Is it possible that I am maybe just a little too good looking?

**IronReload04** · 05-25-2009, 09:17 PM

oh my god, are you the guy who thought that steroids or working out or something changed how your face looked which is why college girls dont hit on you but older women do?

**Immortal Soldier** · 05-25-2009, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by IronReload04

oh my god, are you the guy who thought that steroids or working out or something changed how your face looked which is why college girls dont hit on you but older women do?

No....I made a thread on the fact that I have noticed that alot more older woman (28-40) hit on me/check me out compared to other girls, but I never said that steroids or working out changed my face? lol what does that even mean.

I said older woman check me out more, and someone said that being muscular and young shows older woman dedication or something.

***T-MOS*** · 05-25-2009, 09:21 PM

**Immortal Soldier** · 05-25-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

lol come on T-mos I ment this thread in a serious way, I guess I ****ed up in explaining it cuz I came off like a douche

***T-MOS*** · 05-25-2009, 09:25 PM

^^^ its cool. I am just in a bad mood and tired of hearing about all the freaking relationship threads on this board lately.....lolol

You would think we were on the Oprah Message Board or something

**IronReload04** · 05-25-2009, 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=Immortal Soldier;4650093]Oh there def. is the fear of being rejected especially when I am at this stage, I got the looks, I got the body, and I got the personality, so if I do get rejected by mind would simply trigger a defense mechanism saying "your just not muscular/cut enough yet get bigger"

Honestly, Good looks only take you so far. If you are good enough looking, their comes a point where confidence and personality will completely overshadow what your body looks like in her mind. If you have good enough game, you can get inside her head where, once she has gotten to know you, she would choose you over some perfect 11 she just met.

I think this is more applicable to trying to get a chick over time rather than

a. she is checking you out

b, you apprach

but still useful.

And just by reading this post, it sounds like you really need to stop giving a **** and chill the hell out. Work on the confidence.

**Immortal Soldier** · 05-25-2009, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

^^^ its cool. I am just in a bad mood and tired of hearing about all the freaking relationship threads on this board lately.....lolol

You would think we were on the Oprah Message Board or something

Haha I Feel you man, I am a bag of estrogen right now and seems like the whole board is. Next thing you know we will all be menstrating on the same days

But I talk to this board about things I cant really talk to with friends because sometimes they give me **** for it or tell me to stop being a bitch so talking to complete strangers is nice for a change.

[QUOTE=IronReload04;4652094]

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Oh there def. is the fear of being rejected especially when I am at this stage, I got the looks, I got the body, and I got the personality, so if I do get rejected by mind would simply trigger a defense mechanism saying "your just not muscular/cut enough yet get bigger"

Honestly, Good looks only take you so far. If you are good enough looking, their comes a point where confidence and personality will completely overshadow what your body looks like in her mind. If you have good enough game, you can get inside her head where, once she has gotten to know you, she would choose you over some perfect 11 she just met.

I think this is more applicable to trying to get a chick over time rather than

a. she is checking you out

b, you apprach

but still useful.

And just by reading this post, it sounds like you really need to stop giving a **** and chill the hell out. Work on the confidence.

True that my friend, I mean I am chill its just its all fun faking confidence and passing the **** to the girl and then sleeping with her and the next day being like "that did nothing to resolve the issues, she thinks I am a confident guy yet I am still the same"

This might sound really ***** or something, but lately I feel like I have this god damn hole inside me and no matter if I get hit on or hook up with a girl it doesnt fix the underlying issues, its like a temproary relief to the pain.

I mean I wont truly be confident till this trend keeps reoccuring and then my mind finally realizes that its not the 134lb low self esteem depressed high school prick I was 5 years ago but actually someone that is confident.

**Iron_Pig** · 05-25-2009, 09:34 PM

Somebody get the hip wadders it is getting really deep

**IronReload04** · 05-25-2009, 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=Immortal Soldier;4652105]Haha I Feel you man, I am a bag of estrogen right now and seems like the whole board is. Next thing you know we will all be menstrating on the same days

But I talk to this board about things I cant really talk to with friends because sometimes they give me **** for it or tell me to stop being a bitch so talking to complete strangers is nice for a change.

