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    racism, you tell me

    its a freakin shame, the team i coach is 90% poor and non-white, we played, the rich white boys at there school with a new jumbo tron, on the "other side" of the parish. we had 3 touch downs, and 1 extra point conversion called back by a all white ref squad. the school didnt have a bench for our team to sit or water. at half time, no locker room was offered. this was our first lost and puts 3 teams tied for 1st with 1 game left in the season. we get grades this week and we will lose 4 starters. bros, i tell yall, the white part of me was ashamed for the way our team was treated.

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    yeah thats not on hey,thats bs bro!

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    excuse my ignorance, but what is a "jumbo tron" ? I am not American

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    Its OK I googled it. Damn I want one of those at home !!

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    How is them being without = racism ?
    Does the school have two football teams

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    Come on wascaptain ...... it wasn't racism .... it was classism. Rich v Poor

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    Quote Originally Posted by wascaptain5214 View Post
    its a freakin shame, the team i coach is 90% poor and non-white, we played, the rich white boys at there school with a new jumbo tron, on the "other side" of the parish. we had 3 touch downs, and 1 extra point conversion called back by a all white ref squad. the school didnt have a bench for our team to sit or water. at half time, no locker room was offered. this was our first lost and puts 3 teams tied for 1st with 1 game left in the season. we get grades this week and we will lose 4 starters. bros, i tell yall, the white part of me was ashamed for the way our team was treated.
    do they normally have benches and a locker room for other visiting teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by wascaptain5214 View Post
    its a freakin shame, the team i coach is 90% poor and non-white, we played, the rich white boys at there school with a new jumbo tron, on the "other side" of the parish. we had 3 touch downs, and 1 extra point conversion called back by a all white ref squad. the school didnt have a bench for our team to sit or water. at half time, no locker room was offered. this was our first lost and puts 3 teams tied for 1st with 1 game left in the season. we get grades this week and we will lose 4 starters. bros, i tell yall, the white part of me was ashamed for the way our team was treated.
    All I can do is shake my head and feel sorry. I hear you bro not with the kids..... its just shameful.

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    I'm sorry to hear that.

    Unfortunately, things like that still do take place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wascaptain5214 View Post
    its a freakin shame, the team i coach is 90% poor and non-white, we played, the rich white boys at there school with a new jumbo tron, on the "other side" of the parish. we had 3 touch downs, and 1 extra point conversion called back by a all white ref squad. the school didnt have a bench for our team to sit or water. at half time, no locker room was offered. this was our first lost and puts 3 teams tied for 1st with 1 game left in the season. we get grades this week and we will lose 4 starters. bros, i tell yall, the white part of me was ashamed for the way our team was treated.

    You might want to kill yourself for all that the "White" man has done to the poor Black man.


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    I think it is racist to assume all white people are rich, and all rich white people are racist. Rich white people are the ones that are getting Obama elected.

    Im white and I am poor as shit....LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    How is them being without = racism ?
    Does the school have two football teams
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    How do you know they don't treat ALL the visiting teams like this?
    I'd say it has less to do with your team being black than it does with them just being assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I think it is racist to assume all white people are rich, and all rich white people are racist. Rich white people are the ones that are getting Obama elected.

    Im white and I am poor as shit....LOL
    I don't think he was assuming that. So don't jump to conclusions.

    With that being said, I could see how one would assume racism in this situation but what needs to be examined 1st is how are other teams treated? But with regards to the refs...now there is an issue for closer examination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    I don't think he was assuming that. So don't jump to conclusions.
    I was being sarcastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    Racism will always exist until the day you and I see a man walking down the street..

    not a white man, black, brown or red man..

    but a man..
    "man", homo sapiens, just as any other animal, is a specie and withing this specie there are different races and mixes of races. Just as it happens with other animals, like dogs for example.

    I think it won't be possible to ignore that. What it's possible is to not give shit about that. Just as you can ignore the difference between a Chihuahua and a Dalmatian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    LMAO @ some typical BS idea that you should feel bad for being white.
    Yeah dude...shame on us... lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voland View Post
    "man", homo sapiens, just as any other animal, is a specie and withing this specie there are different races and mixes of races. Just as it happens with other animals, like dogs for example.

    I think it won't be possible to ignore that. What it's possible is to not give shit about that. Just as you can ignore the difference between a Chihuahua and a Dalmatian.
    But i hate dalmatians

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    How is them being without = racism ?
    Does the school have two football teams
    I think the other team knew who they were playing and I think they intentional did not have benches and did not provide a place for them to go at half-time on purpose.

    You can call it unsportsman-like or whatever you want, I say its racist and unsportsmanship.

    It's not that they were without, They made sure that their team had all the ammenities and saw to it that the other team didn't. I would expect nothing less from you DSM from the post you put up last week about two black guys fighting and each other.

