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09-28-2009, 03:38 PM #41
I live to get as sexy as possible!
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09-28-2009, 07:26 PM #42
it used to be for myself but know I must be growing up because I have to say my VERY loving wife and 2 great kids
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09-28-2009, 07:33 PM #43
to have sex with hot ladies....
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09-29-2009, 04:00 AM #44Anabolic Member
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09-29-2009, 04:43 AM #45
To learn, evolve, and get off this fvcking planet
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11-04-2009, 02:41 PM #46
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11-04-2009, 02:47 PM #47
We live for the things that feel great and the pursuit of happiness.
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11-04-2009, 02:56 PM #48
I don't know why we are living..... we could have a purpose.... we could be a 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance freak "happening".....
I really don't know..... but I try to make my life the best it can be.
~Haz~
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11-04-2009, 03:00 PM #49
Here's something else to think about......
I we don't have a purpose and we really are just an accident...... thats one rare accident! BUT..... there's got to be something even more rare out there that can happen. If we were made form the right combination of molecules - what if there is a place out there in space where an even RARER event occured and created something more advanced than us.....
What if that even more rare event occurs and it happens to be the one that wipes US out?
Just some food for thought.....
~Haz~
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11-04-2009, 03:12 PM #50
How the Hell did I miss this thread!
Hazard touches on something here, I think our planet is part of a process known as The Rare Earth Hypothesis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_Hypothesis
This is something ive believed in for a long time now, that it's because of the right conditions of this planet that we're here at all...right distance from the sun so its never too hot or too cold, the fact we have one moon, gas giants like Jupitor and Saturn that act as massive shields, i mean if it wasn't for them this planet would have been hit by tons of asteroids, instead of just 5 in 5.4 billions years of life on earth.
The universe is vast and for that very reason, if the Rare Earth Hypothesis is true, then by going by how many stars are estimated to be in our milky way, then the same circumstances that enabled life to happen here, would be true on 1 million other planets in the Milky Way. Thats a calculation of at least 1 million other Rare Earth Hypothesis like planets in the Milky Way alone. Thats pretty cool in itself, yet each of us is probably way to far apart to ever communicate.
What is interesting though, and it'll help answer the OP's question, is that life is truly fascinating and if there's a sliver of a chance for life to occur, it will fill that niche. Look at underwater volcanoes, the fact life can exist there is mind boggling. We're here for the same reason any other animal is here, because Natural Selection has brought us to this juncture in our species existance.
The nature of life is to evolve and survive. Otherwise you stagnate and die.
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11-04-2009, 03:18 PM #51
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11-04-2009, 03:21 PM #52
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11-04-2009, 03:23 PM #53
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11-04-2009, 03:25 PM #54
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11-04-2009, 03:25 PM #55
even though i have no clue why im living sometimes lol.....
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11-04-2009, 03:30 PM #56
We live to get huge... or die trying.
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11-04-2009, 04:44 PM #57
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women.
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11-04-2009, 05:03 PM #58
Antares (α Scorpii / Alpha Scorpii) is a red supergiant star in the Milky Way galaxy and the sixteenth brightest star in the nighttime sky (sometimes listed as fifteenth brightest, if the two brighter components of the Capella quadruple star system are counted as one star). Along with Aldebaran, Spica, and Regulus it is one of the four brightest stars near the ecliptic. Antares is a variable star, whose apparent magnitude varies from +0.9 to +1.8
Antares is a class M supergiant star, with a radius of approximately 800 times that of the sun; if it were placed in the center of our solar system, its outer surface would lie between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Antares is approximately 600 light-years (180 pc) from our solar system. Its visual luminosity is about 10,000 times that of the Sun, but because the star radiates a considerable part of its energy in the infrared part of the spectrum, the bolometric luminosity equals roughly 65,000 times that of the Sun. The mass of the star is calculated to be 15 to 18 solar masses.[2] Its large size and relatively small mass give Antares a very low average density.
