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    Hardest/Most Respected/Most Thorough Training Certification, Help me out guys

    I'm going to start working at gold's this summer and would like to get Nationally Certified, not just to get the title, but to further my bodybuilding knowledge

    Which organizations, in ya'lls opinion, is the most through, most respected, etc...

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    NFPT is not, but I need it to accept this new job... I would suggest a degree in sports medicine, and Nutrition especially would be needed/desired..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    NFPT is not, but I need it to accept this new job... I would suggest a degree in sports medicine, and Nutrition especially would be needed/desired..
    yeah...i'm taking sports nutrition and physiology of exercise and nutrition this summer, but remember i'm only a freshman in college so that's not feasible right now, not to mention i'm already a triple major single minor, i can't add anymore stuff, lol

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    I read this a while back Phate. Not really a direct answer but thought it might be informative to you. Answers are from Alwyn Cosgrove and he diffinitely has the credentials.

    TM: Let's talk certifications. How important are they?

    AC: With certifications, we're confusing education with expertise. There's a difference between a NASCAR driver and a kid who just passed his driver's-ed class. And certifications are on the driver's-ed side of things.

    All certifications show is basic competence that you won't hurt someone. It doesn't make you an expert. It just shows that you're not an idiot.

    Some people think that certifications are worthless. Yes, probably, but it's hard to not pick them up on the way to becoming good. If you told me that you did martial arts for 30 years and you're not a black belt, that's kind of odd, right? You haven't picked up any sort of third-party recognition of your ability.

    Let's say you come to me for a job and you've never had a certification in your life. It doesn't look impressive. I would expect somebody who's good to pick them up.

    So I don't put any faith in them at all, but I've learned something with every class I've been to and every book I've read. You're not going to become dumber by going in and taking another class. You might learn one thing. So if you're a professional and you're trying to get better, you're going to pick these things up. But in absolutely no way, shape, or form does a certification equal expertise.

    TM: What certifications would you recommend?

    AC: NSCA is number one. Now, don't confuse that with me saying that they're excellent, but I don't think anybody is better.

    If you want to get into assessments and stuff, Paul Chek has an in-depth course. It's more like a graduate degree. Charles Poliquin's certification is similar. It's not a weekend certification. It's a serious amount of study.

    If you want to become a trainer, go and intern with someone in your area who's good. Work for a while and soak it up. Then take a certification to get the paperwork done and be able to get insurance.

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    Curious...what are your majors going to be in?

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    thanks, that was very informative

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.E.N. View Post
    Curious...what are your majors going to be in?
    biology/biochemistry/physics chem minor

    i want to get into Nuclear radiology and Quantum physics, but my little college doesn't offer a degree plan for those so i have to take the majors for both

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    Not messing around are we!?

    With all that and the gym we may need to start a 'get phate laid' thread.

    Good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.E.N. View Post
    Not messing around are we!?

    With all that and the gym we may need to start a 'get phate laid' thread.

    Good luck to you.
    that would be a great thread..........im in...... lets do it.............post picture of potential prospects and phate can tell us wood up or wood down

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    I thought Gold's had their our cert program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.E.N. View Post
    Not messing around are we!?

    With all that and the gym we may need to start a 'get phate laid' thread.

    Good luck to you.
    well, i've actually not been pulling my weight in school, i got a couple Bs which isn't like me at all(i haven't gotten a B since junior high), so i sat down with my mom and we worked out a study strategy, ya'll are gonna love this

    my new study time will be 2x a day during cardio while i walk/elliptical etc...we concluded i can't stop working out because it's one of the ways i fight my mild depression(i hate using SSRIs)

    that means i won't be on here as much starting next fall, because i'm going to use the forum as a reward for finishing my homework and studys

    as for the getting laid part, no problem there, i've got plenty of booty calls(well i HAD plenty, my phone broke a few hours ago), hell one of them is a little brain so i might just bend her over, put my notes on her back and go to town, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8iron View Post
    that would be a great thread..........im in...... lets do it.............post picture of potential prospects and phate can tell us wood up or wood down
    i'm in, sounds good to me, i'll post my most recent chick to give ya'll an idea if you want

    Quote Originally Posted by yourmom View Post
    I thought Gold's had their our cert program?
    i don't think so, i might be wrong but i haven't heard anything about it if so, i wouldn't pay for it anyway if they did, the trainers here are a joke with the exception of one who actually competes

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    im taking my nasm cpt test on monday. most gyms in my area have told me this is the best one and it's the hardest.

