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  1. 04-13-2009, 07:18 PM #1
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    I have SOMETHING I have to get off of my CHEST !!

    Ok so someone brought it to my attention about UGL's.

    As we all know that the Steroid Market is basically a bunch of people who make their own product and sell it to make a profit. SOME PEOPLE do it the right way and make sure everything is STERILE so they don't hurt their CUSTOMERS so they have repeat business. And others well they dont care and are out to make a quick buck, and don't care who they hurt,maim or kill in the process. **THOSE PEOPLE ARE LOWLIFES AND SHOULD BE STONED TO DEATH**

    But the fact remains that their will always be UGL's and it all boils down to one thing. IF YOU TRUST YOUR SOURCE then YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT !!!

    Don't get me wrong, PHARM GRADE is the way to go. Human Test is the Best and that is because well it is developed in a guaranteed STERILE environment by CHEMISTS that have degrees and know what they are doing. SO YOU CAN'T GO WRONG.

    But to have someone say that MY SOURCE where I have been getting my GEAR for YEARS is FAKE just kinda tweaked my last nerve. Yes I use UGL. Yes I trust my SOURCE. YES, I have never gotten an infection, YES IT IS WORKING, YES I WILL CONTINUE TO USE UGL's when I see fit as long as I trust my source and YES I WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW AND GROW.

    That's the name of the game. In most cases we are dealing with ILLEGAL substances, it's just like buying any other illegal drug. SOMETIMES YOU GET HOSED and SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. But at the END of the DAY ... ONE FACT STILL REMAINS.... TRUST !!!


    There I have said my PIECE and if for some REASON i overstepped my boundaries and said something I WASN'T SUPPOSED to I am truly SORRY. I just had to say this .... HAD TO !!!


    Thanks for listening.
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    Your source is a drug dealer, how much trust can you really have in him ?
    Its a risk no matter where you buy from, end of story.
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    It still is a calculated risk which is different then a general risk.

    When I order theres only about a 1% degree of uncertainty on the outcome. When I first started ordering is was more like 50%. The more you do it the more you learn and the less you need to worry about.
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    Drug Dealer .. Yes...

    But Business Entity also...

    In order to keep people coming back and make PROFIT... You must have some essence of a business frame of mind....
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    Oh it's always a risk... Think of it... IN MOST PLACES... IT IS AN ILLEGAL CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE...

    Which means... Your source may never screw you but that aint saying the DEA aint gonna kick down your friggen door either...

    LIFE IS FULL OF RISKS... IF IT WASN'T.... IT WOULDN'T BE FUN.... I DONT WANNA LIVE IN THAT WORLD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    Drug Dealer .. Yes...

    But Business Entity also...

    In order to keep people coming back and make PROFIT... You must have some essence of a business frame of mind....
    Most people aren't in it for the long hall. How many drug dealers you know stay in business very long ? It all catches up to them at some point.

    They are in it for the money THATS IT. Don't trust anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    Drug Dealer .. Yes...

    But Business Entity also...

    In order to keep people coming back and make PROFIT... You must have some essence of a business frame of mind....
    Believe it or not I've had more professional service a lot of times ordering from "drug dealers" (which is a term I dont like for what we're talking about)
    and I've had terrible situations with legal companies that I thought I had nothing to worry about.

    Its more the nature of the internet and business in general I think. Still yeh its prob more risky but nothing like I thought it use to be, which was a cop knocking on my door 2 seconds after confirming my first order lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Believe it or not I've had more professional service a lot of times ordering from "drug dealers" (which is a term I dont like for what we're talking about)
    and I've had terrible situations with legal companies that I thought I had nothing to worry about.

    Its more the nature of the internet and business in general I think. Still yeh its prob more risky but nothing like I thought it use to be, which was a cop knocking on my door 2 seconds after confirming my first order lol
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    an unlicensed dealer in illegal drugs.

    No way around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Most people aren't in it for the long hall. How many drug dealers you know stay in business very long ? It all catches up to them at some point.

    They are in it for the money THATS IT. Don't trust anyone.
    Yeh but is Gaspari not in it for the money? Or Ralph Lauren?

    Do I trust Ralph Lauren? Hell no, anytime I buy a polo shirt I think how much I'm being raped for money. Just because I'm getting a shirt doesnt mean I'm still not being scammed, to be a tad philogical on this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I like Cake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Yeh but is Gaspari not in it for the money? Or Ralph Lauren?

