PWO while on lower carbs....and durning workouts

**J-Dogg** · 04-06-2009, 10:30 AM

I'm only consuming about 80g of carbs a day right now, and I try to balance when I eat them to cordinate with my events through the day.

I'm always really wore out when it's time to go to the gym though.

I'm sure as far as glycogen storage in my muscle....is about none by the time I get to the gym in the evening.

Lower carbs, morning cardio, working all day......so the tank is empty.

It only takes 3 minutes for simple sugars to convert to glycogen in your body so I've been drinking a pop BEFORE and DURNING my work out.

It makes the training easier, and more intense. it works out to be about 48 carbs so would be just over 200 calories from sugar, which I have to burn off during the work out.

I drink my PWO nutrition shake after, but I make it with lower carbs now also.

Anyone see anything seriously wrong with it? I'm just using the simple sugars durning the work out...instead of after.

**Gaspari1255** · 04-06-2009, 10:41 AM

pop as in a soda?

**Polska** · 04-06-2009, 10:42 AM

This thread would fit better in the diet forum but no, I don't see anything wrong with it. Simple carbs during your workouts aren't bad, and some would even say beneficial by providing a sustained insulin release and anti catabolic effect.

**Gaspari1255** · 04-06-2009, 10:52 AM

How come not a Gatorade or something along those lines?

**J-Dogg** · 04-06-2009, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by ******

How come not a Gatorade or something along those lines?

I like coke better is all. It seems to get me going better too.

After not having carbs for awhile, the sugar in the pop I get going pretty good.

I would put it in the diet forum, but no one pays attention to it lol

**Phate** · 04-06-2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

I like coke better is all. It seems to get me going better too.

After not having carbs for awhile, the sugar in the pop I get going pretty good.

I would put it in the diet forum, but no one pays attention to it lol

yes we do, and personally i don't like using processed liquid sugar, i would use fruit or even better, complex carb before workout, simple sugar during, complex carb after

**J-Dogg** · 04-07-2009, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

yes we do, and personally i don't like using processed liquid sugar, i would use fruit or even better, complex carb before workout, simple sugar during, complex carb after

That's what I use to do also, I use to mix a drink for work out and PWO.

I do the same now, but my carbs are pretty low right now.

I do a can of coke while working out because the liquid sugar is just so simple, it gets in your blood stream fast, instant glycogen basicly. From what I understand it takes under 3 minutes for your body to convert this to energy.

It's 39 grams of sugar, so about 160 calories which I burn in about 20 minutes of lifting if my heart rate stays around 140.

After, I eat only about 30grams of complex carbs and 66 grams of protein.

Then for my last meal, broccoli is my only carb source.

**Polska** · 04-07-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

That's what I use to do also, I use to mix a drink for work out and PWO.

I do the same now, but my carbs are pretty low right now.

I do a can of coke while working out because the liquid sugar is just so simple, it gets in your blood stream fast, instant glycogen basicly. From what I understand it takes under 3 minutes for your body to convert this to energy.

It's 39 grams of sugar, so about 160 calories which I burn in about 20 minutes of lifting if my heart rate stays around 140.

After, I eat only about 30grams of complex carbs and 66 grams of protein.

Then for my last meal, broccoli is my only carb source.

Its simple sugar but its highly process high fructose corn syrup. Google the health risks of drinking it. In mexico they make coke with real sugar instead of corn syrup and it tastes so much better. You would be way better off drinking gatorade

**RuhlFreak55** · 04-07-2009, 01:47 PM

i remember you saying bread is a part of your diet.....that says it all

**Phate** · 04-07-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55

i remember you saying bread is a part of your diet.....that says it all

certain kinds of bread are perfectly fine

**RuhlFreak55** · 04-07-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

certain kinds of bread are perfectly fine

phate.....no....they're not

**J-Dogg** · 04-07-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55

i remember you saying bread is a part of your diet.....that says it all

What's so wrong with whole grain rye breads?

Not asking to be a smart ass either, just thought something went over my head.

I realize I can't eat a loaf of it, but I eat 2 slices a day, 14 carbs in each slice.

Made fresh in a deli, low salt low pres...

**RuhlFreak55** · 04-07-2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

What's so wrong with whole grain rye breads?

Not asking to be a smart ass either, just thought something went over my head.

I realize I can't eat a loaf of it, but I eat 2 slices a day, 14 carbs in each slice.

Made fresh in a deli, low salt low pres...

unless i'm confused rye is still made from wheat right? wheat = bad.....only for cheats pretty much.

MAYBE....for some bulking.....def a complete no no cutting tho

**Phate** · 04-07-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55;4549***

phate.....no....they're not

wheat=bad huh?

explain please

**Polska** · 04-07-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

wheat=bad huh?

explain please

Yes, I'd like to see your insight on this as well

**J-Dogg** · 04-07-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55

unless i'm confused rye is still made from wheat right? wheat = bad.....only for cheats pretty much.

MAYBE....for some bulking.....def a complete no no cutting tho

Whole wheat flour, then just rye whole grains I believe.

I've always been under the impression that whole wheat flour was a little more complex though. I'm not sure where it ranks on the charts.

I've always figured if it's a solid heavy loaf, with grains, and whole wheat flour it's fine in some moderation.

I'm still only consuming 28grams of those carbs in a mid day meal, even if they are not as complex as yams or brown rice, in the middle part of the day while i'm active it should be fine.

**RuhlFreak55** · 04-07-2009, 05:46 PM

gluten for one......

and unless i'm mistaken wheats are higher glycemic than brown rice or oats....and the quality is much less

**J-Dogg** · 04-07-2009, 06:15 PM

As charted on glycemic index:

Multi Grain Bread 48

Oats 48

Yams 51

I'm not sure what values brown rice has. But your whole wheat protein enriched pastas are the slowest burning I've found also.

**Phate** · 04-07-2009, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55

gluten for one......

and unless i'm mistaken wheats are higher glycemic than brown rice or oats....and the quality is much less

can you be specific as to why gluten is bad?

btw, ezekiel bread has a GI of 35 so out goes that argument, but you still have gluten, now prove to me when it's bad

**NBRD1808** · 04-07-2009, 09:54 PM

are you going low carb 7days a week? do you have a carb up/higher carb day? i always feels this does the trick. i feel ya on the low energy man probably why my caffein/green tea consumption is through the roof

**J-Dogg** · 04-08-2009, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by NBRD1808

are you going low carb 7days a week? do you have a carb up/higher carb day? i always feels this does the trick. i feel ya on the low energy man probably why my caffein/green tea consumption is through the roof

About once a week I have a meal with higher carbs, a good cheat meal.
I always hate it though, hard to go back to eating none after remembering how good they taste. It's like starting from day one.

With 600mgs of EQ a week too, it's hard to follow any form of diet. you just want to eat.

**RuhlFreak55** · 04-08-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

can you be specific as to why gluten is bad?

btw, ezekiel bread has a GI of 35 so out goes that argument, but you still have gluten, now prove to me when it's bad

there's a thousand reasons.....most people are at least partially gluten intolerant....it's not meant to be consumed.

**NBRD1808** · 04-08-2009, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

About once a week I have a meal with higher carbs, a good cheat meal.
I always hate it though, hard to go back to eating none after remembering how good they taste. It's like starting from day one.

With 600mgs of EQ a week too, it's hard to follow any form of diet. you just want to eat.

yeah very true man i swear as soon as you shovel a clean meal into you your mind and body freak out and revert back to the smell and tast of a cheat meal only you got EQ to battle with on top of that