    I have played organized sports for 30 years and NEVER in my life did I see the home team have benches and the not the visitors. If they can afford a Jumbo Tron and all the other stuff. They can put a bench on the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeeLo View Post
    I think the other team knew who they were playing and I think they intentional did not have benches and did not provide a place for them to go at half-time on purpose.

    You can call it unsportsman-like or whatever you want, I say its racist and unsportsmanship.

    It's not that they were without, They made sure that their team had all the ammenities and saw to it that the other team didn't. I would expect nothing less from you DSM from the post you put up last week about two black guys fighting and each other.

    I have played organized sports for 30 years and NEVER in my life did I see the home team have benches and the not the visitors. If they can afford a Jumbo Tron and all the other stuff. They can put a bench on the other side.
    are you serious?? do you really belive they removed the seating for one game then put it back for the next? doubtful since most are cemented in
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    I am dead serious. How do you know they are cemented in? We are talking about benches and not bleachers. They don't cement benches in.

    Do you attend school there? I would bet you money they could have placed an extra bench or two over there for the visiting team. If they can't afford benches for the visiting team, they should take the Jumbo Tron back.

    Don't act ignorant and turn your back to this epidemic like most. It is ignorance that this country is in the state that it is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTenderloin View Post
    But i hate dalmatians
    A dalmatian puppy is now crying. You must be so proud.

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    First of all we don't know if that happens to all visiting teams so its difficult to say if it was racism or not. I wouldn't jump into conclusions so fast. I think they just like to show off what they have just like any rich person.

    On a side note, it shocks me to see how easily people call racism when a white person does something "unpleasant" to a black one, but the contrary does not happen.

    Another example is these two sentences I have seen in many t-shirts and a few other places: "Black Pride" and "Stop black on black crime". If I don't see a problem with the first one because one should be proud of what he was born (I don't even want to imagine what would happen if was seen wearing a white pride shirt), the 2nd phrase is pure racism against anyone that is not black but no one points that out.

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    That's unfortunate. You'll just have to make sure and beat them next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post
    are you serious?? do you really belive they removed the seating for one game then put it back for the next? doubtful since most are cemented in
    sideline benches are never cemented in that's a safety hazard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    First of all we don't know if that happens to all visiting teams so its difficult to say if it was racism or not. I wouldn't jump into conclusions so fast. I think they just like to show off what they have just like any rich person.

    On a side note, it shocks me to see how easily people call racism when a white person does something "unpleasant" to a black one, but the contrary does not happen.

    Another example is these two sentences I have seen in many t-shirts and a few other places: "Black Pride" and "Stop black on black crime". If I don't see a problem with the first one because one should be proud of what he was born (I don't even want to imagine what would happen if was seen wearing a white pride shirt), the 2nd phrase is pure racism against anyone that is not black but no one points that out.
    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    First of all we don't know if that happens to all visiting teams so its difficult to say if it was racism or not. I wouldn't jump into conclusions so fast. I think they just like to show off what they have just like any rich person.

    On a side note, it shocks me to see how easily people call racism when a white person does something "unpleasant" to a black one, but the contrary does not happen.

    Another example is these two sentences I have seen in many t-shirts and a few other places: "Black Pride" and "Stop black on black crime". If I don't see a problem with the first one because one should be proud of what he was born (I don't even want to imagine what would happen if was seen wearing a white pride shirt), the 2nd phrase is pure racism against anyone that is not black but no one points that out.
    How is "Stop Black on Black crime" racists? Its a statement of a problem in some black communities and drawing attention to blacks about that particular problem. How is that racism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    First of all we don't know if that happens to all visiting teams so its difficult to say if it was racism or not. I wouldn't jump into conclusions so fast. I think they just like to show off what they have just like any rich person.

    On a side note, it shocks me to see how easily people call racism when a white person does something "unpleasant" to a black one, but the contrary does not happen.

    Another example is these two sentences I have seen in many t-shirts and a few other places: "Black Pride" and "Stop black on black crime". If I don't see a problem with the first one because one should be proud of what he was born (I don't even want to imagine what would happen if was seen wearing a white pride shirt), the 2nd phrase is pure racism against anyone that is not black but no one points that out.

    That is totally untrue. Being that you are not Black, I would not expect you to understand the phrase. The phrase speaks to the black people and the balck people only and it makes a point that we should not be killing our own people or committing crimes against our own people. That's it! It has nothing to do with anything else. It does not say go out and commit a crime against another race. It basically says respect your own people. All crime should stop!

    I may agree with the first one somewhat. However it to speaks to the only the black race. After being oppressed for so long, it says that we should have pride in ourselves and hold our heads up.

    Like someone said above, the best thing to do when you see that, is to ignore it. Because it may have nothing to do with you.

