politics help

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 01:19 AM

k so i am canadian and we dont have republican or democrat, we have conservative and liberal...and new democrat but there a joke....just wondering what the two are, like what are the fundamentals of each so i know which one i am...not that it matters, but i have always wondered...also which one is the elephant and which is the donkey...and why???

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 01:23 AM

http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/othe...beral-beliefs/

**G4R** · 05-18-2008, 01:24 AM

Your Conservative = Our Republicans, Your Liberals = Our Democrats

Also, Republicans are the Elephants, and Democrats are the Donkeys, I forget why, both suck.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 01:25 AM

http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/donkey-elephant.html

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

Your Conservative = Our Republicans, Your Liberals = Our Democrats Awesome thanks man...now hwich is Obama and which is McCain....

Also, Republicans are the Elephants, and Democrats are the Donkeys, I forget why, both suck.

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/donkey-elephant.html

Thanks Bigsexy....

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 01:29 AM

also did anyone see McCain on SNL tonight...he was actaully pretty funny, and i admire him for going on a show like that cause usually they just make fun of those guys but he went on and made fun of his age and stuff....

**G4R** · 05-18-2008, 01:31 AM

Obama is Democrat, and McCain is Republican..... only the cream of the crop for us......

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by WEBB

also did anyone see McCain on SNL tonight...he was actaully pretty funny, and i admire him for going on a show like that cause usually they just make fun of those guys but he went on and made fun of his age and stuff....

Obama would be the liberal democrat

McCain would be the conservative republican

lol I saw that it was on, but didn't see it. hahaha I bet it was hilarious. It will be on youtube tomorrow. Youtube controls the world

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

Obama is Democrat, and McCain is Republican..... only the cream of the crop for us......

Whats that? Sarcasm? lol

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 01:36 AM

hmmm... i thought i would be more Obama as if i was american he would get my vote....guess i should read more about his idea's and stuff cause i know i am conservative....thanks guys....

ya he was pretty funny, made fun of his age and then on weekend update he was sayin how they should keep the two democrats till november basically so they would keep fighting...it was really good actually

**G4R** · 05-18-2008, 01:37 AM

Haha, sarcasm... Nooooooooo

It's great, everybody's fav candidate is going to solve all are problems.... I mean come on, hasen't that been the case every other election? God Bless America! LOL

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

Haha, sarcasm... Nooooooooo

It's great, everybody's fav candidate is going to solve all are problems.... I mean come on, hasen't that been the case every other election? God Bless America! LOL

whoa whoa whoa....now that was sarcasm...right?

**G4R** · 05-18-2008, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by WEBB

whoa whoa whoa....now that was sarcasm...right?

Haha

**Amorphic** · 05-18-2008, 02:58 AM

just dont support McCain or Harper and i will still love you WEBB

**thegodfather** · 05-18-2008, 03:29 AM

Conservative, Liberal, Reactionary, and Radical.... are only relative to the countrys political history and environment. They cannot be applied across country lines.

**SMCengineer** · 05-18-2008, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/othe...beral-beliefs/

This website is seriously misleading and inaccurate.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Blome

This website is seriously misleading and inaccurate.

really?

**SMCengineer** · 05-18-2008, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

really?

Yes sir.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Blome

Yes sir.

lol, well shit

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Blome

This website is seriously misleading and inaccurate.

Hey Blome, could you find me a website like that, that is accurate?

I'd appreciate it

**SMCengineer** · 05-18-2008, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Hey Blome, could you find me a website like that, that is accurate?

I'd appreciate it

I could try, but you have to realize that true conservatism has been horribly maimed since George Wallace, the man largely responsible for the southern take over of the GOP (the south was predominantly democratic before), and Pat Robertson's religious insurgency in the 1980's. It was further distorted in 1994 when the Republican party became the majority in the House and the Senate and the main concern became party soliderity/power rather than principle. It would be easier to give you examples and a few good books on the subject than to find an accurate site.

I'll just give you one example of what I mean by inaccurate:
War in Iraq: "This was a preemptive strike to protect the U.S. All intelligence indicated that Saddam Hussein possessed and used weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in the past and was prepared to use them again. He would not allow United Nations weapons inspectors to confirm his claim that he had destroyed his WMDs.

