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    Calorie Restriction = Living Longer???

    While the quest for the proverbial Fountain of Youth is endless and typically fruitless, one method known to extend the human lifespan by up to five years has quietly become accepted among leading researchers.

    The formula is simple: Eat less. It could add years to your life, several experts now say. And done in moderation, it could at least help you live a more healthy life.


    The only question is: Will the average person do it?


    While little short of a nip-and-tuck will make you look younger, calorie restriction, as it is called, is as close to a real Fountain of Youth as any known technique comes. Even scientists who are cautious about anti-aging hype say it works, both by cutting risks for some diseases and by allowing all body cells, somehow, to hang in there longer.


    "There is plenty of evidence that calorie restriction can reduce your risks for many common diseases including cancer, diabetes and heart disease," says Saint Louis University researcher Edward Weiss, who last week announced a new study that brings fresh understanding to how it works. "And you may live to be substantially older."


    The numbers


    Here's a rough rule of thumb that many experts generally agree on now: Eat 15 percent less starting at age 25 and you might add 4.5 years to your life, says Eric Ravussin, who studies human health and performance at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Louisiana.


    One important caveat: Ravussin's estimate is based mostly on studies of other animals and only preliminary research in humans. But the work by Weiss and others is unlocking the mysteries of aging and suggesting the animal studies apply to humans.


    "There is absolutely no reason to think it won't work," Ravussin told LiveScience.


    Perhaps even more promising, though in early stages of research, are drugs designed on the basis of what's been learned from calorie-restriction studies. Those drugs would target human cells to deliver the same benefits, turning off bad things and turning on good things to extend cell life in general, or offer new therapies and cures to vexing diseases like Alzheimer's and cancer.


    If you can hang in there until these promising new drug therapies are developed, you may live in a world where lifespan increases by 10 to 15 years, researchers say.


    Don't plan on living to be 200, Ravussin said, "but I think we're going to gain quite a few years."


    Mysteries remain


    Scientists aren't sure exactly why calorie restriction slows aging. But they're on the verge of a firm understanding. In a nutshell, it is thought to lower metabolic rate and cause the body to generate fewer damaging "free radicals."


    One hypothesis is that it decreases a thyroid hormone, triiodothyronine (T3), which then slows metabolism and tissue aging.


    Weiss and colleagues studied men and women, aged 50 to 60, who did not smoke, were not obese and were in good health. The volunteers were split into three groups - a calorie-restriction group, an exercise group, or a control group - and followed for one year. The calorie-restriction group cut back by 300 to 500 calories per day. (A typical healthy adult diet should include about 2,000 calories.) Volunteers in the exercise group maintained their regular diet and exercised regularly.


    While both the calorie-restriction and exercise groups experienced similar changes of body fat mass, only those in the calorie restriction group also experienced lower levels of the thyroid hormone. A longer-term study is still needed to pin down whether reducing T3 levels through calorie restriction indeed slows the aging process as suspected, the scientists say.


    The results were published in the June issue of the journal Rejuvenation Research.

    Step-by-step

    Weiss' work advances the body of anti-aging knowledge, said Christy Carter, an aging researcher and assistant professor at the University of Florida College of Medicine.

    "The more that scientists can demonstrate similar biological profiles between rodents and humans with regards to calorie restriction, the greater the possibility that lifespan extension will translate to human as well," Carter said.

    Weiss figured it's sensible to take steps now. You can cut 300 to 500 calories by simply skipping dessert or substituting a turkey sandwich for fast food. A nutritional diet and exercise are important to any weight-loss effort, Weiss and others caution.

    "Our research provides evidence that calorie restriction does work in humans like it has been shown to work in animals," Weiss said. "The next step is to determine if this in fact slows age-related tissue deterioration. The only way to be certain, though, is to do a long-term study."

    Others agree: more research is needed.

    "I think that they've documented a real and interesting effect of caloric restriction in humans," said UCLA *********ary biologist Jay Phelan. "But they are still a long way from demonstrating that it changes human lifespan at all."

    Proven in animals

    Evidence that calorie restriction boosts lifespans in rodents is solid. Christiaan Leeuwenburgh of the University of Florida's Institute on Aging showed in 2006 that eating just 8 percent less and exercising a little more over a lifespan can reduce or even reverse aging-related cell and organ damage in rats.

    Various studies have shown that cutting calories by 20 to 40 percent significantly both extends life and, with a little exercise, leaves old animals in better shape.

    Eating fewer calories also reduces age-related chronic diseases such as cancers, heart disease, and stroke in rodents. That's important because it suggests ways to not just make us live longer, but to allow us to age more gracefully, healthwise.

