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    Democracy= Slavery. Don't believe it?

    Watch this video interview. It will become clear that this is fact within the first 10 minutes or so.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...th+aaron+russo

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    “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

    -Thomas Jefferson

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    Its obvious that something is going on. The elites in the world always looked at the people as instruments to make them richer. I see some logic in Aaron Russo's statements.

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    Democracy IS mob rule. You are right.

    Thats why the U.S. is a democratic republic, not a democracy. Imagine that!! What your government school teachers have been telling you is not true!!! wow!!!

    Of course, Ive had teachers teach me incorrect grammar my whole life too. "axe" instead of ask. "Crowns" instead of Crayons. The list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diary of a Mad-man View Post
    Democracy IS mob rule. You are right.

    Thats why the U.S. is a democratic republic, not a democracy. Imagine that!! What your government school teachers have been telling you is not true!!! wow!!!

    Of course, Ive had teachers teach me incorrect grammar my whole life too. "axe" instead of ask. "Crowns" instead of Crayons. The list goes on.
    Good god, what school did you go to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

    -Thomas Jefferson

    OMG! That should get people going here. I can hear it now "Democracy is the best form of government ever bla bla bla"

    In reality, the founding fathers hated the idea of democracy and not once is "Democracy" mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.

    They get everyone so caught up in "This poll says this, this poll says that"...


    Thomas Jefferson was right, just who in the **** are these 51% think they are to tell me how to life my life as long as I do nothing illegal or hurt anyone else? Honestly, everyone has been bombarded with "Democracy" since we were kids, only those who choose to educate themselves know that Decmocracy is a farce. I can honestly say I did not know American wasn't a Democracy just a few years ago. It is all you are ever taught.

    Might be why they no longer say the pledge of allegiance?

    "And to the Republic, for which it stands"

    Of course there are more reasons to keep the pledge of allegiance out of schools etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    Its obvious that something is going on. The elites in the world always looked at the people as instruments to make them richer. I see some logic in Aaron Russo's statements.
    It really was tough to lose Aaron Russo, he was in a position to wake alot of people up and he did. I credit him for waking me up to the Federal Reserve System and the Monetary Policies.

    Not even sure now how I first heard him...i'm certainly glad I did though.

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    Capatalism = Socialism = Communism. It`s only a matter of time before the gen pop realise this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gears View Post
    Capatalism = Socialism = Communism. It`s only a matter of time before the gen pop realise this.
    Whens the last time you stood in line for toilet paper? Whens the last time you made a boat out of a 1950 chevy truck and got eaten by a shark to escape capitalism?

    In communism for example, DSM and I would get paid the same at our desk jobs, but DSM would be looking at BREAK.COM all day while I was pushing pencils. That isnt fair. Or wait, maybe YOU would be the one pushing pencils DSM.


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    If you don`t know anything about social systems I could see how you would make that sort of comment, socialism is a transitional step into communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gears View Post
    If you don`t know anything about social systems I could see how you would make that sort of comment, socialism is a transitional step into communism.
    OOOHHHH! What a snide little comment. Thank you Mr. Smarmy.

    ummmm, yep, dont get ahead of yourself. I dont even really know what your vague comment means, but I am aware that socialism and communism are similar. They are not however capitalism........SERIOUSLY WHAT POINT ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE?

    Yeah, I get it, socialism, communism both = wealth redistribution and state ran everything. State medical care, state news agencies.

    I can see where you would make that kind of comment when you were just dying to defend your silly opinion.

    Bash Capitalism all you want. It is the worst form of economy/government, except for all the others that have been tried.

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    Our capatilism IS a socialism, get it now?

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    Next time you don`t understand my vague comment, ask me to clarift and I will gladly. I would also suggest you do that before you contradict a point you don`t even understand i`m trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gears View Post
    Our capatilism IS a socialism, get it now?


    sounds good, just keep putting words on paper over and over again

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    Democracy is a paradox. It's supposed to stand for freedom but that's a joke. There is a word for true freedom and it's called Anarchy.

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    and since we know thats not the case i dont have to watch the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diary of a Mad-man View Post
    Whens the last time you stood in line for toilet paper? Whens the last time you made a boat out of a 1950 chevy truck and got eaten by a shark to escape capitalism?

    In communism for example, DSM and I would get paid the same at our desk jobs, but DSM would be looking at BREAK.COM all day while I was pushing pencils. That isnt fair. Or wait, maybe YOU would be the one pushing pencils DSM.

    Could this happen because the USA has an embargo over Cuba? Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diary of a Mad-man View Post
    Whens the last time you stood in line for toilet paper?
    Every time I go to the grocery store

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    10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools.

    According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism (the above 3 and 7 others)

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    SOCIALISM?
    What are some of the political reforms and public policies advocated by socialists and their allies on the road to full socialism?

    Consider what a top socialist leader advocated in 1922:

    WE DEMAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT UNDERTAKE THE OBLIGATION ABOVE ALL OF PROVIDING CITIZENS WITH ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT AND EARNING A LIVING.

    THE ACTIVITIES OF THE INDIVIDUAL MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO CLASH WITH THE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT MUST TAKE PLACE WITHIN ITS CONFINES AND BE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL ...

