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    A little insight to the US dollar


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    ever since the gold standard stopped backing us currency we have been heading in this direction. Same thing happened to ancient rome..when they stopped using precious metal stores to dictate accurate monetary value it was the beginning of their economic collapse.

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    Ya its gonna fall through the floor.

    But dont worry guys we got bernanke fighting it and our government is working on it.

    The dollar is going to fall regardless there is so so so much wrong with this country.

    Our whole phony credit based consumption economy is like a house of cards. it has an impressive face with our superficial bolongie government stats and all it takes is one card to crash the whole thing down.

    Any attempts from the government to so called fix the mess will be about as effective as trying to repel gravity.

    The government cant do jack shit, all they can do is get out of the way and let business and individuals once again be productive.

    This country needs to get back to producing, and saving to creaste capital by means to increase future production.

    Until this happens nothing will.

    The government has failed this nation. We are riding the road to socialism. The government has taken us from the constitution and shriveled it up and destroyed it. They have ruined our money, stole from the people, over regulated business, discouraged investment, production, destroyed manufacturing and blown up various Central Bank fiat bubbles.

    Unfortunately with a bleeding constitution in need of life support Obama and the Federal Reserve are about to give it the final execution and put this whole thing to a mess.

    Were headed on the road to massive socialism and poverty.

    It's also time to learn that the government is not immune to the laws of economics like individuals are. If your in debt and cant pay it back the solution is not to borrow and spend more. The solution is to being to produce, pay down debt, and save money. Unfortunately were going to do this.

    Along with the coming price fixing and other make shift government policies nothing is going to get better.

    People need to stop believing in lies and believing the government can fix things. All they can do is spread the poverty. The government is not a wealth creator.

    All the government has is a printing press and a gun. All they can do is create inflation (printing money) or holding citizens by coercion for more tax. In other words all they can do is transfer from A to B. They dont create any real wealth.

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    put your money into Australia, ill look after it

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    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Dh07...eature=related
    this guy makes some good points.
    everybody get down! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivingToBeBig View Post
    That guy is a quack, the coin he's showing in that video can be bought online.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

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    bit10:
    This country needs to get back to producing, and saving to creaste capital by means to increase future production.



    This is exactly what has pulled us out of every former economic crisis wehave experienced. The blue color laborer will once again save the economy ...yet vote and protect himself and his interests so poorly after things get better...we will inevitably end up here again ...and his role will be the same. Scary.
    IMO Manufacturing of "Green" products will pave this economic resurrection .....alt energy source (windmills , solar tech,etc) eco friendly vehicles , etc... We need to step to the forefront of manufacturing in the world once again with certain technologies...its has been cars in the past ...then electronics.....then software......
    we'll see ....scary and frustrating how the same mistakes continue to be made and we have to go through the same problems every 2nd or 3rd generation.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalNoobie View Post
    That guy is a quack, the coin he's showing in that video can be bought online.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

    The person in the video i do not know and the reliability i cannot vouch for, im from the uk, but I think you are very niave if you do not believe that the dollar is not going to crash. Your government will brain wash you to thinkning everything is ok. But it only takes a little online research and half a brain to see that your economy is doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivingToBeBig View Post
    The person in the video i do not know and the reliability i cannot vouch for, im from the uk, but I think you are very niave if you do not believe that the dollar is not going to crash. Your government will brain wash you to thinkning everything is ok. But it only takes a little online research and half a brain to see that your economy is doomed.
    If you don't think we are in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis, you're in for a surprise. We are going to take everyone down with us!! Including YOU!!!
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    you are all fools. gold standard has shit all to do with anything. There hasnt been a country on a gold standard in almost a hundred years, and last time i checked the past 100 years were pretty good. And to those who say theres so much wrong with america- I take it you havent traveled much. Its complex issues like these you should stay away from forming an opinion on, if you have no educational background on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    you are all fools. gold standard has shit all to do with anything. There hasnt been a country on a gold standard in almost a hundred years, and last time i checked the past 100 years were pretty good. And to those who say theres so much wrong with america- I take it you havent traveled much. Its complex issues like these you should stay away from forming an opinion on, if you have no educational background on the subject.