The size of Antares may be calculated using its parallax and angular diameter. The parallax angle is given in the Starbox to the right, and the angular diameter is known from lunar occultation measurements (41.3 ± 0.1 mas)[3]. This leads to a radius of 822 ± 80 solar radii.
The best time to view Antares is on or around May 31 of each year, when the star is at opposition to the Sun. At this time, Antares rises at dusk and sets at dawn, and is thus in view all night. For approximately two to three weeks on either side of November 30, Antares is not visible at all, being lost in the Sun's glare; this period of invisibility is longer in the Northern Hemisphere than in the Southern Hemisphere, since the star's declination is significantly south of the celestial equator.
[edit] Companion star
Antares has a hot blue companion star, Antares B, of spectral type B2.5 at a separation of about 2.9 arcseconds, or 550 AUs at Antares' estimated distance.[2] At magnitude 5.5, it is only 1/370th as bright visually as Antares A, although it shines with 170 times the Sun's luminosity. It is normally difficult to see in small telescopes due to Antares' glare, but becomes easy in apertures over 150 mm (5.9 in).[4] The companion is often described as green, but this is probably a contrast effect.[2] Antares B can be observed with a small telescope for a few seconds during lunar occultations while Antares itself is hidden by the Moon; it was discovered during one such occultation on April 13, 1819.
The orbit is poorly known, with an estimated period of 878 years.
Position on the ecliptic
Antares is one of the 4 first magnitude stars that lies within 5° of the ecliptic and therefore can be occulted by the Moon and rarely by the planets. On 31 July 2009, Antares was occulted by the moon. The event was visible in much of southern Asia and the Middle East.[5][6] On 17 November 2400 Antares will be occulted by Venus[citation needed]. Every year around December 2 the Sun passes 5° north of Antares.
Of the 21 firs*****nitude stars, Antares now lies farthest in angular distance from any other firs*****nitude star; i.e. it is possible to draw a larger circle centered around Antares without including any other firs*****nitude star inside that circle, than around any other firs*****nitude star. The nearest firs*****nitude star to Antares is Alpha Centauri, lying approximately 39°6.75′ away. The high proper motion of Alpha Centauri is gradually increasing this angle. Before about March 2000, Achernar and Fomalhaut held this distinction of being the most isolated from other firs*****nitude stars.[citation needed]
[edit] Antares in ancient cultures
Antares' name derives from the Ancient Greek Αντάρης, meaning "(holds) against Ares (Mars)", due to the similarity of its reddish hue to the appearance of the planet Mars. It is the brightest star in the constellation Scorpius. Its distinctive coloration has made the star an object of interest to many societies throughout history. According to ancient Arab tradition, Antares is the warrior-poet Antar's star[citation needed]. Many of the old Egyptian temples are oriented so that the light of Antares plays a role in the ceremonies performed there. Antares was also known as Satevis in ancient Persia and was one of the four "royal stars" of the Persians around 3000 BC[citation needed]. It was also known as Jyeshtha in ancient India. In the religion of Stregheria, Antares is a fallen angel and quarter guardian of the western gate. In astrology, Antares is one of the Behenian fixed stars and has the symbol .[7]
An old Arabic name was Ķalb al Άķrab, the 'Scorpion's heart.' This had been directly translated from the Ancient Greek Καρδια Σκορπιου Kardia Scorpiou and Latin Cor Scorpii.[7]
The Wotjobaluk Koori people of Victoria knew Antares as Djuit, son of Marpean-kurrk (Arcturus); the stars on each side represented his wives. The Kulin Kooris saw Antares (Balayang) as the brother of Bunjil (Altair).[8]
~Haz~
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11-04-2009, 08:25 PM #59
We are here to fvck like animals, overpopulate the planet, then wreak genocide and end our species completely.
Thats why I say lets try and get it done a little faster..
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11-04-2009, 09:16 PM #60
too enjoy life by listening to thrash metal and smoking dope
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11-05-2009, 08:20 PM #61
How did the star trek saying go? "Live long and prosper."
