Lmfao! Take your nap! I was on lunch break at work but now I gotta go back to installing more unnecessary crap for the rich..... I'll post later when I'm home or between install jobs lolOriginally Posted by Times Roman
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Lmfao! Take your nap! I was on lunch break at work but now I gotta go back to installing more unnecessary crap for the rich..... I'll post later when I'm home or between install jobs lol
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I'm zero thirty before gym, and about 30 minutes ago, I drank a liter of coffee.
Nap?
....what nap?
It's interesting that (quantum) physics and meta physics will actually converge into something that can be rationally discussed. See your point about consciousness affecting reality.
You did make that point, right?
Wouldn't it be interesting if "God" were nothing more than a being expressed in higher dimensions? You know, anything displaying properties in four (4) dimensions reigns supreme over anything expressed in fewer dimensions.
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I everything I posted earlier was from that site. I posted the sources and the web address. They weren't my thoughts :-p
I love the subject but my knowledge is limited..... Like most of us. I do enjoy spending time researching this stuff and learning when I can.
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ha ha ha!
I think you've been watching too much Star Trek.
Do you know what anti matter is?
Pretty simple actually.
Know how an electron has a negative charge? Well, all an anti electron is an electron with a positve charge. There are anti protons and a variety of other atomic components that fall into this category as well.
Yes, we can make anti matter....[/QUOTE]
excuses me sir but i do have a very extensive knowledge of antimatter i just haven't brushed up on it lately
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oh, take a chill pill Frank. I wasn't picking on you. Learn to say Ha ha ha once in a while... =)
and from wiki:
In particle physics, antimatter is material composed of antiparticles, which have the same mass as particles of ordinary matter but have opposite charge and quantum spin. Antiparticles bind with each other to form antimatter in the same way that normal particles bind to form normal matter. For example, a positron (the antiparticle of the electron, with symbol e+) and an antiproton (symbol p) can form an antihydrogen atom. Furthermore, mixing matter and antimatter can lead to the annihilation of both, in the same way that mixing antiparticles and particles does, thus giving rise to high-energy photons (gamma rays) or other particle–antiparticle pairs. The end result of antimatter meeting matter is a release of energy proportional to the mass as the mass-energy equivalence equation, E=mc2 shows
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I've been thinking about your black hole and antimatter question. It intrigues the shit outa me.
Really..... What would happen if we blasted a black hole with antimatter? Somethig similar to what happened in the big bang where Matter won the war? But if we shot the same amount of antimatter as the black hole contains matter...... Could we destroy the black hole?
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If it is proven without a doubt that those neutrinos CAN travel faster than light, then e will not equal mc squared, and everything we think about physics and mathematics will take a huge swerve ball.
I heard that it was theorised, if you could survive getting near a blackhole, then time around you changes speed.
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My query was based on a faulty premise.
I was still half asleep when i wrote that.
My foggy brain was thinking dark energy eminated from dark matter, when in fact, it doesn't. Dark energy is a repulsive force, whereas gravity is an attractive force.
If dark energy eminated from dark matter, then this would be a fruitful thought experiment.
Now, anti matter is just regular ol' matter, except with an opposite charge. For example, an electron has a negative charge, and an anti electron has a positve charge. Other than that, they both behave exactly the same. If you were to collect a large amount of antimatter, and form an anti matter star, it would still possess the same gravitational effect as any other star.
A black hole crushes the atom, down below the level of neutrons, electrons, and protons. Quarks make up these particles, and a black hole crushes even the quarks, and what ever elswe that may make up quarks.
Once you crush anti matter to this level, it's really no longer anti matter, but instead, just a singularity, that is incredibly incredibly dense.
The next frame WILL be an interesting thought experiment.
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instead of a singularity, it is possible to avoid the singularity with a rapidly (around the speed of light) spinning column with about the same density of a singularity. This sets up an ergosphere outside the event horizon where objects may not (cannot) remain stationary. There is also an effect called a time drag, meaning it is pulling in space/time around it. Leaving the ergo sphere you would notice two things:
1) You've picked up MORE energy than when you went into the ergosphere
2) You've effectively traveled into the future, according to your watch
Since you have not crossed the event horizon, then this would be a survivable experience, given the right techology. How much you travel into the future depends on a lot of things, the degree of time drag in the ergo sphere, how close you get to the event horizon, the stellar mass of the rotating cylinger, amongst other things.