    Do I trust Ralph Lauren? Hell no, anytime I buy a polo shirt I think how much I'm being raped for money. Just because I'm getting a shirt doesnt mean I'm still not being scammed, to be a tad philogical on this topic.
    You are comparing apples and oranges here. I am not taking my life/heath into jeopardy when i buy a polo shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Most people aren't in it for the long hall. How many drug dealers you know stay in business very long ? It all catches up to them at some point.

    They are in it for the money THATS IT. Don't trust anyone.
    I trust YOU DSM !! if I didn't I wouldn't have let you tie me up and do those things you did to me....big boy !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
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    an unlicensed dealer in illegal drugs.

    No way around it.
    drug dealer (my definition)

    noun
    bos best friend


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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I trust YOU DSM !! if I didn't I wouldn't have let you tie me up and do those things you did to me....big boy !!!!
    I took a picture when you were masked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    drug dealer (my definition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    You are comparing apples and oranges here. I am not taking my life/heath into jeopardy when i buy a polo shirt.
    Not exactly, put that polo shirt on and walk through Harlem with a polo suit and polo briefcase.

    Then tell me your life doesn't feel a bit in jeopardy.


    I still know what you're saying though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Most people aren't in it for the long hall. How many drug dealers you know stay in business very long ? It all catches up to them at some point.

    They are in it for the money THATS IT. Don't trust anyone.
    True ... very true... but I dont just use people that have lists...

    I have used my source... successfully... everytime... (over 50).. never not once a bump in the road for a little shy of 4 years...

    That's a long haul to me... I don't know about you...


    What do you consider LONG HAUL??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I took a picture when you were masked.

    time of my life, when can we do it again daddy?????....lolol
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    In general thoUGH i DO TOTALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.. oTher than this whole CAKE and Masked up dude thing... kinda lost there but hey ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    True ... very true... but I dont just use people that have lists...

    I have used my source... successfully... everytime... (over 50).. never not once a bump in the road for a little shy of 4 years...

    That's a long haul to me... I don't know about you...


    What do you consider LONG HAUL??
    Most dealers are good maybe for a few years, maybe. Word gets out , people get greedy etc.

    I am just saying, if i was making a drug and taking it myself i would do everything in my power to make it as clean as possible. Now if i was selling a drug, making it in bulk as fast as i can to make the most money, i might start taking some shortcuts to save time and make extra cash.

    Again i am in it for the cash not your well being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    True ... very true... but I dont just use people that have lists...

    I have used my source... successfully... everytime... (over 50).. never not once a bump in the road for a little shy of 4 years...

    That's a long haul to me... I don't know about you...


    What do you consider LONG HAUL??
    I think thats pretty good actually for an internet source (if that what you're talking about)

    I think 7-8 years is EXCELLENT for places like these to stay in business. But usually its prob closer to 2-3 years (for a good place) and 2-3 days/weeks for the scammers or w/e.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    You are comparing apples and oranges here. I am not taking my life/heath into jeopardy when i buy a polo shirt.
    You are taking your life into your hands when you fly on an airplane (you have to trust the mechanics and pilots) - also when you buy food (that it's not contaminated or poisoned).

    I trust in people's self interest. I think it's unlikely a ugl lab that has been around for years is going to suddenly decide to rip off their customers.

    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Most dealers are good maybe for a few years, maybe. Word gets out , people get greedy etc.

    I am just saying, if i was making a drug and taking it myself i would do everything in my power to make it as clean as possible. Now if i was selling a drug, making it in bulk as fast as i can to make the most money, i might start taking some shortcuts to save time and make extra cash.

    Again i am in it for the cash not your well being.
    I have thought of it that way before... but never on that magnitude... YOU ARE RIGHT.. 100% RIGHT...

    Anyway though... yah umm.. I hope that This place doesn't ever do that to me... Now I am going to be more Weary but.. I will try not to let it bother me... it's kinda making me wanna stock up... like.. enough for the next 5 years or so... maybe I should start planning ahead for the future...

    You got me thinkin'


    Ya never ever know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    I think thats pretty good actually for an internet source (if that what you're talking about)

    I think 7-8 years is EXCELLENT for places like these to stay in business. But usually its prob closer to 2-3 years (for a good place) and 2-3 days/weeks for the scammers or w/e.
    Yes I meant an Internet source...