    Research last year found that rats on a restricted diet are more physically fit in old age, apparently slowing the typical onset of physical disability. The rodents also looked and probably felt better: "Rats that ate a normal diet lost a significant amount of lean muscle mass and acquired more fat, while calorie-restricted rats maintained lean muscle mass as they aged," said lead researcher Tongjian You from the University of Buffalo. The finding was published in the October issue of the Journals of Gerontology Series A: Biological Sciences and Medical Sciences.

    Rodents are thought to be good analogues to humans. Dogs are even better.

    A 14-year study of 48 Labrador Retrievers found restricting their diets by 25 percent starting at 8 weeks of age extended their lives by an average of 1.8 years. For a creature that typically never gets beyond its early teens, that's a big number. The findings were published back in 2002 in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association.

    "The study also showed that lean body conformation forestalls some chronic illnesses, most notably osteoarthritis," said University of Pennsylvania researcher Gail K. Smith, who worked on the dog study. Ailments typically struck the lean dogs 2.1 years later than the others.

    Probably works in humans

    Convincing humans to eat less, and then studying the effects over a lifetime, is considerably more challenging. But mounting research suggests that what works for rats and dogs seems to apply to people.

    Studies are under way with monkeys, which have lifespans of around 25 to 30 years, and early indications are promising, Ravussin said.

    A study of humans last year found that cutting calories in human test subjects reduced oxidative damage in muscle cells. In the journal PLoS Medicine, the researchers speculated that the effect might translate into longer life.

    Researchers caution, however, that longer lifespans does not mean immortality. The vast majority of mainstream researchers envision lifespans extending a few years.

    "My estimate would be that 40 years of caloric restriction would give a 3 to 7 percent increase in longevity, so an optimistic estimate would be an additional four years or so," said Phelan, the UCLA researcher.

    But researchers are quick to point out that human nature is not conducive to life-long calorie-restriction diets. "It's going to be limited to a few people who are going to try to do that," Ravussin said.

    Seeking balance

    "Suffering years of misery to remain super-skinny is not going to have a big payoff in terms of a longer life," Phelan said back in 2005 when the idea of "living forever" was particularly hyped in the media. "I once heard someone say caloric restriction may not make you live forever, but it sure would seem like it. Try to maintain a healthy body weight, but don't deprive yourself of all pleasure. Moderation appears to be a more sensible solution."

    Phelan uses rodents as an example of why caution is warranted:

    Mice will live longer if their diet is restricted by 10 percent, he said in 2005. "If you restrict their intake by 20 percent, they live even longer, and restrict them to 50 percent, they live longer still. But restrict their intake by 60 percent and they starve to death."

    In an email interview the other day, Phelan said he stands by this assessment.

    And Phelan now thinks there is "nothing" on the research horizon "that would extend lifespan in a significant amount, on the order of 10 or more years."

    Big promise?

    Other experts are optimistic that research into calorie restriction will lead to greater things.

    Scientists are investigating what they call CR mimetics, or compounds that mimic the effects of calorie restriction. "This includes naturally occurring compounds and pharmaceuticals," explained Carter, the University of Florida researcher. "One that has received much attention lately is a compound called resveratrol, found in red wine."

    Researchers have long pondered the French paradox: The French eat high-fat diets but live relatively long lives. Resveratrol and other compounds in red wine are thought by many to contribute to that good life. But testing any anti-aging drug or therapy sets up another tricky paradox: Nobody wants to invest in a 70-year test, and the Food and Drug Administration won't approve a chemical's use without thorough testing. There's a potential shortcut: Researchers are testing compounds thought to thwart aging on Alzheimer's patients to see if they slow the degradation of neurons. And similar human trials will begin soon on diabetes patients.

    "However, many of these studies are still in the development phase, still being tested in rodent models," Carter said. "I expect that this field will begin to explode in the next few years. Caution is still merited given the need for extensive study of these compounds as to their efficacy and long-term safety."

    Eventually, Ravussin thinks the combined efforts of all these research angles could extend lifespans by 15 years later this century.

    In a society where lifespan has already increased significantly in recent decades, many people are at least as concerned with aging well as they are with living long.

    "Many researchers are focusing on the effects of CR on health-span as opposed lifespan," Carter said. "We know that small reductions in caloric intake, even as little as 8 percent, result in improvements in health related outcomes."