Originally Posted by IronReload04

True that my friend, I mean I am chill its just its all fun faking confidence and passing the **** to the girl and then sleeping with her and the next day being like "that did nothing to resolve the issues, she thinks I am a confident guy yet I am still the same"

This might sound really ***** or something, but lately I feel like I have this god damn hole inside me and no matter if I get hit on or hook up with a girl it doesnt fix the underlying issues, its like a temproary relief to the pain.

I mean I wont truly be confident till this trend keeps reoccuring and then my mind finally realizes that its not the 134lb low self esteem depressed high school prick I was 5 years ago but actually someone that is confident.

actually, I can almost relate. I am going through a body recomp myself right now. Going from huge offseason 22 percent bodyfat to getting down to 8-10 for the first time. I feel like I am having some psychological issues. Not necessarily negative. Been pretty much soft and 20-22ish my whole life, and getting down to 8-10 has got me looking like a completely different individual. RIght now, I feel like I am just not interested in dating for the time being. I feel like my mind is "waiting" until I look like what I feel I am supposed to look like, then my libido will pick back up after I am done transforming. IT feels very natural and positive.

Sounds like you could be going through something similar. Like maybe in the back of your mind, you want dating to be on hold unitl your body matches what your mind wants you to look like. But in your case, maybe your goals are unrealistic (for the time being). SO maybe work that out and think that over.

**operationgetbig** · 05-25-2009, 09:44 PM

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is.

**jbm** · 05-25-2009, 09:49 PM

let's all be happy!

**jbm** · 05-25-2009, 09:54 PM

**Bojangles69** · 05-25-2009, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

You hit the nail on the head, I wasn't trying to say "I am too good looking" to get girls what I was saying is that alot of times alot of better looking guys have on average less game than the average dude, in my case it deals with confidence and childhood, but that doesnt mean I dont know the "game" just I can implement it as much as I want to without seeming fake and letting the girl know I have "internal issues"

So i didnt mean to say I am too good looking and I was scuplted by the gods or anything like that, I mean I will be honest I would be the first person to tell myself how I am not good looking or how I dont like this about my face or body or whatever, but people tell me otherwise so thats what I was going on. If you asked me if I thought I was good looking nine times of ten I would say I am average only because I have zero confidence in myself, that one time where I would say yes would be me having a good day. But thanks for making me feel like a total douche guys

Ahh ok I hear you.

I have some things to say because as much as I feel bad for a guy whos not getting laid like he wants, I feel a thousand times worse when that guy admits he has 0 confidence in himself.

I just need to rethink my response in a way where we can stop placing so much value on a single word "confidence". Just some new ways of looking at what confidence really is and isnt.
Because you can tell yourself "I have 0 confidence in myself" but then live a life that doesn't appear that way. I've seen guys who actually act/behave very confident in a lot of situations in life but then they have this one situation where they're never confident and THAT ONE SITUATION becomes what they build their entire identity on.

So I'll be back, I dont think your problem is confidence, I think your actually telling yourself that to AVOID a very specific situation that has everything to do with control.
I just need a way to communicate exactly what Im thinking so Ill be back when I get the words lol

**Immortal Soldier** · 05-25-2009, 10:15 PM

[QUOTE=IronReload04;4652123]

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Haha I Feel you man, I am a bag of estrogen right now and seems like the whole board is. Next thing you know we will all be menstrating on the same days

But I talk to this board about things I cant really talk to with friends because sometimes they give me **** for it or tell me to stop being a bitch so talking to complete strangers is nice for a change.

actually, I can almost relate. I am going through a body recomp myself right now. Going from huge offseason 22 percent bodyfat to getting down to 8-10 for the first time. I feel like I am having some psychological issues. Not necessarily negative. Been pretty much soft and 20-22ish my whole life, and getting down to 8-10 has got me looking like a completely different individual. RIght now, I feel like I am just not interested in dating for the time being. I feel like my mind is "waiting" until I look like what I feel I am supposed to look like, then my libido will pick back up after I am done transforming. IT feels very natural and positive.

Sounds like you could be going through something similar. Like maybe in the back of your mind, you want dating to be on hold unitl your body matches what your mind wants you to look like. But in your case, maybe your goals are unrealistic (for the time being). SO maybe work that out and think that over.

