economic stimulus, $600 is on it's way!!!

[Atomini]

I don't like the healthcare system here in Canada. Too long waiting periods for important things.

[kirk3624]

i cant believe people think think this a good thing.

wealth doesn't come from a printing press. it just makes crap worse in the long run.

there is no such thing as free money. where do you guys think this is coming from. they just print more paper. so stupid.

and the dollar loses value again. I wish they would make a bill to make the dollar compete against gold and silver. good by run away inflation, good bye the government wasting money. When you print it doesn't matter. You cant counter fit gold though. I hate how people think crap like this is the solution, it ignores the major problem in the first place.

and why the fed is just allowed to do this out of thin air is beyond me. What the dollar is worth 4 cents now to what those clowns started with in 1913 and it just keeps goin lower.

This constant bubles and inflation/deflation is why we have problems like today. When you trade gold coins or have money based on gold this isnt an issue in the first place. And its always the people on fixed incomes, poor and middle class that get robbed. This kind of shit just contributes to inflation and depressing the value of the dollar while the few elite at the top benefit. Im no economist but common sense please. And im not even going to say his name the only one that realizes it.

This is a great post. On the money.

[SMCengineer]

You must be very very young if you think we are contending with high inflation rates, take a look at real inflation in the mid 70s to early 80s, know what the mortgage rate was for a house? 18-20%!! Now it's under 6% even 5%. We are at a "healthy inflation" around 3% as opposed to 12-15% in the Juimmy Carter years.

The core inflation measure is very misleading. Simply because the consumer price index underestimates inflation rates. As calculated today, the CPI excludes food and energy prices. The biggest difference, however, between today's inflation rates and those of the late 70's and early 80's is that the CPI fails to calculate housing prices. Instead, starting in the early 80's, shelter was calculated by tracking rent prices, which assured that housing cost increases always stay in the single digits. All this leads to the artificially lower inflation rates that we now see.

To further keep us in the dark, last February the fed stopped providing statistics on money supply, or M3. Of course, M3 isn't the only indicator of inflation because you also have to take into account velocity and GDP, but considering M3 has trippled since 1990 and doubled within the past 10 years you can be certain of poor monetary policy and "unhealthy inflation."

[bigt10]

As i said the only people that benefit are the people at the top.

the middle and bottom class are getting screwed and have been for a while.

wages going down or staying the same, higher housing prices, higher energy costs, higher gas prices, more taxes, food costs more.

And to however said they can do inflation with Gold wtf.

since when can you create gold out of nothing. gold and commodities dont owrk like that. you can always artificially increase paper.

having the paper compete against other commodites is a great idea and actually a bill guess who ron paul wants to introduce.

you laugh now. Im young but i feel for the seniors, people who saved money their whole life and now its worth nothing along with all the rising costs of living.

[bigt10]

also the falling dollar i am sure has something to do with allt he rising costs of everything.

inflation wasnt bad. then they mad it illegal to use gold to trade with and also didnt back the dollar by gold anymore.

The problem is government issued paper isnt backed by anything, they can inflate or deflate the supply as much as they choose.

however gold, oil, silver, titanium... etc are commodities.

The us government doesn't make old, and they don't control the supply of it either.

you cant just throw gold coins away to everyone they're actually worth something.

That is why some people have a point the government shouldn't be allowed to create currency.

Anyways if we didnt have a federal reserve or a paper back in the first place we wouldnt be here and have these constant bubles causing the "good times" and " bad times"

Its even more important now as the US dollar is only going to continue to go down in value after all the money they borrowed from other countries to finance their world wide empire and the war in the middle east.

can someone refresh me the national debt is like 9 trillionright. All i know is sometime you have to pay the bills. anyone can be rich by borrowing. and history tells that a printing press doesnt make a prosperous nation.

[bigt10]

sorry to post again but in Webb's case his province actually has this money and in Canada if u have seen the federal budget the national debt is going down and they believe to be in a surplus around 2020.

Alberta is a rich province with no debt. In there case them financing actual money back into their own economy is helping it. They actually have this money. Alberta is booming and prosperous.

come on guys a nation with 9 trillion in debt is GIVING AWAY 600 to everyone.. pffft its like throwing monopoly money around.

[Papi93]

To pay off a credit card.

