the law, this forum...just take a look

[Dobie-BOY]

This shit is so fukin simple. A bunch of lazy non athletic grab assers will come up with any fvkin excuse they can to look like shiit. Damn it, this crap pisses me off so bad I forgot what this post was originally about. Anyway, I wonder how mant people die EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY FUKIN DAY, because they eat like shiit and NEVER take their fat assses to the gym. If we are going to outlaw everything that people choose to put in their body for enjoyment, lets start with the most common and lethal of them all, THE DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER W/ EXTRA MAYO! How many people die every year from rock climbing or racing around town on their crotch rockets? Why do we allow the production of sports cars that will go 200 mph when the speed limit is 70 mph? How long do you think the list would be of hobbies which increased the risk of death or injury? Fuk, all those paper pushin politician panzies make me sick.

[Atomini]

fedorrulz lost any credibility to me when he keeps saying to take tbol to raise test levels, so i overlook all his posts

Yeah I noticed that a week ago or so too in another thread.

Whatever. Nothing so far tops the absurdity of that list of names he just posted.

[Amorphic]

Um... alot of those guys did not die from AAS. I think it's absolutely ignorant to point at some muscular guy who dies early and say "HEY HE DIED FROM STEROIDS!!!"

First of all, Mike Mentzer died from a congenital heart defect. His brother died from the same problem a day later. Not steroids!

Andreas Munzer died from a lethal diruetic, not steroids.

Mohammed Benaziza died from diruetic abuse.

Ray Mcneil... I can't even believe you listed this guy and said he died from steroids... the guy was blown away with a shotgun blast from his wife!! VERY far from steroids, wouldn't you think!?

Ray Schmitt died from CANCER! Not steroids!

Paul Demayo died from a HEROIN OVERDOSE! Not steroids!

Johnny Fuller, again CANCER, not steroids!

I suggest you do some freaking research before running off names like that. The other ones I didn't cover (Chuck Sipes, Don Youngblood, Edouard Kawak Wilfried Sylvester) died from unknown causes. 2 of them died from heart attacks. Hardly definitively linked to AAS. If they were due to AAS, it would be due to ABUSE, not use. I'm getting sick and tired of whenever a big muscular guy dies young (even if it's from a fvcking SHOTGUN BLAST), everyone points fingers and screams "STEROIDS! STEROIDS! STEROIDS! STEROIDS!". Meanwhile people die young all the time, big and muscular or not! That youtube video looks fvcking stupid, and was probably made by someone who is very very bitter against bodybuilding for some stupid reason and is out to attack the activity/sport from any angle he can. I can't believe you bought into that piece of crap youtube video...

Most of those guys on that pathetic list you gave us died from causes COMPELTELY unrelated to AAS! Do some damn research and get your facts straight before listing names like a fvcking raffle is taking place!

damn good post

[moregunsthanroses]

I was watching a steroid documentary a month or two ago and they showed some guy browsing steroid.com lol.. AR affiliate. One top doc said he believes roid rage is a myth and that if it does exist it's extremtly rare among users.. And when a long time steroid user gets tumor later in his life. linking that to steroid is the lowest possible form of scientific proof. since theres no way of telling he would have gotten it without taking them..

They did show a bunch of older BBers who were on non stop for years. and had heart problems from the chlorestrol issues etc..

ok sorry about the thread hijack lol.. but yes canada is awesome they don't give a shit if your a user and even if your a dealer they can choose to make it a *****(I forget the term) offence which only ends up in you getting a fine and or up to a year in jail max..

[moregunsthanroses]

Canada is so great our cops are required to do 2 cycles a year, that's why we have such a low crime rate, it has nothign to do with the gun laws, lol.//

[calgarian]

Um... alot of those guys did not die from AAS. I think it's absolutely ignorant to point at some muscular guy who dies early and say "HEY HE DIED FROM STEROIDS!!!"

First of all, Mike Mentzer died from a congenital heart defect. His brother died from the same problem a day later. Not steroids!