You hit the nail on the head my friend. I have this "goal" I want to be near Arnold's body type, but a little bit less because I think he was still too big and I dont want to cross that "barrier" Im 6'1 and 215-220 9-10% bf and he was 6'2 235-240 6-7% on stage so I feel like if I can reach that goal (no nessicarly looking like Arnold but hitting 230-235 than I wil be fully confident)

I mean I will tell you an instance that happen, this girl really liked me and she gave me her number and showed me all the tall tale signs and everything and I met her for coffee on campus then unfortunately at the same time i began starting my cycle. So what ended up happening was I never called her again and just focused on lifting. Throughout my cycle, my friends would say "yo so and so said they say you and campus they talk about you alot" but in my mind I was more worried about reaching my goal than trying hook up with these girls or get a girlfriend.

I mean one of the reasons is everytime I get with a girl its like she tries to move me away from lifting, you know trying to get me to "tone it down" so I end up actually losing weight or progress because these girls try to keep me distracted all the time or my diet gets hindered because im busy with them or something. So I made it a point on cycle to not them let them coming in teh way unless it was just going to be a quick **** and not "hey come over lets watch a movie or lets go to soo and so place have a drink"

Originally Posted by Bojangles69

Ahh ok I hear you.

I have some things to say because as much as I feel bad for a guy whos not getting laid like he wants, I feel a thousand times worse when that guy admits he has 0 confidence in himself.

I just need to rethink my response in a way where we can stop placing so much value on a single word "confidence". Just some new ways of looking at what confidence really is and isnt.
Because you can tell yourself "I have 0 confidence in myself" but then live a life that doesn't appear that way. I've seen guys who actually act/behave very confident in a lot of situations in life but then they have this one situation where they're never confident and THAT ONE SITUATION becomes what they build their entire identity on.

So I'll be back, I dont think your problem is confidence, I think your actually telling yourself that to AVOID a very specific situation that has everything to do with control.
I just need a way to communicate exactly what Im thinking so Ill be back when I get the words lol

I think your right because I am confident in non-social areas (in class, at the mall, beach, stores, gym, wherever) but when you put me in a social scene (bar, club, some random persons party) I end up losing that "swagger" and since I dont drink (one its mental I think it makes me smaller, and two I do steroids ) it makes me stick out like a sore thumb, everyone is drunk and I am sober and if a girl hits on me and comes on to me when she is drunk and I am completely sober I feel like a sleeze if I hook up with her.

So its foreign situations that I freeze, if I am with a group of people at the bar thats cool. If I am with a group of people at a club its different.

**Chitown Raider** · 05-26-2009, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by jbm

jbm, who is this slut? I could've sworn I seen her on dvd at least once.

**jbm** · 05-26-2009, 03:48 AM

I'll research on it!

**vpchill** · 05-26-2009, 04:37 AM

Ok, Here is what we will do. I am charging $69.75 for confidence seminars. I will teach anyone how to be more confident.

lol

You and only you can work on your confidence bro. You feel you look too good from the title. You gotta believe it, dont just say it. We all Train hard and diet to look good, some people will tell you they looked terrible until picking up weights. They gained confidence by believing in themselves. I was born confident, unfortunately and fortunately I have passed that trait to my children cause they too can some times be ass****s. You cant fake confidence, someone also mentioned swag? Well thats part of confidence. If you walk with your head high and believe in you, other people will notice that.
jmo. Im taking the 1st 100 posters, they will get my VP special 10% discount on my seminar!

**Z-Ro** · 05-26-2009, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Like I said, most of the gestures don't happen at bars, if they did I wouldn't take them seriously because the girl could be A) Drunk B) doing it to some dude behind me lol or something

Gestures I get are in daily activities and places I go during the day something as simple as a "checkout" (looking you up and down), or a girl literally staring at me and not breaking eye contact, all the way to I have had girls wave at me, I had cougars comment me on my looks, girl tell me to take of my shirt when I was eating, and I have been with a girl and whenever I walked away all her friends or whatever would say "your boyfriend is hot" when in reality that girl is like a sister to me lol.

So it all varies, but it happens I dont want to make it seem like it happens alot or all the time because then I wouldnt have this problem. Also I am not in alot of social scenes because of my dedication to working out and work so when I do get a chance to go to the beach/mall/party thats where I notice the "gestures".

