i get shit for this but explain it to me

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 12:43 PM

1st thing 1st im not talking about myself im 25.

few of the up and cuming boys in the gym are all pumped up with gear taken in range of 4ml to 8ml of sust a week, they age is averging from 17 to 21 and they huge they diet is all to f**k so how is food so important is it just thier genies or what they dont have a off cycle well not many of them hardly any i post some pics of them to show you

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 12:46 PM

here few more at 21year old this guy benching way over 200kg with easy

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 12:48 PM

2 20year olds and 24

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-15-2009, 12:50 PM

Are those pictures of you or pictures of the guys in the gym?

England has a huge problem with young kids taking steroids , its a disaster over there, kids as young as 13 are juicing.

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 12:52 PM

18year old and 21year old

***FireGuy*** · 06-15-2009, 12:54 PM

Huge? All but one or two of them look like abercombie models.

**bjpennnn** · 06-15-2009, 12:55 PM

hahahaaha looks like some pics dsm would post. well they will pay for it later and will def. if they dont pct correctly.

**Dukkit** · 06-15-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by lee.jones73

18year old and 21year old

looks like dude on the left has gyno.

but yep. kids using gear is def a problem.

99% of them dont know proper diet, training, let alone proper ways to run the gear and pct

oh well. they will pay for it in a few years when they have to go on TRT for life

**ninesecz** · 06-15-2009, 12:57 PM

what is it you are asking??? will steroids make you get big even if you do not ear right, Probably Will you retain any of this after you come off Probably not! Do genetics have a lot to do with it.. Absolutely! So basically in a nut shell anyone with half a brain can take roids and get big but when they come off them later they are going to shrink and have limp dick and a bunch of other shit! Most of these guys you are showing us probably know that they shrink off cycle and most likely go from one cycle to another. People on this site to to offer advice on how to do a cycle the correct Way!

**Dukkit** · 06-15-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Huge? All but one or two of them look like abercombie models.

lol
guess they are huge in england terms

**chuckt12345** · 06-15-2009, 01:00 PM

how fkn gay you gotta be to take your clothes off to flex in a club. Talk about some c class.

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Are those pictures of you or pictures of the guys in the gym?

England has a huge problem with young kids taking steroids, its a disaster over there, kids as young as 13 are juicing.

my mates i train with in the gym well all friends but it is rediclus some even younger could show you even more and younger when i was 14 -15 -16years of age i used to have my pocket money and buy flagon of cider and drink it in the park and have a laugh these days youngers having money and buying gear really bad even school kids.

this is me during cutting cycle and bulking and pct at 25

**bjpennnn** · 06-15-2009, 01:02 PM

not now cheif...i am in the zone

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 01:09 PM

all im saying is i agree with you guys buy when more than half of people say diet is a huge part of bodybuilding well it is but these guys go out every weekend and get smashed and take d***s and still look like that

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-15-2009, 01:13 PM

I dont even know what your asking bro, your posting pics of a bunch of dudes who really aren't big or huge. Only 1 or 2 look like they use juice the rest look lean.

So what is your question?

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-15-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by lee.jones73

take d***s and still look like that

They take d1cks?

haha

Bro, it is possible to get big off steroids with a shitty diet and clubbin every night, but you LIMIT your gains.

Let me tell you a story, me and my friend ran the exact same cycle and dosage. I gained 20lbs at the end of my cycle and he gained 10lbs, we used the exact same dosage and gear.

What was the difference? My diet was better and I wasn't partying. I mean he really didn't drink when he was on but he was still at clubs and stuff at night instead of getting rest and thus both his sleep and diet suffered.

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

I dont even know what your asking bro, your posting pics of a bunch of dudes who really aren't big or huge. Only 1 or 2 look like they use juice the rest look lean.

So what is your question?

thats just a hand full i took off my facebook and they only aged between 17 and 21 i could go and find bigga juiceheads which i train with but take too long lol just saying there alot of stupid people out there and alot of people just go on about dieting is the way

talking about that i got to eat some food now haha 4hrs have past

since been off the gear my appitite have gone through the roof

**D-Money** · 06-15-2009, 01:30 PM

They look like ur typical test junkies found on college campuses and nightclubs nationwide. Yes they are more muscular then ur average college kid, nothin out of the ordinary. Keep track of these guys and see if they stick with the bodybuilding lifestyle, and retain their size when off cycle...

**glover** · 06-15-2009, 01:42 PM

Are you sure they are juicing they look natural to me..

**chuckt12345** · 06-15-2009, 01:43 PM

prrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooteeeeeeeeeeee eein

**xo3et** · 06-15-2009, 01:48 PM

same thing where i live, so many people on gear its a joke. They eat crap and i always see them out drinking.

Each to there own but i am in this for solid gains which i keep, not ones i piss up the wall trying to look cool.