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    hmmm, quite interesting. my question is... since most of here are very fit and eat healthy, although we eat ALOT!! Will those 2 things cancel themselves out? Eating healthy, workout out, and using anabolics to live longer. Then eating alot, and living less? lol? I dont know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    hmmm, quite interesting. my question is... since most of here are very fit and eat healthy, although we eat ALOT!! Will those 2 things cancel themselves out? Eating healthy, workout out, and using anabolics to live longer. Then eating alot, and living less? lol? I dont know.
    your methods are not prolonging life or slowing aging, it is jsut improving the quality of life you have while you have it... although with anabolics healthy eating and growth hormone , you heal better, faster, etc... the actual process of each cell aging does not stop or slow down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    hmmm, quite interesting. my question is... since most of here are very fit and eat healthy, although we eat ALOT!! Will those 2 things cancel themselves out? Eating healthy, workout out, and using anabolics to live longer. Then eating alot, and living less? lol? I dont know.
    Who cares I just want to get laid the way I am getting laid....How long will I live????? Who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    hmmm, quite interesting. my question is... since most of here are very fit and eat healthy, although we eat ALOT!! Will those 2 things cancel themselves out? Eating healthy, workout out, and using anabolics to live longer. Then eating alot, and living less? lol? I dont know.
    their argument goes something like this......


    my professor said cancer starts in everybody 15 times a day about. thing is, our bodies 99.9999 percent of the time catch it and stop it. unfortunately, it just takes one slip. The higher metabolic rate, the more frequently cells are dividing.

    so 2 things

    1. the less often cells are dividing, the longer you are going to live basically. (when cells divide, teliomeres shorten.....so logically, the less they are dividing, the slower they are shrinking)
    2. the less often cells are dividing, the fewer oppertunities cancer will have to start and not get caught.

    so number 2, really, is all chance, and no gaurentee.......and number 1, I really have to question of that modest reduction in metabolic rate will really have that big of an impact in "HUMANS". I am calling bullshit on that little bit of a reduction in metabolic rate will have a "significant" impact on humans.


    so in summery, I am calling BULLSHIT on this BULLSHIT. anorexic bow tie wearing mother ****ers can go ahead and eat less and look shitty, to each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronReload04 View Post
    their argument goes something like this......


    my professor said cancer starts in everybody 15 times a day about. thing is, our bodies 99.9999 percent of the time catch it and stop it. unfortunately, it just takes one slip. The higher metabolic rate, the more frequently cells are dividing.

    so 2 things

    1. the less often cells are dividing, the longer you are going to live basically. (when cells divide, teliomeres shorten.....so logically, the less they are dividing, the slower they are shrinking)
    2. the less often cells are dividing, the fewer oppertunities cancer will have to start and not get caught.

    so number 2, really, is all chance, and no gaurentee.......and number 1, I really have to question of that modest reduction in metabolic rate will really have that big of an impact in "HUMANS". I am calling bullshit on that little bit of a reduction in metabolic rate will have a "significant" impact on humans.


    so in summery, I am calling BULLSHIT on this BULLSHIT. anorexic bow tie wearing mother ****ers can go ahead and eat less and look shitty, to each his own.

    i'm not smalll nor do i look shitty... i happen to be in better shape then most at my gym... the basics of all this cant be denied just like i said, look at any country that has very little food to go around, and those that dont die of starvation live to be 100 years old... or more... i grow muscles just as well as anyone else...

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    I saw the same stuff on the discovery channel. I would rather eat, look good, and die a few years younger; actually, i`m not looking foward to living to be old as hell. I`d rather die while I can still take care of myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsinur7 View Post
    i'm not smalll nor do i look shitty... i happen to be in better shape then most at my gym... the basics of all this cant be denied just like i said, look at any country that has very little food to go around, and those that dont die of starvation live to be 100 years old... or more... i grow muscles just as well as anyone else...
    their is just to many variables......correlation does not mean causation. One example off the tip of my head.....How about stress. Or how about pollution. I understand your point. But you must also consider that the 100 year old guy in the country with little food to go around probably

    -does not have the stress that comes with a westernized life style

    -is not exposed to the chemicals, carcinogens, pollution that a westernized individual has


    so, those are just 2 variables off the tip of my head, it probably goes on into infinity





    on that hand........is it really restricted calories???????? or is it less carcinogens, chemicals, pollution?????????

    did the chicken or the egg come first?????? thats one reason I think the whole argument is flawed? its impossible to prove.

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    double post, dont see a delete button

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsinur7 View Post
    i'm not smalll nor do i look shitty... i happen to be in better shape then most at my gym... the basics of all this cant be denied just like i said, look at any country that has very little food to go around, and those that dont die of starvation live to be 100 years old... or more... i grow muscles just as well as anyone else...
    o, and my apologies of coming off like a dick. I didnt use good wording and it may have been offensive.