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    the NASM is a top training cert and super tough!


    I don't agree with the guy who used the NASCAR and drivers ed situations.

    Think of it in this sense, and this happens often, I have seen it... A company will hire a fresh out of college student with a BA/BS, Masters, Whatever the degree might be, over a person who has been working in their company for 10 years and knows a lot about the company and position but lacks the degree. It happens: Many times Education is more powerful than Experience (this is also why so many companies fail).


    PS: Golds doesn't have their own training program but 24 Hour Fitness does. LA Fitness is the lowest paying out of the 3.
    I know 24 hour fitness pays you more money for having more certifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i'm in, sounds good to me, i'll post my most recent chick to give ya'll an idea if you want



    i don't think so, i might be wrong but i haven't heard anything about it if so, i wouldn't pay for it anyway if they did, the trainers here are a joke with the exception of one who actually competes
    post away got to see what were up against.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by stangmatt06 View Post
    the NASM is a top training cert and super tough!


    I don't agree with the guy who used the NASCAR and drivers ed situations.

    Think of it in this sense, and this happens often, I have seen it... A company will hire a fresh out of college student with a BA/BS, Masters, Whatever the degree might be, over a person who has been working in their company for 10 years and knows a lot about the company and position but lacks the degree. It happens: Many times Education is more powerful than Experience (this is also why so many companies fail).


    PS: Golds doesn't have their own training program but 24 Hour Fitness does. LA Fitness is the lowest paying out of the 3.
    I know 24 hour fitness pays you more money for having more certifications.
    i wonder if i could use my status here as a cert, lol

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    Phate, Can't help you bro with coz I'm too far!!! lol...
    Anyways! Good Luck Brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    Phate, Can't help you bro with coz I'm too far!!! lol...
    Anyways! Good Luck Brother!
    come on jbm I know u got a potential picture of some girl for phate...........ur one of the picture king when it comes to pu**y, u and dsm and tmos and jammy let some some head turners or gaggers

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    i'll help ya'll out, here is the last girl i was with, she's a model in lubbock i believe




    up for a few minutes only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i wonder if i could use my status here as a cert, lol
    Lol worth a try!

    NASM is super tough, my ex was studying for it and I read through the material and shut the book instantly so I could go back to watching TV lol. My head was spinning.

    ISSA is also a well known cert.

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    ok! ok! ok! Phate, Hope this could help!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    ok! ok! ok! Phate, Hope this could help!!!

    i don't know, i like a little better

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    ok i think we are going to have to start a new thread to find you a lady friend in the ar lounge........... I shall return...................ha ha.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8iron View Post
    ok i think we are going to have to start a new thread to find you a lady friend in the ar lounge........... I shall return...................ha ha.................
    Damn this thread is already there............i must be losing it man if i knew how to post apicture i would be dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8iron View Post
    Damn this thread is already there............i must be losing it man if i knew how to post apicture i would be dangerous
    when you post, there is a little icon of a mountain and sun 13 over from the bold button, click it and it will ask for the image location, to get that just right click on any image and click copy image location

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    A bunny for you!


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    I'm sure you'll love this one!

    Last edited by jbm; 04-24-2009 at 10:52 PM.

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    go for nsca and couple with exercise science degree

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    I'm sure you'll love this one!

    now we're getting somewhere, so whats her number, does she mind if i bring a friend(girlfriend of mine that wants to experiment)

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