    WE DEMAND THE NATIONALIZATION OF ALL BUSINESSES WHICH HAVE BEEN AMALGAMATED (INTO TRUSTS).

    WE DEMAND THAT THE STATE SHALL SHARE IN THE PFOFITS OF LARGE INDUSTRIES.

    WE DEMAND THAT PROVISION FOR THE AGED SHALL BE MADE ON A VERY GREATLY INCREASED SCALE.

    WE DEMAND A LAND-REFORM SUITABLE TO OUR NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, THE PASSING OF A LAW FOR THE CONFISCATION OF LAND FOR COMMUNAL PURPOSES; THE ABOLITION OF INTEREST ON MORTGAGES, AND PROHIBITION OF ALL SPECULATION IN LAND.

    WE DEMAND AN AGRARIAN REFORM SUITABLE TO OUR NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS; THE ENACTMENT OF A LAW TO EXPROPRIATE WITHOUT COMPENSATION THE OWNERS OF ANY LAND THAT MAY BE NEEDED FOR NATIONAL PURPOSES; THE ABOLITION OF GROUND RENTS; AND THE PROHIBITION OF ALL SPECULATION IN LAND.

    ...THE STATE SHALL ORGANIZE THOROUGHLY THE WHOLE CULTURAL SYSTEM OF THE NATION . . . THE CONCEPTION OF THE STATE IDEA (THE SCIENCE OF CITIZENSHIP) SHALL BE TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. WE DEMAND THAT SPECIALLY TALENTED CHILDREN OF POOR PARENTS, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR STATION OR OCCUPATION, SHALL BE EDUCATED AT THE COST OF THE STATE.

    IT IS THE DUTY OF THE STATE TO HELP RAISE THE STANDARD OF THE NATION'S HEALTH BY PROVIDING MATERNITY WELFARE CENTRES, BY PROHIBITING JUVENILE LABOUR, BY INCREASING PHYSICAL FITNESS THROUGH THE INTRODUCTION OF COMPULSORY GAMES AND GYMNASTICS. . . .

    (WE) COMBAT THE MATERIALISTIC SPIRIT WITHIN AND OUTSIDE US, AND ARE CONVINCED THAT A PERMANENT RECOVERY OF OUR PEOPLE CAN ONLY PROCEED WITHIN ON THE FOUNDATION OF "THE COMMON GOOD BEFORE THE INDIVIDUAL GOOD."

    -- From the "Twenty-Five Point" Programme of the German National Socialist Workers Party, authored by Adolf Hitler and others on February 24, 1920. (Konrad Heiden's translation in A History of National Socialism)

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    This democracy is a fraud. Its stupid that everyone can vote. Only qualified people should vote. Its even more stupid that the winner is the one who's picked by the majority. Since when is majority=best/true?. We all know the majority of people are stupid. A liberal (libertarian for those of you American) dictatorship would be better.

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    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...29053600562261

    Welcome to democracy .

    Make sure you dont watch it before bed you wont be able to sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    Could this happen because the USA has an embargo over Cuba? Think about it.
    The only thing you are right about, is the fact that they dont have NEWER chevy's because of the embargo.

    Other than that, the country is a shit hole because the leader spends most of the countries money on himself while every citizen gets a monthly ration of toilet paper and band-aids....where we are headed with obama healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gears View Post
    Our capatilism IS a socialism, get it now?
    I cant fine the verbatim quote but it goes some thing like "all Capitalist societies will eventually become communist ones" Karl Ma**. But your right gears we are in a form of socialism right now and its getting worse... here I am torn between McCain hoping his jackass will keep us capitalist and conservative(monetarily that is) but is a freaking loony and scares the hell outa me I think we may be nuking people with him in office. Or obama the hopes that he will promote peace. But with a democratically controlled congress snip the last threads of capitalism we're holding on to. Either way the US is going to be changed severely and not for the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diary of a Mad-man View Post
    The only thing you are right about, is the fact that they dont have NEWER chevy's because of the embargo.

    Other than that, the country is a shit hole because the leader spends most of the countries money on himself while every citizen gets a monthly ration of toilet paper and band-aids....where we are headed with obama healthcare.
    No. Where we are headed is the North American Union- with the new currency being the Amero, just like they did in Europe with the European Union. Gee, I wonder how much more that will squash our constitutional rights. Maybe you should check out non-mainstream media to learn some stuff rather than lapping up what is spoon fed to you from your tv to your couch.

    Ever heard of the Bilderberg Group? They are the ultra rich elite who really control things, they come from all across the planet to meet together annually. They don't play democrat vs. repubican... that's just the propaganda they put on the boob tube to psychologically manipulate the masses. They don't care about dem or repub they care about rich vs not rich. Powerful vs. not powerful.

    I recommend you take it upon yourself to educate yourself rather than relying on the controlled and contrived bs the mainstream media (that is controlled by like 5 people) pipes into your living room.
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    Okay, I think I can sum up how everyone is feeling in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlgh46Qr6es

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    regardless of how you label it, the smarter humans have been misleading the dumber humans in pursuit of profit and power for thousands of years.

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