[WEBB]

we actually dont pay for it...wat has happened is since the province is making so much money in oil and gas the goverment is takin a royalty and putting it towards better helath care, scholling, roads, cops everything, well we happend to have a huge surplus even afetr huge increases in funding to all sectors and with the surplus we made it so no one in alberta pays one cent to go see a doctor. it didnt come from my income tax that i worked for it came from a province that is making trillions of dollars selling oil and gas to countries around the world...not only that the province has 0 debt and has been makin millions yearly and the country will be outta debt very soon....i am not saying there are not flaws but in terms of financial prosperity and free health care Alberta and canada are world leaders...oh and to the comment about a 17 week wait, i walked in to the clinic yesterday seen a doc, got a script for anti inflamitories and a blod work in 30 minutes with no wait, walked 3 blocks to the hospital and got the blood work done...i egt my results in 8 days....and the wait is cause i live in butt fuk no where....

[Manorexic]

buying hookers and crack

[bigt10]

we actually dont pay for it...wat has happened is since the province is making so much money in oil and gas the goverment is takin a royalty and putting it towards better helath care, scholling, roads, cops everything, well we happend to have a huge surplus even afetr huge increases in funding to all sectors and with the surplus we made it so no one in alberta pays one cent to go see a doctor. it didnt come from my income tax that i worked for it came from a province that is making trillions of dollars selling oil and gas to countries around the world...not only that the province has 0 debt and has been makin millions yearly and the country will be outta debt very soon....i am not saying there are not flaws but in terms of financial prosperity and free health care Alberta and canada are world leaders...oh and to the comment about a 17 week wait, i walked in to the clinic yesterday seen a doc, got a script for anti inflamitories and a blod work in 30 minutes with no wait, walked 3 blocks to the hospital and got the blood work done...i egt my results in 8 days....and the wait is cause i live in butt fuk no where....

ya it isnt that bad as alot of people claim. Although im not gonna lie sometimes to see a specialist or to get a surgery etc can take a while but for the most part its fine.

[WEBB]

yes a lot of the specialist take more time but they have increased horspital beds, cancer cure spending, and also more hospital sin general so it is getting better....no systems perfect btu it is nice having it free and being able to walk in the hospital door and not worry about insurance...

[bigt10]

yes a lot of the specialist take more time but they have increased horspital beds, cancer cure spending, and also more hospital sin general so it is getting better....no systems perfect btu it is nice having it free and being able to walk in the hospital door and not worry about insurance...

he is right in the states they want the insurance companies to be able to directly acess your records their just ruining privacy.

atleast up here you can tell your doctor your on a AAS cycle and tell her you want your blood work done and they will and they arent going to arrest you or if your medical company finds out and raises premiums.

You can always walk into a clinic or hospital free. Obviously dental work, some specialist work, and surgery still costs alot.

[WEBB]

ya thats true...but most companies in Canada will give you benifits...i have had full medical and dental including perscritions since i started in my trade 12yrs ago....no matter what the script is i pay the dispensing fee only, so like 20bucks tops, even if i could get gh i pay dick all....just need a script for it...hahah

[bigt10]

no way hey webb do most insurance companies up here will they cover HGH and Testosterone if you were on a HRT program.

[WEBB]

well it depends on your plan and the company that carries it...with my company we have a good plan, but since i manage now my plan si up graded to cover almost everything except plastic surgury basically...we get massages, acupuncture, braces, all sorts of stuff and the ones i want HRT, HGH, and a vasectomy are all covered....perfect...now i need a script and i got blood work done friday morning so i will find out soon if i get approved...

on a side note as i made up a few sympotoms to get my HRT test and gh test done i said i was having erectile diffuculty so after he said yes to blood work he asked if i wanted some Viagra....and what do i say...no, like how stupid....even if i never need em they would be fun to have just to use when trying to impress a girl...hahah...im gonna ask for em again when i go back for my results...