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11-05-2009, 09:03 PM #62Banned
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11-06-2009, 03:08 AM #63
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11-06-2009, 03:51 AM #64
Seeing those to-scale images really makes one see how ridiculously unimportant leaving a legacy really is. What's important is just trying to be happy and being the best possible person you can be, cuz in the end nothing ANYONE does matters whatsoever.
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11-06-2009, 06:00 AM #66
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11-06-2009, 06:28 AM #67
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11-06-2009, 12:41 PM #68
Im leaving mainly for my own personal personal gratifications. In my next life I will be more of a humanitarian.
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01-22-2010, 05:14 AM #69
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01-22-2010, 07:18 AM #70Anabolic Member
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has anyone considered that we live for nothing?
that like ever other animal we are just the result after years of evolution?
and the idea that ' we are living for something, or whats our purpose' is just a creation and an idea in our mind?
since we have by far the most developed brains compared to any other species. then its completely possible that we just created this idea
maybe our idea of having a purpose is just that, 'an idea'
the human mind is a complex thing that we still struggle to understand completely
but a sad thing is in the end of the day, everything you feel (love, sadness, embaressment, happyness, courage, fear), every emotion u have, ever idea u create, everything you think is just cells and reactions in your brain taking place.
all with the purpose of one thing
to try keep you alive and survive,
in the end of the day everything you feel means only something to you
becuase your brain (mind) is you
'homeostasis' it applies to everything within our body, including your brain, so evrytime you think something, its only becuase its what your brain after years of evolution has been designed to do
our minds are what maintains our survival
the ability to think is mankinds real weapon
but maybe we dont have a purpose and like everything else we will evolve or become extinct eventually..........
and the ability to debate or think we have a purpose, or think that maybe our purpose is (whatever you believe) is just your brain thinking about your survival, like every other creature on this planet
we could argue what our purpose is, but it seems that like every other human we all want to survive
no one wants to die tomrow, and that is what effects our judgement everyday of our lives (even when you think about what our purpose is)Last edited by ranging1; 01-22-2010 at 07:25 AM.
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01-22-2010, 08:32 AM #71
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01-22-2010, 10:00 AM #72
Pu&&s......... what else???
Seriously, I believe that the purpose of life is well beyond our grasp. We are to primetive of a creature to understand a concept greater than ourselves. We kill the innocent for oil, or who's god is right...... come on.
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01-22-2010, 10:09 AM #73
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01-22-2010, 01:24 PM #74
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01-22-2010, 01:41 PM #75
To reproduce and conquer.
The vast majority of our actions is to maintain the human race. I'm aware we have wars and kill each other, but thats nothing out of the ordinary. Our very purpose is survive.Last edited by Swifto; 01-22-2010 at 01:43 PM.
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01-22-2010, 01:51 PM #76Anabolic Member
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BJJ,
Why does it matter?
Think about that one for a while. I was faced with this in a theology course and the insturctor make a point would it cause any difference in your life if there was a reason for living*.
The few with children of course pointed to the fact thier life was for no reason above thier kids. The others of us reflected that even without a over all purpose in mind this course of life would not change.
*over-all purpose known or not known to us.Last edited by FranciscoG; 01-22-2010 at 01:55 PM.
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01-22-2010, 04:26 PM #77
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01-22-2010, 04:33 PM #78
A great difference. If we knew we live for nothing there would be anarchy all over the world and in a few decades, probably, we would be extinct by the violence.
The fact that we, as biological organisms, are set up to generate one life after another and that our primordial instinct is set up to make us survive, no matter what, just shows that there must be a meaning otherwise what just written would not occur, we would not be meant to keep going ahead as humanity.
The meaning is inborn within ourselves.
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01-22-2010, 04:42 PM #79
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01-22-2010, 04:45 PM #80
Ranging makes a very good point about evolution
and to the op, nobody knows all we can do is believe what we believe and speculate
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