It is quite possible, to enter the ergo sphere a dying man, and to come out just moments later according to your watch, but travel thousands of years into the future, just in time to find a cure for your ailment.
....So long Medicare!
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Son of a bitch...... Your right lol. In a way that answer aggravates me but makes me happy. An I the only one? Lol
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Lmfao! I read that twice and I see what your saying. I'll read it again when I wake up to see if I understand it :-p
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Yes I've kind of kept an eye on the neutrinos info. I dont actively research it but every now and again I look up new info. I personally think they will be faster than light. Idunno if that's me hoping or what......
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I fukked up the first time when i wrote neutrinos, i meant tachyons.
I seem to be fukking up alot lately.
Actually, the formula e= mc squared is consistant with the tachyon, because the tachyon has imaginary mass. therefore e = mc squared is preserved.
the interesting thing about the tachyon, is that with most particles, the faster a regular particle goes, it picks up mass energy. but with a tachyon, as it's speed increases past C, it's mass/energy DECREASES!
chew on that one for awhile?
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and can you imagine "Tachyon TV"
"see the shows of tomorrow.....
........TODAY!!!"
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I found this really interesting.....
This article is about hypothetical faster-than-light particles. For quantum fields with imaginary mass, see Tachyonic field.
Because a tachyon would always move faster than light, we would not be able to see it approaching. After a tachyon has passed nearby, we would be able to see two images of it, appearing and departing in opposite directions. The black line is the shock wave of Cherenkov radiation, shown only in one moment of time. This double image effect is most prominent for an observer located directly in the path of a superluminal object. Because the object arrives before the light, the observer sees nothing until the sphere starts to pass the observer, after which the image-as-seen-by-the-observer splits into two--one of the arriving sphere and one of the departing sphere.
Feinberg proposed that tachyonic particles could be quanta of a quantum field with negative squared mass. It was soon realized that excitations of such imaginary mass fields do not in fact propagate faster than light, and instead represent an instability known as tachyon condensation. Nevertheless, they are still commonly referred to as "tachyons", and such fields have come to play an important role in modern physics.
Most physicists think that faster-than-light particles cannot exist because they are not consistent with the known laws of physics. If such particles did exist, they could be used to build a tachyonic antitelephone and send signals faster than light, which (according to special relativity) would lead to violations of causality. Potentially consistent theories that allow faster-than-light particles include those that break Lorentz invariance, the symmetry underlying special relativity, so that the speed of light is not a barrier.
Despite theoretical arguments against the existence of faster-than-light particles, experiments have been conducted to search for them. No compelling evidence for their existence has been found.
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a real easy way to imagine how it would look if a tachyon were approaching you would be this:
record the event with a camera (if possible)
then watch it in reverse.
What you would see is instead of the tachyon approaching you, you wouuld see it departing away from you
But I would need my glasses.........
....I just cant see things that small anymore! =)
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You know Haz,
These are the kinds of conversations I reallly enjoy camping, sitting in front of the bon fire, passing around the jug of cheap wine............
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cheap wine...... Is that what they call it now? Hahaha
Yea I love that too..... Actually planning a zombie camping trip and 5k run this spring
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what? pitch a tent then take off?
You know, I "brag" so much about what I used to be able to run, now? I can't even run a 5k. Kinda embarrasing for me.
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Lmfao! I'm right there with you...... I'd die after 100 yards and I was a 1st team all conference track athlete - that's really embarrassing. I was much lighter then tho lol!
Yea the zombie 5k is a charitable event. There's a whole camping aspect to it also. They can invade your camp at any time and you hafta get up and go to escape. I told the gf and the others that wanna go - I'm not participating in that lol. Once I put the tent up, blow up the air mattress, and pop some beers..... I'm stayin put. I'll attempt the 5k tho.... Haha.
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the only thing i can do anymore is a walk/jog on the grass at the park.
