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    Soccer/fubol - who plays?

    as the title states - who here plays soccer/futbol? At what level (casual league, for money, etc.)? If yo dont play, do you enjoy watching or follow it at all?

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    i've played since i was 4, probably my last season as a freshman in college. all levels for a kid, starting out small of course, but when i was 12-14 my team was 1 or 2 in PA and top 5 in the east coast. we went all over the place for tourneys

    i don't follow it at all and only like watching the best matches (premier league/world cup/olymipcs)

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    I do not play it. (Played one season when I was 11)
    I do not watch it.
    It just doesn't do it for me...

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    obviously i play. Not in a federated team any more but i play, usually as midfielder. Classic 8.
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    Come on guys stop calling it soccer, its FOOTBALL....

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    in north america its soccer, simply because the name football is already taken by the #1 sports here. Im not sure why the states is one of the few countries that the majority dislikes or does not care for soccer

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy View Post
    in north america its soccer, simply because the name football is already taken by the #1 sports here. Im not sure why the states is one of the few countries that the majority dislikes or does not care for soccer
    I'll tell you why...COMPLETE BOREDOM TO WATCH!!!! Low scoring, very little violence (for f*cks sake, a TACKLE is illegal). Americans love violence (on the field), we like action, we like extreme showcases of athleticisim, and we love high scoring athletic events. Not to mention Americans appreciate large, supremely athletic men, soccer doesn't offer any of that!!! And I wish people who live here would stop trying to call it soccer football, we all know what the real football is here in this country!!!

    AND YES I WAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER!!! LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    I'll tell you why...COMPLETE BOREDOM TO WATCH!!!! Low scoring, very little violence (for f*cks sake, a TACKLE is illegal). Americans love violence (on the field), we like action, we like extreme showcases of athleticisim, and we love high scoring athletic events. Not to mention Americans appreciate large, supremely athletic men, soccer doesn't offer any of that!!! And I wish people who live here would stop trying to call it soccer football, we all know what the real football is here in this country!!!

    AND YES I WAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER!!! LOL!!!

    hahaha, yes!

    Soccer just doesn't cut it...

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    They should rename you game, instead of stealing the good British word Football.
    You could call it: Throw ball
    Chase me (ball)
    Run fat boy run (ball)
    Meat head ball
    Jock strap ball
    Im falling asleep ball.............
    You see theres loads of cool names you can use...No need to thank me lol...

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    football (soccer) is the game of gods.
    Take more tactics, complexity, intelligence, mental mapping, precisión, control etc etc than "hey boys, all of you well armoured? ok, here's the thing, you collide all against each other and ignore the ball while one runs and tries to catch a watermelon before getting crushed by a fattie" LOL

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    Precision?

    As in Manning throwing a 60 yard pass between a safety and corner, right into the spot where only his receiver can catch it, all while being nailed by a 320 pound man who runs a 4.8 40....

    lol, and you wanna talk precision....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    Precision?

    As in Manning throwing a 60 yard pass between a safety and corner, right into the spot where only his receiver can catch it, all while being nailed by a 320 pound man who runs a 4.8 40....

    lol, and you wanna talk precision....
    That just sounds easy lol, how about doing it with your foot and make it 100 yards with 10 yards of swerve..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    Precision?

    As in Manning throwing a 60 yard pass between a safety and corner, right into the spot where only his receiver can catch it, all while being nailed by a 320 pound man who runs a 4.8 40....

    lol, and you wanna talk precision....
    i'd like to see some of those guys shooting this missile free-kick (roberto carlos goal against France)...

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=-t5MF7...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    That just sounds easy lol, how about doing it with your foot and make it 100 yards with 10 yards of swerve..
    lol, its like comparing apples to oranges....

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    "America is based on a just and efficient meritocracy that thrives on measured competition. That's why soccer has never really quite caught on here. They play a whole game and often the only score is a single goal awarded based on a flop in the penalty area. Americans would never stand for it. It reeks of random injustice and unearned glory.

    Could you imagine if they played a whole basketball game and no one was able to score and then based on one foul the other team got a free throw worth fifty points? That about sums up soccer.

    A culture gets the sport it deserves. While America runs and runs, the rest of the world takes its time and people's lives often change with one critical stroke of luck. In America, we believe in second chances. There's almost always hope that you can catch up in basketball and football. In soccer, you fall behind by two goals and you're pretty much done.

    How often have you seen a soccer game where one team completely outplays the other and the weaker side wins anyway based on a fluke goal? The answer is -- all the time. I understand there's luck and fluke plays in all sports, but they are not as critical when they are not the only score in the game.

    Yes, I know soccer is an art form and it has a different beauty. And actually I love the World Cup despite the fact that I think the players are unacceptably whiny actors and that the Artic ice cap is more likely to fall into the ocean than have an important soccer game with more than two goals. But despite my affinity for a game I actually grew up with (I was raised in Turkey and New Jersey, both soccer hubs), I can see its faults clearly. It might be the beautiful game but it is not the just game. To me, justice matters.

