Well - hitting my first cycle in a week or so - gear came in today. So uhh, I'm pretty fvcking stoked right about now haha. Just an FYI - and thank you to everyone who's lended their advice.
Well - hitting my first cycle in a week or so - gear came in today. So uhh, I'm pretty fvcking stoked right about now haha. Just an FYI - and thank you to everyone who's lended their advice.
Thats what were here for bro!!goodluck with your cycle
Good Luck. Wellcome to the darksyde![]()
True that - haven't been this excited regarding the gym in a while...Good Luck. Wellcome to the darksyde
5'8''
186 dry, this morning.
I'd like to see 200 come and stay haha.
ive never felt so fat.... 14%... im a big fatty..lol
My diet is in check - had a lot of help on the forum perfecting it for the duration of the cycle (when to add intake contrasted with weight)... I didn't want to have TOO high of expectations haha![]()
1-5 50mg Dbol ED
1-12 500mg Test En (250/2x per week)
Nolva 40,40,20,20 and Clomid (figuring out how I'm going to run Cl this week)
I mean, typical first cycle, hopefully yields good results though.
Thanks for the advice. I'll double check that this week.
i'd run the clomid 100/50/50/50
bro u are going to grow.
u have really taken the time to learn, and now all that hard work will pay off..
good luck man, keep me posted on ur gains,
Will do buddy - I'll probably post a thread in Cycle Progress Forum or something, not sure.bro u are going to grow.
u have really taken the time to learn, and now all that hard work will pay off..
good luck man, keep me posted on ur gains,
Why you guys insist on running multi substances for a first cycle i will never know. Im not even going to waste my breath anymore....
Well I mean I've been posting about wanting to do competitions, and I believe that maximizing my gains before 2010 would be beneficial as long as I do it in a safe way. Which I believe I am.
No - obviously my words came across wrong. I respect your opinion obviously DSM, this is my first cycle and your definitely well versed in the subject.
But you feel that running say Test En alone, without any kick-start - I will yield the same results as if I DID have a kick-start? I don't follow that...
Say you run both and the cycle goes horrible. You feel like cra, break out with a lot of acne and cant to save your life. How you doing to know which substance caused the horrible sides ?
This is the problem with taking more than one substance. People try to fight me on this all the time but its common sense.
I'm not trying to fight you on it DSM - hardly, I'm just trying to learn more. You never stop learning, right? Trying to explain my point.
Well from my research I've heard that DBol will kick in around days 4-7, agreed? Test En around WK 4 (Though sides can show up sooner). For the Test injections to dramatically lower your natural production - blood tests show that will happen around week 2, when the Test is circulating in your system efficiently.
If I get unbearable sides in the first two weeks, then it would be the Dbol, from my beliefs. And also - say no side effects happened until weeks 2-5, once off the Dbol, if that was the problem started - the sides would subside correct? Also - sides such as gyno are preventable through Adex which I'll be taken.
If you completely disagree please explain, I really am trying to hear your thoughts on the subject more.
Excuse me if i sound like im yelling at you but i get so frustrated when this topic comes up. People on these boards run retardedly (nice word choice huh ?) high cycles and i think its a waste (for 99% of the members here).
My advise is start as small as you can. First cycle 500mg 2x a week test e is perfect. You will be MORE than happy with this cycle.
Again its just my opinion but remember this "race" is a marathon.
Thanks Moose, I'm actually going to be trying out some new meal ideas, so I'll get all that Wed. Add a little extra fat, maybe switch from Flax to Fish Oil pre-workout, ground turkey which I haven't had in a diet plan before. So I'm pretty pumped about that on top of going from natural to... not so... haha.
Good to go DSM - I appreciate it man. I haven't started the cycle yet, have another week, so I'll mull over what you've said. Hopefully regardless if I follow your advice or not you head over to check out my log on Monday.
alotta people start with the test and dbol for their first cycle..
we recommend you only do a test cycle so you know what goes wrong if it goes wrong..
DSM is making a great point...
either way be careful.. do you have any anc drugs with you when you start cycle?? a-dex?? nolva??
I have Nolva and Clomid for PCT or incase things get bad, which I'm hoping doesn't occur, obviously. I also have A-dex that I'm more and more debating running the entire duration to prevent any gyno problems.
good luck bro, let us know how is goes.
damn i'm in so much envy right now... a cycle would be the answer to all my fitness hopes and dreams right now
Good Luck broski!
Good luck bro, will be waiting for the log to start.
xnotoriousx i am as keen as you to start a cycle, not long for me now dude![]()
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