I was doing this a few years ago at work, and fell in a gopher hole and hit the ground. In front of my staff. Embarrassing.
Next day, same hole, in front of the same crowd. I fall to the ground. ggrass was covering up the hole, so now I'm pissed, ripping up grass around the hole so i can see it better.
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Lmfao! I hate you..... I'm at a wake and just laughed at that story Hahahaha
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Ready for the next one?
When reading about black holes, we hear about spinning vs. non spinning black holes. Evidently, non spinning black holes exhibit different phenomenom than spinning black holes.
so my question to you is this....
What do you think the probability is that a black hole can be the non spinning variety?
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Kerr black holes are of spinning variety. Black holes decay though..... So over time it would stop spinning and stabilize. I'd say most black holes would be non spinning.
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Black holes do decay! via "Hawking" radiation (named after the dude inthe wheel chair that initially proposed the idea). I'm assuming (aka "big guess") that rate of decay is very slow, and would take longer than the life of the universe to evaporate to nothing, depending on the solar mass of the singularity.
But as matter coelesces (fuk! how do you spell that?), it slowly begins to rotate. As it continues to coelesce (?) stars and planets form, spinning as well. Our group of galaxies rotate, or galaxy rotates, our solar system rotates, and all the objects (planets) spin on an axis. In fact, everything in the universe rotates. Electrons spin around a nucleus, molecules vibrate, everything is moving, even on the subatomic level.
Now, all stars spin/rotate. No, i haven't personally verified that one, but I'll get right on it....
...now where'd i put that telescope?
So anyways, all stars spin/rotate. when they nova, they cast off their outer shell. What remains is an extremely fast spinning core. If in fact this core continues to collapse, then as it does, it begins to spin faster and faster.... much like the figure skater that starts out spinning slowly, then drawing in her hands closer to her axis, she spins faster. So as this core collapses, and it's diameter diminishes, it spins faster and faster. By the time it reaches / becomes a singularity, it's rotational velocity is approaching that of light.
Personally, by utilizing the time tested WAG method (wild ass guess), I'd say there is almost a zero probability of a non spinning black hole. The only thing I can think of that would prevent it from spinning, is if some outside force acted on it, like a collision with another black hole. But even then, that doesn't mean it is going to stop spinning..............
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I did a quick search because I had to know lol. We'll never know.... But still.....
There are four known, exact, black hole solutions to Einstein's equations, which describe gravity in General Relativity. Two of these (the Kerr and Kerr-Newman black holes) rotate.
It is generally believed that every black hole decays rapidly to a stable black hole; and, by the no-hair theorem, that (modulo quantum fluctuations) stable black holes can be completely described at any moment in time by these eleven numbers:
mass-energy M,
linear momentum P (three components),
angular momentum J (three components),
position X (three components),
electric charge Q.
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Ahhhhh son of a bitch! The rotating velocity never reaches zero!
A rotating black hole can produce large amounts of energy at the expense of its rotational energy. This happens through the Penrose process in the black hole's ergosphere, an area just outside its event horizon. In that case a rotating black hole gradually reduces to a Schwarzschild black hole, the minimum configuration from which no further energy can be extracted, although the Kerr black hole's rotation velocity will never quite reach zero.
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Question for you......
Why are the galaxies distributed in clumps and filaments?
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TR - thanks for the discussionyou're more advanced in the subject than I but I'm loving very minute of it. I love learning about this stuff so what I don't know - I spend time researching.
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theory formation is interesting, much like a house of cards. One theory is developed, and becomes the underpinnning of other theories that therefore become reliant on it. Disprove the first theory, and the other dependent theories come crashing down... This is why some theories are so resistant to change, even in the light of contradicting evidence. Because the egg heads have too much intellectual capital / energy vested in the theory, and the theory begins to take on a certain amount of "dogma". Not healthy in a "scientific" community!