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    I think Pride serves many purposes. One, of course, is to really affirm black same-gender-loving people. I think that the other, which was a part of the original purpose the original intent of those who worked on the first D.C. Black Pride was to really raise funds for organizations that were assisting the black LGBT community, in the area on some of the challenges that we faced, particularly around HIV/AIDS but I think now it’s expanded to other issues like caring for our youth. So really a fundraising and awareness building opportunity about both the challenges and opportunities that exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    sideline benches are never cemented in that's a safety hazard.
    thats wierd because there bolted in the cement in the high school stadium were i live so i think you meant to say ther usually never cemented
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeeLo View Post
    That is totally untrue. Being that you are not Black, I would not expect you to understand the phrase. The phrase speaks to the black people and the balck people only and it makes a point that we should not be killing our own people or committing crimes against our own people. That's it! It has nothing to do with anything else. It does not say go out and commit a crime against another race. It basically says respect your own people. All crime should stop!

    I may agree with the first one somewhat. However it to speaks to the only the black race. After being oppressed for so long, it says that we should have pride in ourselves and hold our heads up.

    Like someone said above, the best thing to do when you see that, is to ignore it. Because it may have nothing to do with you.

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    What should be the purpose of Black Pride?

    I think Pride serves many purposes. One, of course, is to really affirm black same-gender-loving people. I think that the other, which was a part of the original purpose the original intent of those who worked on the first D.C. Black Pride was to really raise funds for organizations that were assisting the black LGBT community, in the area on some of the challenges that we faced, particularly around HIV/AIDS but I think now it’s expanded to other issues like caring for our youth. So really a fundraising and awareness building opportunity about both the challenges and opportunities that exist.
    I think you missed my point.

    I am not against the "Black Pride" phrase. I think we should all be proud of our origins, our race and most of all who we are. What I want to show is that "White Pride" is not seen in the same way "Black Pride" is. "White Pride" is seen as a racist statement while "Black Pride" refers to a people being proud of its race and that is discrimination towards white people.

    As for the "Stop black on black crime". I really think that if this sentence has the meaning you are saying it does, why not just say " Stop crime"? I may be out of context here because I am not american and don't know why and where this came up, but it sure sounds that crime against other races is not so bad. It doesn't say to go and commit crime against other races but makes it sound kind of acceptable. Get my point?

    Finally, either we like it or not racism exists and it comes from every race in the planet. As long as there are different groups there will be some form of discrimination even between people from the same race just because they are different in some way. Its a part of the human nature and we have to learn how to live with it and its pure ingenuity to think this will ever go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    I think you missed my point.

    I am not against the "Black Pride" phrase. I think we should all be proud of our origins, our race and most of all who we are. What I want to show is that "White Pride" is not seen in the same way "Black Pride" is. "White Pride" is seen as a racist statement while "Black Pride" refers to a people being proud of its race and that is discrimination towards white people.
    +1 to what hugo said

    If you see this, you will automatically think of it as a super racist statement
    and not what its just meant to be: being proud of what and who you are, you origins and your culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeeLo View Post
    It's not that they were without, They made sure that their team had all the ammenities and saw to it that the other team didn't. I would expect nothing less from you DSM from the post you put up last week about two black guys fighting and each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
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    I will hug and make up with you DSM, I'm not the one to hold a grudge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    Its a part of the human nature and we have to learn how to live with it and its pure ingenuity to think this will ever go away.
    I agree that there will always be diversity, racism, and discrimination. I also agree that we will have to learn to live with it, but I don't think that I will ever like and will speak against it anytime that I have the opportunnity. Partially because I love to debate and secondly because I want to know why people do the things they do.

    Here is an example of something that happened to me just a few weeks ago. I live in an ALL white town. When I say all white, I mean that I can probably counnt on my two hands all the black people in this town. I had been seeing a car load of white guys parading around town with a confederate flag flying from there car. This was not a small flag but it was huge and you could see it from a mile away. The first day I saw it, I ignored it, but when I saw them doing it again the next day, I followed them until they decided to pull over. I snatched the flag off the car and asked them what the hell they are thinking driving around with that on their car. They had no reason other and was speechless. They were laughing and having a good time while they were driving around town, so they must have thought it was funny. But to me, it was Not so funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
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    I need a hug to, can I have one?

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    Bro....the zebra striped hood on the refs should have been a dead giveaway something was up!! lol

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    sounds like ur looking for something to label as racist...ive seen trucks with a confederate flag on the back before, i dont know many people that would chase them down and steal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTenderloin View Post
    sounds like ur looking for something to label as racist...ive seen trucks with a confederate flag on the back before, i dont know many people that would chase them down and steal it.
    Ain't nothing wrong with flyin Dixie colors! I have and probably will again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by inky-e View Post
    Ain't nothing wrong with flyin Dixie colors! I have and probably will again!
    That would be a funny sight to see a mexican flyin the Rebel flag. That would be like a black person wearing the kkk robe.

    The rebel flag stands for divison of North and South and the south wanted slavery and believed that blacks were less of a man that the white man.

    I bet the guys flyin the rebel flag could care less about a mexican biker.

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