[firmechicano831]

I want my check. lol

[bigt10]

well it depends on your plan and the company that carries it...with my company we have a good plan, but since i manage now my plan si up graded to cover almost everything except plastic surgury basically...we get massages, acupuncture, braces, all sorts of stuff and the ones i want HRT, HGH, and a vasectomy are all covered....perfect...now i need a script and i got blood work done friday morning so i will find out soon if i get approved...

on a side note as i made up a few sympotoms to get my HRT test and gh test done i said i was having erectile diffuculty so after he said yes to blood work he asked if i wanted some Viagra....and what do i say...no, like how stupid....even if i never need em they would be fun to have just to use when trying to impress a girl...hahah...im gonna ask for em again when i go back for my results...

haha hey Webb i had to do something very similar to get another drugs but not test or HGH.

is he going to check the blood and give u the test or send u to a endo or anti aging place?

DO they make you waste the time with that andro gel crap.

Also is there anyway to get at least 200-300 mg a week of test C. i have heard some docs are conservative as hell prescribing that stuff.

also did you use deca or tren or go back on pct so u know you would have a low test count??? Cause if you make up symptoms and the tests show levels are really high i dont see how that would work.

[bigt10]

haha sorry Webb you gotta telll me how that went. what does the doctor say when he sees a huge body builder that has been training for years and used AAS and the guy is complaing about low testosterone levels haha.

didnt he say well for a man with so much muscle i dont think you would have low test.

i guess the best comeback to that would be make up some bs story about your steroid use has caused it...

[WEBB]

well i am on tren and a bit of prop but enough tren to lower my levels as well as i ate before my blood test and that will throw other parts off...he asked if i was on aas and i said no and that i did a year ago and he said that could cause it and he asked if i wanted Viagra then....hhahaaha...after i said no i said i was having puffy nipples and he said that he will tets for estrogen also and if that comes back he'll script me for aromisin or nolvadex ....he had a open bottle of test c on the desk so i know he will do it just needs the tests to back it up...i iwll let you know how the tests go and whta i get if anything....

[kfrost06]

oh and to the comment about a 17 week wait, i walked in to the clinic yesterday seen a doc, got a script for anti inflamitories and a blod work in 30 minutes with no wait, walked 3 blocks to the hospital and got the blood work done...i egt my results in 8 days....and the wait is cause i live in butt fuk no where....

I was wrong about the 17 week wait time, it's now up to 18+weeks.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/...es-fraser.html

A typical Canadian seeking surgical or other therapeutic treatment had to wait 18.3 weeks in 2007, an all-time high, according to new research published Monday by independent research organization the Fraser Institute.

"Despite government promises and the billions of dollars funnelled into the Canadian health-care system, the average patient waited more than 18 weeks in 2007 between seeing their family doctor and receiving the surgery or treatment they required," said Nadeem Esmail, director of Health System Performance Studies at the Fraser Institute and co-author of the 17th annual edition of Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada.

What good is free healthcare if you can't use it? You have a tumor that needs to be removed comeback in 4.5 months if your still alive.

[kfrost06]

I don't like the healthcare system here in Canada. Too long waiting periods for important things.

Your not alone, there is a booming business here in the US right on the Canadian border. Health clinics and hospitals for Canadians that are fed up with the failed healthcare system in Canada.

[bigt10]

well surgery and other specialzed things take forever to get done. otherwise it isnt so bad.

[F4iGuy]

Going toward summer classes. Woo hoo.

[feanixco]

Going towards more ink under my skin

[ottomaddox]

Anybody get their check yet?
People who use direct deposit also will be among the first to receive the payments starting April 28. Direct deposits will be made daily and completed by the date listed below:

DIRECT DEPOSIT

Last two SSN digits: Payments will be transmitted no later than:
00 through 20 May 2
21 through 75 May 9
76 through 99 May 16




Paper checks will also go out based on Social Security number. For Social Security numbers ending in 00 through 09, the paper checks will be mailed starting May 9 and will continue through May 16. A similar process will be repeated in the following weeks.
PAPER CHECK

Last two SSN digits: Payments will be mailed no later than:
00 through 09 May 16
10 through 18 May 23
19 through 25 May 30
26 through 38 June 6
39 through 51 June 13
52 through 63 June 20
64 through 75 June 27
76 through 87 July 4
88 through 99 July 11

[kfrost06]

not yet but according to the chart I should have it tomorrow

[ottomaddox]

Me too, been watching the account for it.

not yet but according to the chart I should have it tomorrow

[G-1000]

Im sure i will never even get a check.

[gixxerboy1]

I owe tax money so they are appling it to my balance

[thegodfather]

All of this talk is equivalent to trying to put a band-aid on a THIRTY gun shot wounds!!! You guys are not even addressing the core problems BEHIND the current problems.


