Deads and squats same week

[DSM4Life]

Do you guys squat and dead in the same week ? Seems for me at least that come fri i can still feel soreness from my tuesday squats.

[Amorphic]

definitely not. too much stress on my body and i need the recovery time.

[RuhlFreak55]

i definitely do.......whenever back comes up i dead......whenever legs come up i squat........back was yesterday, legs are tomorrow.....and i'm fine

[Doc.Sust]

i do. works fine. try this squat and dead on the same day. i know it sounds crazy but it gives you six days of rest before the next session. you can do one light and one heavy and alternate every other wk or both moderate. hell i do both heavy and it works fine. you have to cut the volume down on this day. i would squat , dead pick one more auxillary lift maybe some quick abs and out the door i would go

[RussianVodka]

I do.Works great for me. Back on Sunday, legs on Wednesday.

[Doc.Sust]

currently i am doing this,
saturdays

suited squats

3-6 sets of 1- 3 reps

band deads, using about 50% of my max weight for 3 sets of 3's

hamstring curls or hypers 2 -3 sets of 10;s

weighted abs


mondays

suited deads
3- 5 sets of 2-3 reps

platform pulls or rack deads 2- 3 sets of 5 reps

raw squats, 3 sets of 3 with 60% of my raw max

[DSM4Life]

currently i am doing this,
saturdays

suited squats

3-6 sets of 1- 3 reps

band deads, using about 50% of my max weight for 3 sets of 3's

hamstring curls or hypers 2 -3 sets of 10;s

weighted abs


mondays

suited deads
3- 5 sets of 2-3 reps

platform pulls or rack deads 2- 3 sets of 5 reps

raw squats, 3 sets of 3 with 60% of my raw max

Are you trying to make me into a powerlifter ?

[Doc.Sust]

Are you trying to make me into a powerlifter ?

always!

[RuhlFreak55]

*laughs* you powerlifters and all your math.......

[Doc.Sust]

*laughs* you powerlifters and all your math.......

lol! i dont use as much math as i used to. i just have a range and approx percentage i need to handle for certain workouts when i get closer to a contest. in the old days i had each day mapped out exactly to what i was going to do. now i play a lot by how i feel or what feels wk or needs work

[RuhlFreak55]

lol! i dont use as much math as i used to. i just have a range and approx percentage i need to handle for certain workouts when i get closer to a contest. in the old days i had each day mapped out exactly to what i was going to do. now i play a lot by how i feel or what feels wk or needs work

i should prolly try that for my deadlift....i wanna get it up to 675

[Narkissos]

I do deads and squats on the same day as well.

And, depending my training cycle... Sometimes both twice per week.

-CNS

[DSM4Life]

Hmmm maybe i should try that.

So what if i
squat
dead
Then pick one/two isolated movements for each. You think thats enough volume for the week for them two muscles ?

[Doc.Sust]

i should prolly try that for my deadlift....i wanna get it up to 675

the math really helps a lot for the dead. prevents you from over training. IMO the biggest reason peoples deadlifts get stuck. try to the follow the prieplins table and never do more than the required reps and set pre percentage of weight that you are using

[Doc.Sust]

Hmmm maybe i should try that.

So what if i
squat
dead
Then pick one/two isolated movements for each. You think thats enough volume for the week for them two muscles ?

i would do a 2nd day with some more light iso movements and auxillaries

[Doc.Sust]

here is what andy bolton does


Wednesday is squat night, starting with bike and stretching same as Monday. For squats I do

10 sets of 3 to 8 reps, working up to 410kg before a show. I work mainly on explosive power always squatting with as much explosive power as possible.

After squats I do 1/4 squats to a box these are done every alt wk and are stopped 5 wks out. The weights I use are 455kg(1000lbs) for 3 reps after which I proceed onto deadlift. I do 10 sets of 3 to 5 reps working up to 362.5kg/800lbs for 3 reps, 3 weeks out from a show but always pulling the weight as fast as possible. Next is partial deadlifts pulled from shin height, these are done using straps as the key here is explosive power and not grip. The maximum weight I have done on these is 470kg/1036lbs 3reps and 420kg/922lbs for 10reps. That’s wednesday done.


Friday is only a assistance day again starting with bike and stretching then onto:

Lying leg curls 4 sets 8/10reps

Single leg curls 2 sets 8/10reps

Leg ex 3 sets 12/20 reps

Leg press max weightt 600kg 20 reps

Seated calf raises 2 sets 20 reps


Barbell shrugs 4 sets 10/12 reps max weightt used 410kg/900lbs

Hammer rows single arm 3 sets 8/10reps max weightt used 200kg

Vbar pulldowns 3 sets 8/10reps


Dumbbell concentration curl 3 sets 12 done for pump only

Dumbbell hammer curls 3 sets 10reps max weightt done 130lb

Abs floor crunches 4 sets 10/12reps

[audis4]

i should prolly try that for my deadlift....i wanna get it up to 675

holy shit ruhl, what are you deading now bro??

