin (98% extract)
cordyceps (7% cordyceptic acid)

The RPM is 500mg per cap of:
lcarlin (50%)
l-arginine
grape seed extract (98% oligometric proanthocyandins)
naringin (98% extract)
chocamine
methyl xanthine anhydrous caffeine

I was told to take 3 caps of each before workout and 3 more caps of drive later in the day with a meal. I took threeee caps of each before the gym today along with my eca stack, see post #1.

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[perfectbeast2001]

too much caffiene by the sounds of it mate. It is also posible (if i remember rightly) that the nagirin which is present in both supps increased blood levels of the caffiene and ephedrine further enhancing its effects and therefore its side effects.

[peteroy01]

SVT is 150bpm"+" , personally after a heavy set i go up to 140bpm for a short time. but with the CNS stems he was probably a lot higher making his heart less efficient. i agree with the others though. take a break from that stuff. also the vasoconstriction that ECA causes makes it even harder for your heart to push blood with partially filled chambers through your constricted veins and arteries

[wukillabee]

SVT is 150bpm"+" , personally after a heavy set i go up to 140bpm for a short time. but with the CNS stems he was probably a lot higher making his heart less efficient. i agree with the others though. take a break from that stuff. also the vasoconstriction that ECA causes makes it even harder for your heart to push blood with partially filled chambers through your constricted veins and arteries

Yeah, ima stop the eca now and just take the other 2 supps as directed. Do u guys know if clen is any safer than eca or worse sides or same? I just ordered some liquid clen a few days ago and was planning on taking it in maybe 30 days. The bottle on the site says its dosed at 200mcg per ml in 30ml bottle. With an oral syrange, how would i get say 40mcg to start? Im not the best with mesurements like this.

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[wukillabee]

Sounds good. Im taking at least a 30 day break from stims since i never want to exprience that again and it scared the shit out of me. Anyone know how i could dose my clen ? Its 200mcg per ml in a 30ml bottle. I would want to start slow at 20mcg or 40mcg but not sure what the measurement would be for these 2 doses on an oral syrange. I have a 1ml oral syrange so it does very low doses. Thanks!

[Kratos]

doesn't sound at all like a heart attack...stimulant induced unhappyness

[IronReload04]

All I know, is that I took 3 ephedrine pills one time, and after an increased heart rate and palpations, I will never take that stuff again. Might have been way to much of a dose for me at the time, but now I would be way to paranoid to take it again.

[wukillabee]

All I know, is that I took 3 ephedrine pills one time, and after an increased heart rate and palpations, I will never take that stuff again. Might have been way to much of a dose for me at the time, but now I would be way to paranoid to take it again.

Im in the same boat as u. Anyone know the answer to my post #18?

[Kratos]

Im in the same boat as u. Anyone know the answer to my post #18?

You're kidding right? 200mcg/ml is exactly that
20mcg/200mcg=1/10=1/10ml
40mcg/200mcg=2/10=2/10ml and so on

1/10ml for every 20mcg .10ml 1 mark on the syringe most likely

[wukillabee]

You're kidding right? 200mcg/ml is exactly that
20mcg/200mcg=1/10=1/10ml
40mcg/200mcg=2/10=2/10ml and so on

1/10ml for every 20mcg .10ml 1 mark on the syringe most likely

omg ur right! Sorry, im not the best with measurements but it makes perfect sense now. Thanks!

[wukillabee]

doesn't sound at all like a heart attack...stimulant induced unhappyness

I know it wasnt a heart attack but man i was scared shitless! I never want to feel that again!

[thetank]

man, lay off the pills if you think its effecting your heart or your health..i had a similar experience and ive never taken ephedrine since. is the boost really worth it? if your tired, drink a coffee, you dont need all that shit man.

[perfectbeast2001]

Sounds good. Im taking at least a 30 day break from stims since i never want to exprience that again and it scared the shit out of me. Anyone know how i could dose my clen? Its 200mcg per ml in a 30ml bottle. I would want to start slow at 20mcg or 40mcg but not sure what the measurement would be for these 2 doses on an oral syrange. I have a 1ml oral syrange so it does very low doses. Thanks!

read my clen FAQ in my sig

[wukillabee]

read my clen FAQ in my sig

Thank you. Ive read it quite a few times before, very good clen faq you made! Im gonna take a good month off of stims completely then when im ready, start the liquid clen very slowly at 20mcg ed and go from there. Im pretty tolerant to stims, thats why i was also kinda surprised i had this experience. Sometimes when im tired i could drink a 24oz sugar free Rock Star drink and take a nap 15 minutes after finishing it. Stims dont seem to do much for me lately so thats why i tried the eca stack and it worked great for over 2 weeks. Then when i overdosed on caffeine on top of 25mg of ephedra, oh boy that shits scary! Almost had a gram of caffeine with 25mg ephedra and 81mg aspirin. Never make that mistake again! Ill try the clen out in about a month with no stims and no caffeine while im on it and see how that goes. Thank you everyone for all your input!

[Panzerfaust]

Too many supps IMO