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    i've lived on a restricted calorie diet for over 15 years now... it works... the basic principle is with only enough food to survive, your body does not have thge means to age, split cells etc... so the aging process is slowed... the lifespan in lab animals has even doubled in some cases... ever wonder why americans die in there 50's 60, 70's with all we have and if you look at any of these poor countries with barely any food you see people all over that are 100 years old... calorie restriction... i still look damn near the same as i did when i was 20 while everyone around me looks their age or older...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsinur7 View Post
    i've lived on a restricted calorie diet for over 15 years now... it works... the basic principle is with only enough food to survive, your body does not have thge means to age, split cells etc... so the aging process is slowed... the lifespan in lab animals has even doubled in some cases... ever wonder why americans die in there 50's 60, 70's with all we have and if you look at any of these poor countries with barely any food you see people all over that are 100 years old... calorie restriction... i still look damn near the same as i did when i was 20 while everyone around me looks their age or older...

    So you don't grow any muscles? Always on a restricted diet?

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    if your diet consists of just whatyou need, you can grow just fine... oi can still eat all the becessary protien needed to grow muscles without exceding 1200 calories day.. like my fish fillets, 100 calories each, 17g protien in each, i can eat 10 of those a day and some other foods... just an example, i spread the menu more thn that, but i only eat to survive, not to endulge... i'm 5/10 200 pounds... all muscle.... im not a body builder, but i have plenty of muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsinur7 View Post
    if your diet consists of just whatyou need, you can grow just fine... oi can still eat all the becessary protien needed to grow muscles without exceding 1200 calories day.. like my fish fillets, 100 calories each, 17g protien in each, i can eat 10 of those a day and some other foods... just an example, i spread the menu more thn that, but i only eat to survive, not to endulge... i'm 5/10 200 pounds... all muscle.... im not a body builder, but i have plenty of muscle
    so you coming to our bachelor party weekend on labor day mr. muscle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    so you coming to our bachelor party weekend on labor day mr. muscle?
    i dont know if i'd fit through the door with my huge arms... lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsinur7 View Post
    i dont know if i'd fit through the door with my huge arms... lol...
    you can stay in the hallway. we are going to end up makin the whole hotel floor into a party anways.

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    well im going to continue to eat, eat, eat and grow. then die younger. no biggie.

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    consistant exercise has shown to decrease aging as well. I don't mean you just look younger, the dna is actually in better shape by up to ten years in people who frequently exercise.

    I might die young, you don't see to many guys who are 6'3'' make it to 100 years old. It's always the 5'6'' geezers that weigh about 100lbs. Calorie restriction? Yeah, Maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    consistant exercise has shown to decrease aging as well. I don't mean you just look younger, the dna is actually in better shape by up to ten years in people who frequently exercise.

    I might die young, you don't see to many guys who are 6'3'' make it to 100 years old. It's always the 5'6'' geezers that weigh about 100lbs. Calorie restriction? Yeah, Maybe
    damn. im 6'3 also. its bullshit i tell ya! bullshit!!

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    Well it does make sense, less food eaten = less work done by vital organs and therefore surely they wont get worn out as quickly. Personally I dont give a crap and would rather die a middle aged monster with all my own teeth than a frail old weakling.

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    if your diet is right, you can lose BF% and slowly gain muscle like I have been doing for a while now.

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    calorie restriction=living smaller

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    no biggy... true there are variables, but the restricted calories makes sense to me and being n it so long like i have and seeing the aging difference between me and my friends backs up the thory for me... but you are correct, there can be many things going on... to each their own i guess.

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    all good issues that you guys brought up. all i can say is.. i will not cut calories!! i like food!

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    one word, Asian people live the longest cause they eat asian food.

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    think of it in terms of mileage..the metabolism adding the miles to the body..

    the less you eat the less miles you have..therefore living longer.

    hindu philosophy figured this out many moons ago.

    ...but i believe quality is better than quantity...meaning i want to look good
    and muscular for as long as I can...rather than being skinny and maybe living a
    few yrs longer..
    cause with a muscular body means the ladies will pay more attention to me..
    therfore cause me to feel great and sex can add years to your life as well..so we
    may actually live to the same.

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    lol lol lol lol dean

    what good are those extra years anyway????? you will be all old and saying to yourself, aw man, i wish i would have ****ed hotter ***** while I had the chance. I wish I would have looked like a god while I had the chance.....wish i would have been huge while I had the chance...

    besides, sex can add years to your life.....and muscles and lifting weights makes me a God damn sexual tyranisaurus.

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    That's probably why does short as hell japanse ladies live so long, consuming 5000kcal a day = Probably dying at 60-70..

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