USC player fails AAS test, was the test based on visual observation?

**ray0414** · 04-05-2009, 12:34 PM

So this is one of the 2 USC football players that failed their steroid test. You know the old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words"???? woowwwww.

**BritishColumbian** · 04-05-2009, 12:36 PM

is that a before and after pic? gyno on the left ?

***D7M*** · 04-05-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by BritishColumbian

gyno on the left ?

lol.

that's what I was thinking too

**Abominator** · 04-05-2009, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by ray0414

So this is one of the 2 USC football players that failed their steroid test. You know the old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words"???? woowwwww.

Strong tits.

I'm sure it was partly due to visual observation, but aren't college football players more prone to drug testing, anyway?

**ray0414** · 04-05-2009, 01:14 PM

he supposedly failed a steroid test at the NFL scouting combine back in february. i dont think its before and after, but the tight shirt just shows the gyno alot more.

**8iron** · 04-05-2009, 01:26 PM

better tits than my old lady.............

**Abominator** · 04-05-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by smoore990

better tits than my old lady.............

Pics?

Jk.

**T_Own** · 04-05-2009, 01:54 PM

i don't know if i would jump straight to steroids . he goes to usc and probably has the BEST training in the country. after 4 years, is that change that hard to imagine?

look at knowshawn moreno, that boy is jacked.

**Dr Manhattan** · 04-05-2009, 01:55 PM

Wow wonder his cycle

**BIG_TRUCK** · 04-05-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by T_Own

i don't know if i would jump straight to steroids . he goes to usc and probably has the BEST training in the country. after 4 years, is that change that hard to imagine?

look at knowshawn moreno, that boy is jacked.

Pretty drastic change, but could happen if he has great genetics for muscle building. Like you said, they eat the best & have the best trainers & facilities.

he had to be injured on the left pic I would guess.

**Dr Manhattan** · 04-05-2009, 02:19 PM

Maybe he took the clear?

**T_Own** · 04-05-2009, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK

Pretty drastic change, but could happen if he has great genetics for muscle building. Like you said, they eat the best & have the best trainers & facilities.

he had to be injured on the left pic I would guess.

yeah i can't imagine they would let someone like that into usc football lol...

http://sports.espn.go.com/i/mag/blog/combinewrap3.jpg

they showed him running the 40 at the combine and had a full 8 pack and shit goin on too.

**BIG_TRUCK** · 04-05-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by T_Own

yeah i can't imagine they would let someone like that into usc football lol...

http://sports.espn.go.com/i/mag/blog/combinewrap3.jpg

they showed him running the 40 at the combine and had a full 8 pack and shit goin on too.

That guy looks like he's all arms & delts. Small Torso.

I'm guessing he's short too, because he is a running back.

What did he run the 40 in?

***FireGuy*** · 04-05-2009, 02:49 PM

Thats Brian Cushing. He is self proclaimed supplement nut, interesting to see what he tested positive for.

**BIG_TRUCK** · 04-05-2009, 02:54 PM

Him testing positive for steroids at the combine might be a hoax I read.

**antone1980** · 04-05-2009, 02:55 PM

I think it was more of the body change so quickly, The jacked pic looks like is in the moment of working out and is flexing, we all know how good the pump gets when you are running a good creatine.. When the body changes like that over 6mos. to a year thats the problem if that was a 4 year plan then looked like that would be able to achieve with out aas.. BUT NOT 6MOS. Like those pics where taking..

**Dr Manhattan** · 04-05-2009, 02:59 PM

People underestimate creatine

***FireGuy*** · 04-05-2009, 03:01 PM

The NFL released a statement saying they have not released any info about him testing positve.

**quarry206** · 04-05-2009, 03:12 PM

HIGH SCHOOL

AFTER A FEW YEARS AT USC

i admit the boob pic is pretty bad.. BUT, from high school to now he hasn't changed that much.. when these kids play for a top level school like USC, UF (my team go gators), Texas or others. they have such good training endless levels of support and plus they are big guys anyways thats why they are there...And to be honest it doesn't look lik he gained lots of lean muscle..

maybe he takes them maybe not.. but i believe people keep jumping to say steroids way way way too fast.

**T_Own** · 04-05-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK

That guy looks like he's all arms & delts. Small Torso.

I'm guessing he's short too, because he is a running back.

What did he run the 40 in?

he's like 5'10 210 he actually has a pretty big chest for his size. he ran like a 4.55 in the 40. so not great.

**JDawg1536** · 04-05-2009, 03:32 PM

Pic on the left was at age 18 while injured. The one on the right is 4 years later, after lifting, and flexing.

**quarry206** · 04-05-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

Pic on the left was at age 18 while injured. The one on the right is 4 years later, after lifting, and flexing.

Ya , I will say by just judging those two pictures he does not look like he did steroids .. To be honest he doesn't look that much bigger. well lean muscle that is.

**BIG_TRUCK** · 04-05-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by quarry206

Ya , I will say by just judging those two pictures he does not look like he did steroids.. To be honest he doesn't look that much bigger. well lean muscle that is.

He is skinny in that pic when he was in high school.

Now he actually has some dense muscle.

BIG Difference in those 2 pictures.

Your acting like he hasn't improved much in his physique.

**quarry206** · 04-05-2009, 03:48 PM

no no, he has improved.. but it is easy something that a 18-22 yr old can do in four years of amazing strength coachs and high level gym quality..

my point is not that he isn't a great player, or that he is a wimp.. oh no no no... my point is people are jumping WAY to fast to say juice

**JDawg1536** · 04-05-2009, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by quarry206

no no, he has improved.. but it is easy something that a 18-22 yr old can do in four years of amazing strength coachs and high level gym quality..

my point is not that he isn't a great player, or that he is a wimp.. oh no no no... my point is people are jumping WAY to fast to say juice

Yup. In fact, this was released a couple hours ago-

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=142076&spln=1

**Matt** · 04-05-2009, 03:50 PM

Who...

**quarry206** · 04-05-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Who...

we are talking about american football players.. go back to watching your football with C. ronaldo and Rooney..jk

**Surreal** · 04-05-2009, 06:50 PM

Supposedly the older pic of Cushing was taken while he was in secondary school and right after recovering from a shoulder injury, which would help to explain the drastic difference. Frankly, I don't think anyone here would be or should be surprised if he or any other top-level D1 player with NFL potential is running cycles. Regardless, he've made some serious gains at USC, and there was obviously a lot more to it than syringes and pills.