A democracy can succeed in Iraq if the people are given the opportunity to create one. All people want to live in freedom."

This is inherently a Wilsonian trait, who was a Progressive/liberal not a conservative. Wilsonian ideology was adopted by the neoconservatives, or "new" conservatives, starting around the 1960's-1970's. Conservatives err on the side of reluctancy regarding military force and they don't believe in spreading "democracy" through force nor do they condone preventative strikes.

**PowerPress** · 05-18-2008, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

k so i am canadian and we dont have republican or democrat, we have conservative and liberal...and new democrat but there a joke....just wondering what the two are, like what are the fundamentals of each so i know which one i am...not that it matters, but i have always wondered...also which one is the elephant and which is the donkey...and why???

sorry

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Blome

I could try, but you have to realize that true conservatism has been horribly maimed since George Wallace, the man largely responsible for the southern take over of the GOP (the south was predominantly democratic before), and Pat Robertson's religious insurgency in the 1980's. It was further distorted in 1994 when the Republican party became the majority in the House and the Senate and the main concern became party soliderity/power rather than principle. It would be easier to give you examples and a few good books on the subject than to find an accurate site.

I'll just give you one example of what I mean by inaccurate:
War in Iraq: "This was a preemptive strike to protect the U.S. All intelligence indicated that Saddam Hussein possessed and used weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in the past and was prepared to use them again. He would not allow United Nations weapons inspectors to confirm his claim that he had destroyed his WMDs.

A democracy can succeed in Iraq if the people are given the opportunity to create one. All people want to live in freedom."

This is inherently a Wilsonian trait, who was a Progressive/liberal not a conservative. Wilsonian ideology was adopted by the neoconservatives, or "new" conservatives, starting around the 1960's-1970's. Conservatives err on the side of reluctancy regarding military force and they don't believe in spreading "democracy" through force nor do they condone preventative strikes.

I see what your saying.

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by PowerPress

sorry

well your Girl has some Canadian in her....well she had 8'' at leasst last night.....hahahahaha

i actually like Obama more than Mccain, but i am a conservative so i dunno now....

**Amorphic** · 05-18-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

well your Girl has some Canadian in her....well she had 8'' at leasst last night.....hahahahaha

i actually like Obama more than Mccain, but i am a conservative so i dunno now....

just because you say you are conservative doesnt mean you have to support the conservative candidate.

if you like obama better, it doesnt change your entire political identity.

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 02:58 PM

ya thats a good point....i just dont get politics at all really, and i really hsould try....but fuk they are sooo o boring....

**SMCengineer** · 05-18-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

well your Girl has some Canadian in her....well she had 8'' at leasst last night.....hahahahaha

i actually like Obama more than Mccain, but i am a conservative so i dunno now....

Do you like Ron Paul or Bob Barr?

**PowerPress** · 05-18-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

well your Girl has some Canadian in her....well she had 8'' at leasst last night.....hahahahah

i knew those canadian sex toys would ruin her.

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Blome

Do you like Ron Paul or Bob Barr?

i dunno, from what i read and heard i would say Ron Paul....

Originally Posted by PowerPress

i knew those canadian sex toys would ruin her.

ya i had to use a strap on, cause once i gave her my 10'' in her turd tunnel, she wanted more up her vagg...she has a big appetite for Canadian sausage bro...

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-18-2008, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

i actually like Obama more than Mccain, but i am a conservative so i dunno now....

Well, like some people say. Vote for the person, not the party

**SMCengineer** · 05-18-2008, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

i dunno, from what i read and heard i would say Ron Paul....

I worded that incorrectly. I didn't mean which one do you like better I meant do you like either one of them. They're both conservatives.

**WEBB** · 05-18-2008, 08:53 PM

oh, well ya...i havent heard to much about bob barr tbh, but the ron paul stuff i like and agree with most....

**PowerPress** · 05-18-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

ya i had to use a strap on, cause once i gave her my 10'' in her turd tunnel, she wanted more up her vagg...she has a big appetite for Canadian sausage bro...

rofl classic!!!