    Go ahead, tell me how I don't understand and how I am an American brute. Just don't fall down in fake, agonizing pain as you're complaining."


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-u...s_b_24781.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voland View Post
    i'd like to see some of those guys shooting this missile free-kick (roberto carlos goal against France)...

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=-t5MF7...eature=related
    I remember that goal, just couldnt believe what i saw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voland View Post
    i'd like to see some of those guys shooting this missile free-kick (roberto carlos goal against France)...

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=-t5MF7...eature=related
    Soccer is complex and full of stategy? Have you seen a NFL playbook? Let me break it down for you. When I played for the raiders, their passing games have over 300 pages of the PASSING game alone, 175 pages of rushing playes. The Defensive playbook book was in the 250 page range. Name one soccer playbook that detailed. That doesn't include special teams.

    Run fat boy run? I guarantee 90% of football players can out run any soccer player. Have you seen the bodies of Brandon Jacobs (6'4 265 running back, runs 4.6), Javon Kurse (6'5 270lbs, 8%bf, ran a 4.38), Matt Jones (6'6 250lbs 4.35), Vernon Davis (8% bf, 6'3 245lbs, 4.3). The list goes on and on. And I haven't even got into the ridiculous athleticisism of some defensive backs, receivers, and other running backs. None one player in soccer with Reggie Bush's athleticism, or Ladaninian Tomlinson, etc. This argument is boder line ridiculous!!!

    Show me a soccer player who can do this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ACXdm3Ebs

    or this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgV_z3mySE
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    -The "World" Cup is not the a World's Cup, but a competition among 32 countries, disproportionately allotted to European countries.


    -Soccer is boring. Soccer is absurdly slow. I've had soccer apologists say with false pride how the average soccer participant "runs" 4 miles in a game. Newsflash: that means they are jogging less than 3 miles per hour. Translation: they are mostly standing around. BORING

    -Soccer participants act like they've been shot - what pussies. Meanwhile, real athletes like Donovan McNabb or Bobby Baun play on broken legs.

    -Penalty kicks. You are determining a winner by a random event that has no relevance to the rest of the game. It would be as stupid as replacing extra innings with batting practice.

    -Psychotic fans. The South Korean loser who set himself on fire is one example. The mental stability of the murderer who killed that one player because he sucked (free clue: all soccer participants suck) is another.

    -Ties: 55% of games are ties. Ties suck.

    -Soccer is not objective. There is no play clock. The game doesn't end after the clock has run down. This adds bias, subjectivism and appeals to lower intellects, and it destroys the drama from last second victories. Contrast such clumsy timekeeping (shame on the Swiss, who should know better) and the lack of any discernable strategy with the strategic precision of the two-minute drill in football.

    -Soccer is not objective, part two. The lack of offensive chances leads to ties, which, as we know, suck. Soccer's "solution?" Let's randomize the result (in those cases where a tie suddenly becomes an affront, the "World" Cup) by having penalty kicks.

    -Soccer cheering has no point. Football fans successfully cause opposing teams' offenses to call timeouts, use up the play clock, screw up audibles or cause procedure penalties. Ask Burt Hooton whether baseball fans affect an opponent's performance. Soccer? They sing songs - which all sound the same - regardless of outcome. It doesn't celebrate performance. It doesn't serve to intimidate. It has no purpose.

    -Soccer counts time up. Soccer games count the time that has elapsed, rather than the time remaining. This is stupid for a number of reasons. First, soccer games don't refer to time anyway, so why even keep it? Second, why the concern on the past? The score already reflects all important information of what has already happened in the game. In soccer, this is most likely irrelevant anyway, since the score is most likely 0-0, er, nil, nil. The focus should be on the result - which depends on the future. Thus, time should count down. Can you imagine NASA counting up (from, say, when JFK made his speech about landing on the moon in a decade)? How stupid would that be?

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    lol, this will go on forever....

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    This argument is ridiculous to be honest, as has been stated, its like comparing apples and oranges. Although just about the worlds population may disagree with you. So just the name change would be cool..

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    ^^^You're right, the world would disagree with me...because they don't know the game. It's not taught in other countries they way soccer is taught here. Plus most countries aren't as successful as the US and therefore the expense of equipment is an issue. All you need in soccer is a ball and a little bit of room.

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    Remember BgMc there both great games, and this is just abit of fun. We could never ever compare the two and it would be foolish to try.

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    You are right brotha!!! I'm not trying to one up the other...what a minute, yes I am, LOL!! But I agree that Soccer is a great game. I respect soccer athletes stamina and the amount fan fare they bring. It is all in good fun and the only thing they have in common is the name!!!

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    Americans tend to have short attention spans and love violence and muscley men. Combine the stop-go action of football, you have a perfect fit. I was born in the united states and lived here my whole life, and i still find football very boring. Higher scores does not neccesarily equal action. And any athelete in the pro level is extremely atheletic, regardless of sports.