Andreas Munzer died from a lethal diruetic, not steroids.

Mohammed Benaziza died from diruetic abuse.

Ray Mcneil... I can't even believe you listed this guy and said he died from steroids... the guy was blown away with a shotgun blast from his wife!! VERY far from steroids, wouldn't you think!?

Ray Schmitt died from CANCER! Not steroids!

Paul Demayo died from a HEROIN OVERDOSE! Not steroids!

Johnny Fuller, again CANCER, not steroids!

I suggest you do some freaking research before running off names like that. The other ones I didn't cover (Chuck Sipes, Don Youngblood, Edouard Kawak Wilfried Sylvester) died from unknown causes. 2 of them died from heart attacks. Hardly definitively linked to AAS. If they were due to AAS, it would be due to ABUSE, not use. I'm getting sick and tired of whenever a big muscular guy dies young (even if it's from a fvcking SHOTGUN BLAST), everyone points fingers and screams "STEROIDS! STEROIDS! STEROIDS! STEROIDS!". Meanwhile people die young all the time, big and muscular or not! That youtube video looks fvcking stupid, and was probably made by someone who is very very bitter against bodybuilding for some stupid reason and is out to attack the activity/sport from any angle he can. I can't believe you bought into that piece of crap youtube video...

Most of those guys on that pathetic list you gave us died from causes COMPELTELY unrelated to AAS! Do some damn research and get your facts straight before listing names like a fvcking raffle is taking place!

Another freaking good post.........

[novastepp]

people are so ignorant i can't help but laugh. they pick and choose their variables. Guy could live to the age of 45 and die "early" from some cancer.

He could have smoked from the age of 11.
He could have been a steroid user on and off for 6 years.
And HE WILL HAVE DIED FROM STEROIDS!

it's so ridiculous the way people reason. That's what scares me about certain people actually making decisions for government, our children, and our future. They can't even use simple 3rd grade logic. Check that, 2nd grade.

[Atomini]

people are so ignorant i can't help but laugh. they pick and choose their variables. Guy could live to the age of 45 and die "early" from some cancer.

He could have smoked from the age of 11.
He could have been a steroid user on and off for 6 years.
And HE WILL HAVE DIED FROM STEROIDS!

it's so ridiculous the way people reason. That's what scares me about certain people actually making decisions for government, our children, and our future. They can't even use simple 3rd grade logic. Check that, 2nd grade.

And that type of reasoning is exactly why North America is going downhill right now.

But i'd say also some of the time these politicians and people KNOW that steroids didn't cause so and so's death. They just use that to get the media to sell more. Steroid deaths make better cover stories than death from lung cancer.

[fedorrulz]

fedorrulz lost any credibility to me when he keeps saying to take tbol to raise test levels, so i overlook all his posts

"The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration.This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage."

-steroid profile.


1."Oral Turinabol was found to have the ability to reduce SHBG and allow testosterone to be more readily used."


The pharmacokinetics of Oral-Turinabol in humans] Pharmazie. 1991 Sep;46(9):650-4. German.

[Atomini]

Um... dude... that's saying that when you take 10, 20 or 40mg/day of TURINABOL, it raises TURINABOL LEVELS to 1.5 - 3.5 or 4.5 times ABOVE the ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE concentration of a human.

The profile IS NOT saying that when you take 40mg/day of turinabol that your endogenous testosterone concentration rises 4.5 times. If you're reading it that way, then 4.5 times WHAT!? They are comparing turinabol levels in the blood to endogenous testosterone levels. They aren't saying turinabol increases endogenous testosterone.

You completely misunderstood what that profile was saying. You should read things alot more carefully and slowly so that you can actually understand what they're saying. This also goes for posting BS lists of dead bodybuilders and saying everyone on that list died from steroids .

EDIT: This is why there is so much garbage misinformation out there about AAS, because people read shit wrong and then tell others their wrong interpretation as fact, so then those listening to it actually believe it as truth.