    I hope they stay in business for the next 7-8 years.. or longer.. it would just make me all that more happier that I never have to risk my money anywhere else...

    Ya know??

    Quote Originally Posted by DKU View Post
    You are taking your life into your hands when you fly on an airplane (you have to trust the mechanics and pilots) - also when you buy food (that it's not contaminated or poisoned).

    I trust in people's self interest. I think it's unlikely a ugl lab that has been around for years is going to suddenly decide to rip off their customers.

    Just my opinion.
    EXACTLY !!!

    My opinion too !! My opinion too !!! I so second that !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    I have thought of it that way before... but never on that magnitude... YOU ARE RIGHT.. 100% RIGHT...

    Anyway though... yah umm.. I hope that This place doesn't ever do that to me... Now I am going to be more Weary but.. I will try not to let it bother me... it's kinda making me wanna stock up... like.. enough for the next 5 years or so... maybe I should start planning ahead for the future...

    You got me thinkin'


    Ya never ever know...
    its always good to have several options to buy from....never put all your eggs in one basket, and never order more than you are willing to lose, just in case

    i would rather make several small orders, then to make fewer large ones and risk losing a large chunk of change

    no matter how much you trust your source, he is doing something that even HE has no real control over how long he can do it without getting caught, so
    ALWAYS cover your ass.....or you can let DSM cover it........lololol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Most people aren't in it for the long hall. How many drug dealers you know stay in business very long ? It all catches up to them at some point.

    They are in it for the money THATS IT. Don't trust anyone.
    Very true..how many times have we seen well established sources ..up and scam for thousands never to be heard from again. Also how hard is it for a UGL to change a label and start anew ......its almost like filing bankruptcy in a sense. Good points on both sides - you must trust your source...but how much can you really? It is def a risk ..... Its all cost / benefits my friends.....
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    Interesting thread. I'm showing my age but I would never trust the internet. Phone call, wait thirty minutes, little grey haired lady at the door. Same person for more than thirty years and no, I never share. There has to be some advantage to being a part of the Woodstock generation...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I like Cake
    What kind of cake? I like cheesecake and Blackforest cake, Fish cakes are good too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishColumbian View Post
    What kind of cake? I like cheesecake and Blackforest cake, Fish cakes are good too!
    You guys eat cake? I decided to cheat today and have a slice of cheese pizza, I got 3 bites in before I felt like throwing up.

    My body has turned against me
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    I said I like cake, not that I eat it.....lolol

    last time I had cake was my birthday about a month ago and i barely ate the one slice...lol

    I like carrot cake
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    No matter what you are taking a chance on gear. There are ways that you can minimize risk and those steps should always be taken.
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    damn I was hoping it was a bra based on the thread title
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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishColumbian View Post
    What kind of cake? I like cheesecake and Blackforest cake, Fish cakes are good too!
    I only eat two kinds of CAKE !! Strawberry Cheesecake and Coconut Creme Cake (with those lil coconut shaving sprinkled all over the top of it !!) **And No I am not talking of the pie... I am talking of the CAKE... THE COCONUT CREME CAKE !!! Sooo GOood !! Damn SuGAR and Carbs !! Why do they have to be so bad for us !!! Imagine if it was opposite and we grew off of junk and got fat off of PROTEIN !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    You guys eat cake? I decided to cheat today and have a slice of cheese pizza, I got 3 bites in before I felt like throwing up.

    My body has turned against me
    Yes !! I know exactly what you mean ... my body will not let me eat any form of sh1t food anymore... it's friggen weird.

    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I said I like cake, not that I eat it.....lolol

    last time I had cake was my birthday about a month ago and i barely ate the one slice...lol

    I like carrot cake
    german chocolate
    coconut creme pie
    CAKE !!! How did this thread turn to CAKE... LOL...

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    Life is full of risks and choices. We have the freedom to make our own choices through the act of free will, and we should exercise this gift as much as possible.
    EXACTLY !!!

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    damn I was hoping it was a bra based on the thread title

    LMFAO !!! Thanks Kratos... lol....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Your source is a drug dealer, how much trust can you really have in him ?
    Its a risk no matter where you buy from, end of story.
    Do you think that drug dealers are inherently dishonest?

    Drug dealers are just like any other sort of business man. Some are honest, others aren't.

    I think you're being very judgemental here.
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