    I do hate when soccer players overexaggerate injuries, however. I always thought that seemed *****-ish, and when i played, i made a note to give some extra contact to people who did that. I do understand its place though. When a ton of money is on the line, and you are getting paid millions, every little advantage counts and should be used to win. If you can get a pk from a little acting and win it, i guess that is what it takes. Not to say that it is honorable...

    that being said, soccer cannot be that boring if it is overwhelmingly the most popular sport world wide. American dislike of soccer is general a product of our culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    This argument is ridiculous to be honest, as has been stated, its like comparing apples and oranges. Although just about the worlds population may disagree with you. So just the name change would be cool..
    Why is it so popular?

    "It is a cheap activity to undertake. This appeals to the lesser-developed nations that play soccer, viz., most of them. To play a game of football, you need at least 22 sets of pads and helmets, as well as a football. To play a game of hockey, you need at least 12 sets of sticks and skates and hockey equipment. These are all expensive propositions. To play a game of basketball, you need a net in addition to a ball. But note that due to basketball being less financially demanding, it has risen in popularity throughout the world. For soccer, you need a ball among 20-something participants. Note that the cost per participant is extremely low.
    Note that soccer fields are extremely large. This indicates that real estate is dirt-cheap where soccer is played. In more advanced countries, a phenomenon known as indoor soccer has arrived. While much less boring to watch or participate in than the traditional crap, it also indicates that property is more precious due to economic development of that culture.

    Also, as one can see in the truly impoverished areas of the world, you can make a soccer ball out of various scraps of trash, and kick it around with bare feet. One observes slum children in Brazil living in trash heaps forming round objects from the debris strewn around their front yard. Most of the world can't afford to play real sports, so they participate in soccer instead."

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    But yes, guys, lol lets not get carried away.

    I like my oranges, you like your apples.

    Everything will be all fine and dandy

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    Let's discuss the groupies of each sport!! LOL!!! American football players get to bang Gizelle, Jessica Simpson, strippers and porn stars, and soccer players get to bang a crack head skinny Spice girl!!! WE WIN!!!! LOL!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Let's discuss the groupies of each sport!! LOL!!! American football players get to bang Gizelle, Jessica Simpson, strippers and porn stars, and soccer players get to bang a crack head skinny Spice girl!!! WE WIN!!!! LOL!!!!
    Bro i have to agree there, posh spice is a fuvking mess,

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Let's discuss the groupies of each sport!! LOL!!! American football players get to bang Gizelle, Jessica Simpson, strippers and porn stars, and soccer players get to bang a crack head skinny Spice girl!!! WE WIN!!!! LOL!!!!
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    Bro i have to agree there, posh spice is a fuvking mess,

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    I use to play in a team last year. I tell you what? It's the best cardio that you can get. When I use to play for 90 minutes, I couldn't even get up 2 hours after the game was over. Also the next day, I couldn't even walk. LOL

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    i agree that it is played all over the world because of its lack of financial commitment. But that is a great thing, why should people have to drop all this money to play? It keeps it pure in a way, and really opens up the playing field to all walks of life (kind of, the euro leagues have a lot of money and control). Plus, having played a few sports that require pads, it really feels great not to have to wear all that crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voland View Post
    i'd like to see some of those guys shooting this missile free-kick (roberto carlos goal against France)...

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=-t5MF7...eature=related
    that was one of the best free kicks ever.. i've watched that vid so many times and its still amazing. i can get some decent curve on the outside but no where near that or that power, thats amazing.

    i skipped most of the posts in here, but america doesn't agree with the rest of the world in anything... look at the 2 biggest sports in the world, soccer and formula 1. i love f1, it makes nascar look like a joke, like the xfl was to football.

    people who say soccer isn't violent have never played it seriously. you can get away with so much in the game, and the only protection is a 6" piece of plastic on your shins. definitely the best athletes in the world, what other sport do you run for 90 minutes straight in? they make football players look like couch potatoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    that was one of the best free kicks ever.. i've watched that vid so many times and its still amazing. i can get some decent curve on the outside but no where near that or that power, thats amazing.

    i skipped most of the posts in here, but america doesn't agree with the rest of the world in anything... look at the 2 biggest sports in the world, soccer and formula 1. i love f1, it makes nascar look like a joke, like the xfl was to football.

    people who say soccer isn't violent have never played it seriously. you can get away with so much in the game, and the only protection is a 6" piece of plastic on your shins. definitely the best athletes in the world, what other sport do you run for 90 minutes straight in? they make football players look like couch potatoes.
    Good post, you see its unfair for me to judge American football, because i know very little about it. I tried to watch it once because im a big sports fan, the game just seemed to stop and start every few seconds.. I persume you have a good insight into both games...

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    fairly good lol. being american does that to you, i almost played football instead of soccer back in middle school. so i guess i'd make a better european than american haha: my favorite cars are bmw, porsche, audi, and the italians do all right there =p. my favorite sport to watch is either tennis or f1. they have the best food haha.. and i prefer soccer over football generally

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    lol, hahaha

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