    3 recessions 1 depression a variance in unemployment rate from between 4% and 20 % over the course of that 100 years ... social security system headed for collapse ..yeah fvcking great 100 years ...and we are all fools???
    who are you calling fools...what an ass u are! u come on here make half assed statements bouncing from thread to thread...finally u found one where u think u have a clue and instead of making a useful contribution you post this sh*t ...and start it off with an insult ...what a jackass! Then again u never make useful contributions so why am i surprised.....
    Look the collapse of ancient romes economic system ...
    Look at our econmic patterns (hell collapse if u will)...
    they mirror one another...the cessation of the gold standard being one parallel ....gold standards have come and gone ...thats not my main point
    point is we are making the same mistakes they did thousands of years ago that led to their economic collapse and we will get the same result if we do not amend or change our course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    3 recessions 1 depression a variance in unemployment rate from between 4% and 20 % over the course of that 100 years ... social security system headed for collapse ..yeah fvcking great 100 years ...and we are all fools???
    who are you calling fools...what an ass u are! u come on here make half assed statements bouncing from thread to thread...finally u found one where u think u have a clue and instead of making a useful contribution you post this sh*t ...and start it off with an insult ...what a jackass! Then again u never make useful contributions so why am i surprised.....
    Look the collapse of ancient romes economic system ...
    Look at our econmic patterns (hell collapse if u will)...
    they mirror one another...the cessation of the gold standard being one parallel ....gold standards have come and gone ...thats not my main point
    point is we are making the same mistakes they did thousands of years ago that led to their economic collapse and we will get the same result if we do not amend or change our course.
    i find it pretty funny you call me a jackass for insulting your opinion, then go on to do the same to me. You may realize one day that whatever movies or propaganda you are getting this from isnt really any more wise or compelling than mainstream ideas, and that going against the status quo because a video made a really good case for it, doesnt mean its the right thing to do. Economic advisors in the U.S. are infinitely more competent than you or I (especially you) on the subject, and i think thats reason enough to take their position over yours. Your case is weak: hegemons have risen and fallen regardless of their economic ideologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    you are all fools. gold standard has shit all to do with anything. There hasnt been a country on a gold standard in almost a hundred years, and last time i checked the past 100 years were pretty good. And to those who say theres so much wrong with america- I take it you havent traveled much. Its complex issues like these you should stay away from forming an opinion on, if you have no educational background on the subject.
    jimmyinkedup:
    3 recessions 1 depression a variance in unemployment rate from between 4% and 20 % over the course of that 100 years ... social security system headed for collapse ..yeah fvcking great 100 years ...and we are all fools???
    who are you calling fools...what an ass u are! u come on here make half assed statements bouncing from thread to thread...finally u found one where u think u have a clue and instead of making a useful contribution you post this sh*t ...and start it off with an insult ...what a jackass! Then again u never make useful contributions so why am i surprised.....
    Look the collapse of ancient romes economic system ...
    Look at our econmic patterns (hell collapse if u will)...
    they mirror one another...the cessation of the gold standard being one parallel ....gold standards have come and gone ...thats not my main point
    point is we are making the same mistakes they did thousands of years ago that led to their economic collapse and we will get the same result if we do not amend or change our course.


    jiggaman:
    i find it pretty funny you call me a jackass for insulting your opinion, then go on to do the same to me. You may realize one day that whatever movies or propaganda you are getting this from isnt really any more wise or compelling than mainstream ideas, and that going against the status quo because a video made a really good case for it, doesnt mean its the right thing to do. Economic advisors in the U.S. are infinitely more competent than you or I (especially you) on the subject, and i think thats reason enough to take their position over yours. Your case is weak: hegemons have risen and fallen regardless of their economic ideologies.


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    Need i say more...it wasnt your opinion i was pissed about..it was the unecessary insults along with it....unlike you i realize we can all have one and not be a fool because its different than mine. My opinion isnt design to be anything more than that my opinion. Especially compared to the US economic advisers (banner f-ing job they are doing btw ) I stated my opinion in a few posts. Video didnt make shit for gold standard ..i drew a parallel to a situation in history we might take heed of thats all...economic collapse has played a part in the downfall of almost all hegemons (surprised me again - jeopardy or scrabble? *L*) At any rate ..your contribution to the thread was to say we are all fools and america isnt that bad and we dont deserve to form an opinion ...yesah thats a jackass statement dude...keep that rhetoric to yourself...u post something useful cool ....otherwise STFU IMO (another one im entitled to)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    jimmyinkedup:
    3 recessions 1 depression a variance in unemployment rate from between 4% and 20 % over the course of that 100 years ... social security system headed for collapse ..yeah fvcking great 100 years ...and we are all fools???
    who are you calling fools...what an ass u are! u come on here make half assed statements bouncing from thread to thread...finally u found one where u think u have a clue and instead of making a useful contribution you post this sh*t ...and start it off with an insult ...what a jackass! Then again u never make useful contributions so why am i surprised.....
    Look the collapse of ancient romes economic system ...
    Look at our econmic patterns (hell collapse if u will)...
    they mirror one another...the cessation of the gold standard being one parallel ....gold standards have come and gone ...thats not my main point
    point is we are making the same mistakes they did thousands of years ago that led to their economic collapse and we will get the same result if we do not amend or change our course.


    jiggaman:
    i find it pretty funny you call me a jackass for insulting your opinion, then go on to do the same to me. You may realize one day that whatever movies or propaganda you are getting this from isnt really any more wise or compelling than mainstream ideas, and that going against the status quo because a video made a really good case for it, doesnt mean its the right thing to do. Economic advisors in the U.S. are infinitely more competent than you or I (especially you) on the subject, and i think thats reason enough to take their position over yours. Your case is weak: hegemons have risen and fallen regardless of their economic ideologies.


    jimmynkedup:
    Need i say more...it wasnt your opinion i was pissed about..it was the unecessary insults along with it....unlike you i realize we can all have one and not be a fool because its different than mine. My opinion isnt design to be anything more than that my opinion. Especially compared to the US economic advisers (banner f-ing job they are doing btw ) I stated my opinion in a few posts. Video didnt make shit for gold standard ..i drew a parallel to a situation in history we might take heed of thats all...economic collapse has played a part in the downfall of almost all hegemons (surprised me again - jeopardy or scrabble? *L*) At any rate ..your contribution to the thread was to say we are all fools and america isnt that bad and we dont deserve to form an opinion ...yesah thats a jackass statement dude...keep that rhetoric to yourself...u post something useful cool ....otherwise STFU IMO (another one im entitled to)
    you take things too seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    If you don't think we are in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis, you're in for a surprise. We are going to take everyone down with us!! Including YOU!!!
    werd to da g**dam herd biotch. Well said brotha cgb.

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