[Atomini]

In response to the edit in your post....

Once again, IT IS NOT SAYING THAT TURINABOL INCREASES TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION IN HUMANS!!!!

1."Oral Turinabol was found to have the ability to reduce SHBG and allow testosterone to be more readily used."

That's ALL it is saying! It just makes more of the testosterone that you already have in your system as being unbound to SHBG so that the testosterone that is already there is more free testosterone. This does not mean that it's increasing total testosterone levels in the human body! It means that it is just freeing up more testosterone that is already there! Geez!

It's like the equivalent of having a crowd of 30 people in handcuffs. You send in 4 guys to the crowd to uncuff 15 people. All they did is uncuff them, they didn't stick more people into the crowd! Understand?

[wilson9d]

As a person who has been investigated by the IRS, the FBI, and my local state government and police authorities -all for non steroid related issues- I can tell you that the system is designed to install fear. The authorities know that the public is informed, and they always use ambiguously vague public statements to inspire fear. And guess what, they work. They have the power, and they dont close, they are open 24/7, and you're paying for it. The problem is, that one day Americans are going to become to "FED" up with their privacy and rights being violated and fight back. Why do you think Wesley snipes got sentenced to 3 years in prison for not filing tax returns. It inspires fear. Know your rights, believe in them, and stand up for them, the USA is not going to last until 22nd century people, a new form of government will have taken over. Bring power back to the people, we shouldnt have to live in fear anymore.

I agree, in my younger years I was quite the patriot. Then I came to understand the politicians use the people’s money to control us and repress us to increase their amount of power. The system creates a separation between classes and races; it creates tension within the public to reduce friction between the public and the state. This increases their control which in turn increases their power. There is a fraction of the public that is starting to rebel and it grows with each generation. The oligarchy has become so separated from the people. It is only a matter of time until there’s a meltdown. The writing is on the wall the state of our country resembles the empires of Rome, Grease, China, and France before they collapsed.

[kirk3624]

I agree, in my younger years I was quite the patriot. Then I came to understand the politicians use the people’s money to control us and repress us to increase their amount of power. The system creates a separation between classes and races; it creates tension within the public to reduce friction between the public and the state. This increases their control which in turn increases their power. There is a fraction of the public that is starting to rebel and it grows with each generation. The oligarchy has become so separated from the people. It is only a matter of time until there’s a meltdown. The writing is on the wall the state of our country resembles the empires of Rome, Grease, China, and France before they collapsed.

Very good post. I have recently considered studying the fall of Rome in depth to reveal similarities and to be better prepared. I believe someone recently wrote a book with the same argument.

"History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes."

[fedorrulz]

In response to the edit in your post....

Once again, IT IS NOT SAYING THAT TURINABOL INCREASES TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION IN HUMANS!!!!

1."Oral Turinabol was found to have the ability to reduce SHBG and allow testosterone to be more readily used."

That's ALL it is saying! It just makes more of the testosterone that you already have in your system as being unbound to SHBG so that the testosterone that is already there is more free testosterone. This does not mean that it's increasing total testosterone levels in the human body! It means that it is just freeing up more testosterone that is already there! Geez!

It's like the equivalent of having a crowd of 30 people in handcuffs. You send in 4 guys to the crowd to uncuff 15 people. All they did is uncuff them, they didn't stick more people into the crowd! Understand?

roid rage 101

[ChuckLee]

Um... alot of those guys did not die from AAS. I think it's absolutely ignorant to point at some muscular guy who dies early and say "HEY HE DIED FROM STEROIDS!!!"

First of all, Mike Mentzer died from a congenital heart defect. His brother died from the same problem a day later. Not steroids!

Andreas Munzer died from a lethal diruetic, not steroids.

Mohammed Benaziza died from diruetic abuse.

Ray Mcneil... I can't even believe you listed this guy and said he died from steroids... the guy was blown away with a shotgun blast from his wife!! VERY far from steroids, wouldn't you think!?