The theory that helps explain this, is reliant on the Big Bang Theory. I've already presented some discussion why I think it foolish to overly rely on this theory at this point in time. And it has nothing to do with religion. The big bang theory is reliant on the idea that C has remained stable over the dozens of billions of observable years in the universe. There are some indications that this is not the case, that C has been slowing down. This means that C was faster ten billion years ago than it is now. If this is true, then the validity of the Big Bang Theory comes into question, and the discussion I'm about to have is moot.
The current idea is runs something like this:
1) The Big Bang is nothing more than a "quantum fluctuation" on steroids
2) Immediately after this fluctuation, the universe went through a hyper inflation phase, where space/time expanded faster than C
3) During this phase, due to (again) quantum fluctations, there were flaws or irregularities in this expanding fluctuation (as opposed to being homogeneous as originally thought)
4) During the hyper inflation phase, these flaws became magnified, increasing the heterogeneous nature of the universe (or it's consistancy)
5) After a certain point, gravity develops into a force (it was not a defined force at the moment of the bang, but developed later after the temperature of the universe begins to drop)
6) Once gravity develops, then matter attracts more matter, creating gaps and openings, clumping it together. About this time is when we see hydrogen, a variety of other elements, and Dark Matter! This partly explains the formation of galaxies 500 million years after the bang.
This only partly explains the clumpiness. There is another variable...
Dark Energy!
7) Dark energy is a repulsive force, unlike gravity which is an attractive force. I do not know at what point dark energy develops. I have never seen anything on this yet.
8) Dark energy is thought to be the leading reason why there are great voids in our universe. A void is simply empty space between galaxies or filaments where there are few, if any, galaxies. it is thought that dark energy is pushing (repelling) against matter, creating the voids, and pushing matter (other galaxies) to the remote edges of other voids, thereby creating filaments, much the same way soap creates bubbles in the tub.
Make sense?
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but this explanation fails if there were no "bang", now doesn't it? =)
so, let's cut's the crap and go deep.
what is it that constrains a photon limiting it to only 180k/miles/second?
and try to explain it in lay terms if you wish?
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by the stearn tone of my voice, I was trying to psyche you out.
The answer is not that bad.............
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I thought the whole faster-than-light particles was determined debunk due to faulty wiring or loose connection on the Hadron Collider
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Photons can travel at the speed of light because they contain no mass. With no mass there's no inertia. So I'm at a little bit of a loss.
According to e=mc2 as energy increases so does the mass - limiting speed.
I'll return to this later. Gotta hide eggs for the little one
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Glad to see you have your priorities straight. I'm hoping mine will still be in bed when I get home (doubtful) so I can hide them. We did the whole Easteregg hunt yesterday though so if today is a miss no biggie.Photons can travel at the speed of light because they contain no mass. With no mass there's no inertia. So I'm at a little bit of a loss.
According to e=mc2 as energy increases so does the mass - limiting speed.
I'll return to this later. Gotta hide eggs for the little one
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Well...... She cried all morning lmao. Seems the Easter bitch came to the house instead of the Easter bunny haha.
She's got a double ear infection and she's been puking so we did what we could with her.
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Youre right..... I remember that. I think they claimed to find it but then took it back because of the faulty wiring or whatever. I don't think they debunked the whole theory though.
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Flag..... I was lookin stuff up and this reminded me of you lol. Fits into the science vs religion argument perfectly.
All theories are in fact educated guesses thought up by some of the most brilliant minds around, in order to try to explain observations made of the world and universe around us. These are then tested and re-tested, not only by the original scientists, but also independently, by hundreds and even thousands of scientists all around the world, in a process called "peer-review". They all try to reproduce the same results or try to use the theories to predict observable events. It may take 10, 20 or even 50 years, but after a period of time, the weight of evidence may be such that the theory becomes accepted as 'fact' by the general scientific community. However, the theory is continuously checked against all the latest evidence and other discoveries to either reinforce its fact status, or indeed to challenge and even disprove it. This is the beauty of science as opposed to a belief-based system like religion, which just accepts statements made by others without any reproducible evidence.
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A good read.....
http://psnt.net/jkid.pdf
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The beginning of this next read may seem stupid..... There's a lot of good info on antimatter and an antimatter bomb if you read on though.
http://www.lhc.ac.uk/resources/pdf/a...timatter07.pdf
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