I just wanted to clarify something I didnt mean to come off as saying "I am too good looking" and if I did I aplogize as you guys can tell I am not an igronant prick so I didnt mean to come off that way, what I ment was being above average in looks and having a musclar body i think that puts girls off in teh sense that a girl when she looks at an average guy knows HE has to impress her since she thinks she has more VALUE over him, but a good looking guy she sees VALUE in him before he even talks (now if he sucks and has no confidence than the ship sinks right there)

You hit the nail on the head, I wasn't trying to say "I am too good looking" to get girls what I was saying is that alot of times alot of better looking guys have on average less game than the average dude, in my case it deals with confidence and childhood, but that doesnt mean I dont know the "game" just I can implement it as much as I want to without seeming fake and letting the girl know I have "internal issues"

So i didnt mean to say I am too good looking and I was scuplted by the gods or anything like that, I mean I will be honest I would be the first person to tell myself how I am not good looking or how I dont like this about my face or body or whatever, but people tell me otherwise so thats what I was going on. If you asked me if I thought I was good looking nine times of ten I would say I am average only because I have zero confidence in myself, that one time where I would say yes would be me having a good day. But thanks for making me feel like a total douche guys

I understood what you meant brotha, no harm no foul!

Good post Bo!

**Z-Ro** · 05-26-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Chitown Raider

jbm, who is this slut? I could've sworn I seen her on dvd at least once.

Oh ****! That's my girl! ****!

**bushido3374** · 05-26-2009, 11:04 AM

Hey Immortal, ignore the haters. If they took the time to click on this thread and post a reply, then they shouldn't complain afterwards. That never made sense to me anyway. Thre are alot of replies, which tells me that some posters find the subject worth responding to.

RA · 05-26-2009, 11:30 AM

A lot of people like to let someone know when theyre being an ass.

Not that immortal is...

Originally Posted by bushido3374

Hey Immortal, ignore the haters. If they took the time to click on this thread and post a reply, then they shouldn't complain afterwards. That never made sense to me anyway. Thre are alot of replies, which tells me that some posters find the subject worth responding to.

**Chitown Raider** · 05-26-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by jbm

I'll research on it!

Thanks!

**eatrainrest** · 05-26-2009, 10:24 PM

be yourself and stick in her ace

**bushido3374** · 05-26-2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by RA

A lot of people like to let someone know when theyre being an ass.

Not that immortal is...

I know. It's just hard enough sometimes for men especially to try to figure out relationships. Alot of us didn't have the best examples set for us growing up by our parents. It's not like most of us are going to watch Oprah on how to have healthy relationships, or cosmo. This is a place where men can ask and try to figure things out like men. I feel bad for guys that get flamed for asking questions that most every other man has asked from time to time.

**remotely queued** · 05-26-2009, 11:56 PM

i work on subliminal messages.

just walk up to some chick that was checking you out and be all like

"**** it's so ****ing hot in here."

"i'm getting so ****ing wet from all this heat...im so hot and sweaty right now..."

it helps if you kinda rub yourself when you do it.

if she laughs that's about 1 step closer to finger blasting the hell out of her.

next if she says

"wow i'm really hot too"

say "you can't even spell hot."

you can pretty much say "you can't even spell..." to anything she says but say it with a smile. and as long as you're not a troll it should work.

if it doesnt work then you might need too look into steroids for your face and i can't help you there. or something.

make sure you smell clean too. good breath. Not "oh shit i forgot to shower" or if you live with a bunch of dogs in your house you smell like ass. i work in peoples houses all the time and they don't think they smell but they do. try to get a "clean smell going on"

see how my pick up line is insulting.

girls like dick...so don't be afraid to be one.

RA · 05-27-2009, 10:22 AM

Good point.

Originally Posted by bushido3374

I know. It's just hard enough sometimes for men especially to try to figure out relationships. Alot of us didn't have the best examples set for us growing up by our parents. It's not like most of us are going to watch Oprah on how to have healthy relationships, or cosmo. This is a place where men can ask and try to figure things out like men. I feel bad for guys that get flamed for asking questions that most every other man has asked from time to time.