**Bio-boosted** · 06-15-2009, 01:49 PM

Who gives a sh!t. Do your own thing

**TractionIssues** · 06-15-2009, 01:54 PM

their diet is shit, and it shows. don't follow that path.

**kojak_x** · 06-15-2009, 02:02 PM

The fact of the matter is, you can see more results on a cycle then the most dedicated bodybuilder doing it natural for years.

**Dancer** · 06-15-2009, 02:06 PM

So I am lost why all the pics and where is the question thats not answered that needs to be answered.

**chuckt12345** · 06-15-2009, 02:06 PM

^agree,, also believe genetics blow diet away when it comes down to the nitty grits

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-15-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

^agree,, also believe genetics blow diet away when it comes down to the nitty grits

Agreed, I eat like a pig on cycle and off: I mean I eat around 150+grams of fat, 300-400+ grams of carbs and I still maintain my six pack and hell on cycle I GET LEANER while going up in weight.

I have yet to ever run a cutter in my life and never plan to, why do a cutting diet when your genetics are good enough for you not to need it?

**Matt** · 06-15-2009, 02:11 PM

None of the look that big to me...

***FireGuy*** · 06-15-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by kojak_x

The fact of the matter is, you can see more results on a cycle then the most dedicated bodybuilder doing it natural for years.

LMAO! I know MANY natural guys that will wipe the stage with guys on cycle no problem.

**skinnykenney** · 06-15-2009, 02:18 PM

when you are young like that you eat a ton even if it is some crap food but they are definately still very active at that age and eat and sleep alot more than you probably think.
they are hitting a lot of gear though and are really going to pay for it.
the one guy with the booze in his hand says it all.
his body is going to change some day and his metabolism will slow and he id for sure going to look like a fat pig soon after this happens.don't take a page from thier book Bro!
everyone responds diferently to gear and training.don't let it discourage you.I am a slow gainer myself no matter what I do so just accept it like me and be patient.in the end you will be happy with your body just train and eat right and wait for the best things to come!

**lee.jones73** · 06-15-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by glover

Are you sure they are juicing they look natural to me..

lol theses people are proply still not allowed to drink in amercia they are kids

**c-Z** · 06-15-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

None of the look that big to me...

Agreed... Some are cut and everything... But none look LIKE MASSIVE. The one dude like 2nd post of pics has some good size. But he just looks thicker all around.

**british bulldog 1** · 06-15-2009, 04:12 PM

if your on gear your diet dont matter.

i ate shit and went clubbing for 6 weeks while on test e and dbol and look buff.
all down to genetics

**warchild** · 06-15-2009, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

if your on gear your diet dont matter.

i ate shit and went clubbing for 6 weeks while on test e and dbol and look buff.
all down to genetics

yea everyone looks buff in their own eyes...

**c-Z** · 06-15-2009, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

if your on gear your diet dont matter.

i ate shit and went clubbing for 6 weeks while on test e and dbol and look buff.
all down to genetics

Are you joking? Diet is one of the most important things. Please just edit that comment before some idiot kid comes on here and sees that.... You sound like an idiot..... Anyone else will vouche this. As well as all vets/mods. DIET is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

**amcon** · 06-15-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by kojak_x

The fact of the matter is, you can see more results on a cycle then the most dedicated bodybuilder doing it natural for years.

i disagree, diet is 80 percent of the game...

**Matt** · 06-15-2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

if your on gear your diet dont matter.

i ate shit and went clubbing for 6 weeks while on test e and dbol and look buff.
all down to genetics

Post a picture...

With statements like that im betting your 140lbs wet through...

**MACKATTACK** · 06-15-2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

if your on gear your diet dont matter.

i ate shit and went clubbing for 6 weeks while on test e and dbol and look buff.
all down to genetics

This is the second HORRBILE POST, I have seen from you today and your knowledge is severely lacking and your opinnions are HORRIBLE. Do us a favor and leave the site. Thanks.

***FireGuy*** · 06-15-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Post a picture...

With statements like that im betting your 140lbs wet through...

Actually there was a thread where he mentioned his weight and I believe it was in the 150's so you are not too far off.

**c-Z** · 06-15-2009, 04:47 PM

Well this is the guy who runs 3-4 cycles per year 4/27/09:

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

normally 3 - 4 cyles a year

And then on 4/23/09 Doesn't know how long to wait until another cycle:

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

i have just finished a 8 weeks course. how long do i have to wait before i can do another course?

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

steroids dont make you build muscle or loose fat they just help the process if your diet and training are perfect.

Originally Posted by british bulldog 1

guys really need your help, i have a fight in 2 months and need to get to 6% bodyfat to make the weigh in. Please have a look at my diet. Its probably not the best but thats why im showing you guys.

can you change it where necesary and replace it with what you think.

28 years old
75 kg (165lbs)
5ft 9
11-13% bf

Thats buff? 5'9 165lbs? You shouldn't even be on here. You should be in the diet section. Your knowledge is lacking. Please stop giving out poor advice. Your opinions seem to change post to post.