I hit 585 2 wks ago, I thought thats what you hit too

[I_Want_Abs]

I squat and deadlift (rackpull now for a while) in the same week, i also train every muscle group twice each week

[green22]

On weeks that I do deads, Ill use leg press as main movement.
If I Squat, then I use BB rows on back day.
So I alternate back and forth.

[BG]

I dead on wed and squat on sat, no problems, gives my lower back strength for heavy buckets.

[RuhlFreak55]

holy shit ruhl, what are you deading now bro??

I hit 585 2 wks ago, I thought thats what you hit too

585.....it's just one more plate though.....i better be able to hit that in 6 months

[tadpoleboyy]

its usually takes 2-3 days till the soreness from the squats/leg day really hits. So i suppose you could do them the day after, or wait like 5-6 days

[rockinred]

Been doing squats on Tuesdays and Deads on Thursday for quite some years.... I work pretty heavy on both.....it can be done... all a matter of preference..

[SMCengineer]

I squat and dead 5 days apart.

[IronReload04]

If I do one and only one all out set for deadlifts (I personally can get away with 2)......on monday, come friday I will for sure be 100% recovered from the deadlifts. 90-99% recovered by thursday. and If i really wanted to, i could squat on wednesday, and it would be fine and I could probably make progress over time doing that, but i might not be squatting to my full potential, maybe something like 90-95 percent of what I could normally do.


I promise you though, 1 set with true blood and guts intensity is more than an adequate stimulus to grow, its just not accepted by everyone.

[IronReload04]

I squat and dead 5 days apart.

so is that monday and friday......

or would that be

monday..........tues 1, wed 2, thurs 3, fri 4, sat 5.........and sunday

?

[IronReload04]

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[one8nine]

i have an all squat day like 10 sets of 10-20 reps then later same for deads. also a whole day for cleans too, same way.

but im mma/wrestling so a little different world

[Gears]

I only SLDL, so I do it on leg day which includes squats. I squat heavy and my back hardly every acts up.

[MBaraso]

i do. works fine. try this squat and dead on the same day. i know it sounds crazy but it gives you six days of rest before the next session. you can do one light and one heavy and alternate every other wk or both moderate. hell i do both heavy and it works fine. you have to cut the volume down on this day. i would squat , dead pick one more auxillary lift maybe some quick abs and out the door i would go

Doc sus needs to call me lol

[IronReload04]

i have tried deading and squating on the same day. NOt a big fan of it personally.

[SMCengineer]

so is that monday and friday......

or would that be

monday..........tues 1, wed 2, thurs 3, fri 4, sat 5.........and sunday

?

It changes because I workout four days a week with a day off in between each workout. So if squats fall on a Monday than I dead or rack deadlift that Friday, but than my next week starts on Sunday and I'll squat on Tuesday.

[Hoggage_54]

what's a squat?

[audis4]

585.....it's just one more plate though.....i better be able to hit that in 6 months

ya me too! I should be able to by next year sometime

[Dukkit]

what's a squat?

type of vegetable

[Hoggage_54]

type of vegetable

If it's not a pizza topping, I don't know it

[Carlos_E]

Do you guys squat and dead in the same week ?

Yes!

[DSM4Life]

Well i did deads and squats same day and it went good. Lower back really got a good pump.
I did 5x5 for squats
rack deads
ham ext and leg ext

Tomorrow i will do chest/upper back
then later in the week ill hit legs again but nothing crazy.

Next week i will go a little lighter on the squats and hit deads hard and off the floor.

[IronReload04]

It changes because I workout four days a week with a day off in between each workout. So if squats fall on a Monday than I dead or rack deadlift that Friday, but than my next week starts on Sunday and I'll squat on Tuesday.

i understand how that goes.....but ya, 3 days seperating the workouts, and I am 100 percent. thing is though that I train doggcrapp. SO alot of times I am deadlifting on say monday and then doing legs on wed. i have things so they are opposite weeks though.

for all intent and purpose, monday and friday seems to be the mark for most people.

[SMCengineer]

i understand how that goes.....but ya, 3 days seperating the workouts, and I am 100 percent. thing is though that I train doggcrapp. SO alot of times I am deadlifting on say monday and then doing legs on wed. i have things so they are opposite weeks though.

for all intent and purpose, monday and friday seems to be the mark for most people.

I like DC training. I've tried it a few times with good results, but my body seemed to overtrain after a few a blasts.