Opinions Needed

**johnnybigguns** · 02-24-2009, 09:26 PM

I was wondering what you guys think of people that will swear on something to try to prove they are telling the truth.

examples

I swear on my dads life
I swear on my grandmas grave

things like that.

Personally I have found its because they are lying

***RAGE*** · 02-24-2009, 09:30 PM

I swear on my kids life that should never be said, and hate people who say that....

**jbm** · 02-24-2009, 09:31 PM

That's bulsh1t bro!
When you here that line obviously they are lying! IMO...

***RAGE*** · 02-24-2009, 09:32 PM

so do you swear I am good looking?

**Phate** · 02-24-2009, 09:32 PM

i don't swear or anything, if i say something and someone says "that's bullshit" or something like that then i'll just reply "you can think what you want, i don't care either way" then continue on with the convo

if they have a problem with something i say why should i care, it's their problem

***T-MOS*** · 02-24-2009, 09:33 PM

swearing is a bad habit.......so

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 01:51 PM

anyone else

**warchild** · 02-25-2009, 02:08 PM

i swear on your life that i hate ppl who say that

***T-MOS*** · 02-25-2009, 02:20 PM

I have sworn on my mother's soul when i was frustrated and needed to get the point across

**MMArmour** · 02-25-2009, 02:36 PM

I can tell you that lying is all in the delivery. It takes a very careful placement of words and expressions to successfully deliver a lie and have be accepted by an intelligent person. It has nothing to do with what person you swear on. I could be serious. I could be lying. It would have nothing to do with who I was swearing on.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

I can tell you that lying is all in the delivery. It takes a very careful placement of words and expressions to successfully deliver a lie and have be accepted by an intelligent person. It has nothing to do with what person you swear on. I could be serious. I could be lying. It would have nothing to do with who I was swearing on.

What do you look for when someone is lying?

**MMArmour** · 02-25-2009, 02:47 PM

Eye movement/twitching. Small actions. Finger twitched. Itching the hands or palms. Sweating. Nearvous laughter. Lack of eye contact.

Most people when they lie usually dont have problems maintaining eye contact leading up to a lie but at the point of delivery will look down and away from you. If they can look you in the eye make sure youre STARING into their pupil, if they lie, sometimes it will dialate. Those are all things I look for. And gut feeling of course.

**amcon** · 02-25-2009, 02:48 PM

if i say it i am totally 100 % saying it cause i am right and want to get that point across... and i cant even think the last time i said it cause ... well i dont like to say it -
i swear on my trucks fuel pump that prone just posted his wife...

btw my trucks fuel pump died...

**firmechicano831** · 02-25-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

What do you look for when someone is lying?

Its hard to say, I got a really good friend that is a compulsive liar and he is fuc.ken good. He can act, cry and do all sorts of shit. Specially people that don't know him well, he will lie like a

. You get it

**MMArmour** · 02-25-2009, 02:50 PM

The easiest way to lie to someone is tell yourself that the the outcome, regardless of what youre lying about, has no consequence. Its easier to loosen up if you believe that it has no consequence at all wether you did or didnt beat the living shit out of someone when asked by police. I go with loose and fluid interaction when lying. But its key that I believe that what Im saying has no real world action or consequence to it.

**MMArmour** · 02-25-2009, 02:52 PM

I also look for speech to speed up or become nervous or forced.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

Eye movement/twitching. Small actions. Finger twitched. Itching the hands or palms. Sweating. Nearvous laughter. Lack of eye contact.

Most people when they lie usually dont have problems maintaining eye contact leading up to a lie but at the point of delivery will look down and away from you. If they can look you in the eye make sure youre STARING into their pupil, if they lie, sometimes it will dialate. Those are all things I look for. And gut feeling of course.

Sounds like someone knows some of the piggys trick.

I've seen some fcuked up things my buddy had a gf that lied like crazy and one time he didn't believe her about something and they were fighting about it and she went to cut her wrist to prove she wasn't lying and guess what she was lying. She actually cut it alittle bit too

**Gaspari1255** · 02-25-2009, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

The easiest way to lie to someone is tell yourself that the the outcome, regardless of what youre lying about, has no consequence. Its easier to loosen up if you believe that it has no consequence at all wether you did or didnt beat the living shit out of someone when asked by police. I go with loose and fluid interaction when lying. But its key that I believe that what Im saying has no real world action or consequence to it.

I also think that convincing yourself and lying to yourself, tricking yourself that your telling the truth works. There used to be this cab driver in my town who would tell me all sorts of crazy shit like how his aunt shot JFK, how Kelly Clarkson was his daughter, etc etc. If you were to hook him up to a polygraph test and ask him those questions, he would have passed with flying colors because he actually believed his own lies. Those kinds of people are scary because they don't even know when they're lying.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 03:30 PM

I've seen a couple people after years of hard drug abuse and the total it takes on them and the crazy things they say that goes on in there lifes is nuts. I know the stories are bullshit cause they are so out there but it doesn't seem like they are lying

**Gaspari1255** · 02-25-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

I've seen a couple people after years of hard drug abuse and the total it takes on them and the crazy things they say that goes on in there lifes is nuts. I know the stories are bullshit cause they are so out there but it doesn't seem like they are lying

Exactly what the cab driver I was referring to is like. He was supposedly and ex-drug addict who just talked out of his arse but really believed his crazy stories.

**WOLFCRAFT** · 02-25-2009, 03:47 PM

I find it meaningless.

Every dumb**** on COPS swears on his whatever that there's no crack in his pocket, and then whadda ya know... there's crack in his pocket.

**DSM4Life** · 02-25-2009, 03:57 PM

I swear on my penis.

**Matt** · 02-25-2009, 04:01 PM

I swear on my virginity...

***RAGE*** · 02-25-2009, 04:03 PM

I swear on MAD virginity... too

**firmechicano831** · 02-25-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by WOLFCRAFT

I find it meaningless.

Every dumb**** on COPS swears on his whatever that there's no crack in his pocket, and then whadda ya know... there's crack in his pocket.

I don't think their lying, just performing magic.

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by ******

Exactly what the cab driver I was referring to is like. He was supposedly and ex-drug addict who just talked out of his arse but really believed his crazy stories.

People that are hard into the hard drugs for along time then eventually clean out they still have permanent damage from it and never act the same

**johnnybigguns** · 02-25-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by WOLFCRAFT

I find it meaningless.

Every dumb**** on COPS swears on his whatever that there's no crack in his pocket, and then whadda ya know... there's crack in his pocket.

Come on its obviously the police planting it for the show. No one really does that stuff

**Grant8010** · 02-26-2009, 11:02 AM

i will do it once and while but i dont swear on my kids, if i swear on something, you can bet your paycheck im telling the truth. i will never say that if im lying