Ray Schmitt died from CANCER! Not steroids!

Paul Demayo died from a HEROIN OVERDOSE! Not steroids!

Johnny Fuller, again CANCER, not steroids!

I suggest you do some freaking research before running off names like that. The other ones I didn't cover (Chuck Sipes, Don Youngblood, Edouard Kawak Wilfried Sylvester) died from unknown causes. 2 of them died from heart attacks. Hardly definitively linked to AAS. If they were due to AAS, it would be due to ABUSE, not use. I'm getting sick and tired of whenever a big muscular guy dies young (even if it's from a fvcking SHOTGUN BLAST), everyone points fingers and screams "STEROIDS! STEROIDS! STEROIDS! STEROIDS!". Meanwhile people die young all the time, big and muscular or not! That youtube video looks fvcking stupid, and was probably made by someone who is very very bitter against bodybuilding for some stupid reason and is out to attack the activity/sport from any angle he can. I can't believe you bought into that piece of crap youtube video...

Most of those guys on that pathetic list you gave us died from causes COMPELTELY unrelated to AAS! Do some damn research and get your facts straight before listing names like a fvcking raffle is taking place!

This concurs perfectly with the today's injected vid.
Great post Atomini.

CL

[thetank]

Canada is so great our cops are required to do 2 cycles a year, that's why we have such a low crime rate, it has nothign to do with the gun laws, lol.//

man, are you kidding?

[Atomini]

roid rage 101

Yes, that's right, because I flew off my handle and beat the shit out of you, right?

Wrong.

More like correcting scientific misinformation 101. Grow up please.

[SnaX]

How can there be a mandatory sentence for a crime with NO VICTIM?

[goodcents]

The people or Dea that are watching these forums should feel like absolute puppets. They are reducing the freedoms of Americans just like themselves. Steroids are posing no legitimate threat to anyone anymore than alcohol does.

Dea, do you really think you are improving the country? You are stripping the freedoms given to us by the constitution. You are letting the government pull the wool over the publics eyes by ignoring real problems.

Real problems like some of the worst education in the world. A dollar that will soon be worth nothing (affects your dea wages too). Inflation causes food prices to rise and people to starve. Fighting wars that are government starts. Promoting religion that separates all types of people. Someday there will be unity and people like you will feel worthless for being on the side of suppressive ignorance. Puppets. Have some pride in yourselves.

Like to add that the same things were done in ww2 where people acted against their own people and you see how that turned out

[Johnny_Rotten]

Fedor you just got owned dude!

[CSAR]

Holy shit, Paul "Quadzilla" DeMayo died from an H overdose? How the fvck did I miss that one?

[Atomini]

Holy shit, Paul "Quadzilla" DeMayo died from an H overdose? How the fvck did I miss that one?

You shouldn't have missed any of them.

NONE of them died from steroids, lol.

[CSAR]

You shouldn't have missed any of them.

NONE of them died from steroids, lol.

Yes, I already knew none of those individuals died from steroids.

Re-read my post. I didn't know Paul DeMayo died from an H (the letter H being the first word in the drug he overdosed on) overdose.

[football2007]

roid rage 101

aka I know I'm wrong so I'll make myself feel better and hide

[Atomini]

aka I know I'm wrong so I'll make myself feel better and hide

[ultra40]

Hahaha Please come back Fed so Atomini can keep owning you

[pumpd4lif]

How about 12?

Carlos Rodriquez

Mohammed Benaziza

Chuck Sipes

Ray Mcneil

Andreas Munzer

Mike Mentzer

Sonny Schmidt

Don Younglood

Paul Demayo

Johnny Fuller

Edouad Kawak

Wilfried Sylvester

RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZj7xB9KyTo

Dont beleive everything you read fed... haha:aaok****t

[pumpd4lif]

Hahaha Please come back Fed so Atomini can keep owning you

hahahahah