1)FACT: The Constitution of the United States of America clearly states "Only gold and silver may be legal tender."

1)ANALYSIS: The Federal Reserve has no authority under the Constitution of this country to print paper money. The current government institution is granted NO MORE POWER than what is designated within th Constitution.

2) FACT: Gold has a near 5,000 year history of having intrinsic value to purchase goods, and it is impossible to counterfeit/inflate.

2) ANALYSIS: While gold was during the 60s and 70s worth $250/ounce, this was because it was a readily used and traded currency. What we saw with gold was a stagnation in value, WHICH IS A GOOD THING! What we see currently is free reign to print money out of thin air, debase the value of the citizens purchasing power, and it has ALLOWED government to spiral out of control and increase its largesse beyond anything the founding fathers could have EVER envisioned.

3)FACT: The 18th Amendment was passed in 1913, when more than half of Congress was not present to vote on it. Additionally, taxes on income did not reference salaries, it was intended to tax businesses for profits&gains.

3) Analysis: The current state of the income tax is illegal. The IRS has absolutely no authority to enforce laws which do not exist in the Constitution. They are only able to do so due to the aforementioned government largesse and subsequent CORRUPTION thereof. The only foot they have to stand on is previous case law which sets precedants but cannot stand the litmus test to the Constitution.


Not a single person of the 6 billion on Earth is going to be able to change those FACTS... Eat that shit...

[Lavinco]

I feel stimulated alrady.

[small guyy]

Gov (bush) Sends Us $600 And In The Mean Time Jacks Up The Gas.
And I Whould Like To Know Just How Much Oil Bush's Family Owns.
He Basically Decides How Much Money He Wants To Steal From Us!

[Gators]

We borrowed 150 billion from the Chinese to do this, i filed an extension, but if i get one then i will return it ($2100) and tell them to donate it to the Jeremiah Wright hate whitey fund.

[firmechicano831]

I want some gear and puss..y.

[firmechicano831]

No later then June 13th for me.
http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=180250,00.html

[kfrost06]

All of this talk is equivalent to trying to put a band-aid on a THIRTY gun shot wounds!!! You guys are not even addressing the core problems BEHIND the current problems.


1)FACT: The Constitution of the United States of America clearly states "Only gold and silver may be legal tender."

1)ANALYSIS: The Federal Reserve has no authority under the Constitution of this country to print paper money. The current government institution is granted NO MORE POWER than what is designated within th Constitution.

2) FACT: Gold has a near 5,000 year history of having intrinsic value to purchase goods, and it is impossible to counterfeit/inflate.

2) ANALYSIS: While gold was during the 60s and 70s worth $250/ounce, this was because it was a readily used and traded currency. What we saw with gold was a stagnation in value, WHICH IS A GOOD THING! What we see currently is free reign to print money out of thin air, debase the value of the citizens purchasing power, and it has ALLOWED government to spiral out of control and increase its largesse beyond anything the founding fathers could have EVER envisioned.

3)FACT: The 18th Amendment was passed in 1913, when more than half of Congress was not present to vote on it. Additionally, taxes on income did not reference salaries, it was intended to tax businesses for profits&gains.

3) Analysis: The current state of the income tax is illegal. The IRS has absolutely no authority to enforce laws which do not exist in the Constitution. They are only able to do so due to the aforementioned government largesse and subsequent CORRUPTION thereof. The only foot they have to stand on is previous case law which sets precedants but cannot stand the litmus test to the Constitution.


Not a single person of the 6 billion on Earth is going to be able to change those FACTS... Eat that shit...

whatever you said maybe true but i really could use that $600 right now

[kfrost06]

I got my money today!!! I m rich(for a day at least)!

[thegodfather]

whatever you said maybe true but i really could use that $600 right now

Im trying to think of the best way to spend my check while snubbing my nose at the government.. Either buying a cycle or donating it to the Tehran administration...Lol

[JDawg1536]

The last two of social are 98. Good for a draft, not so good when they are handing out free money.

[SMCengineer]

Im trying to think of the best way to spend my check while snubbing my nose at the government.. Either buying a cycle or donating it to the Tehran administration...Lol

Buying a cycle from overseas should do the trick, which is what I did.