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    HOW BAD ARE COOKING OILS .. Really bad

    This is a article by the Father of Fats (DR Udo Erasmus) .. I wanted to post this as it really has been a eye opener for many people.. I have told peeps for many many years about cooking oils containing some really nasty ingredients like NaOH ( which is used in Drano to burn clogged sinks open..)

    if that was not bad enough cooking oil also contains H3P04( a very harsh acid used in Windex for degreasing windows).. This is all done so they can extend the shelf life of the cooking oil... Insane ... Adding these crazy ass harsh chemicals so they can increase shelf life and make more $$$$... I think the best day of my life was when I cut out eating processed oils.... Check out Udo's article about it ...




    HOW BAD ARE COOKING OILS?

    by Udo Erasmus

    Cooking oils are highly processed, using manufacturing methods that are destructive to oil molecules. These practices are utilized primarily to lengthen and stabilize the shelf life of oils. Because many people are unaware of the methods used to make these oils, I thought I would offer an explanation of the cooking oil industry's manufacturing secrets.

    After oils are pressed or solvent extracted from seeds and nuts, they are degummed, refined, bleached, and deodorized. The result is known as an RBD (refined, bleached, deodorized oil) and these oils, as a result, become colorless, odorless, and tasteless. Sellers recommend these oils for salads, baking, and frying.

    What many people don't know is that valuable 'minor ingredients' including antioxidants, phytosterols, chlorophyll, flavor molecules, color molecules, lecithin, and other oil-soluble beneficial molecules are removed too.


    In addition, 0.5 to 1% of the oil molecules themselves are damaged during the processing. Some of these molecules have been isolated, tested with animals, and found to be very toxic. The damaged molecules found in cooking oils are much more toxic than the trans- fats which, according to the Harvard School of Public Health, double the risk of heart attacks, kill at least 30,000 people in the US every year, and increase diabetes.



    To make cooking oils, the industry treats them with:

    NaOH (a very corrosive base used to burn clogged sink and drain pipes open). NaOH is used to remove the natural, alkali-soluble 'minor ingredients' from the oil. These minor ingredients are good for health, but diminish product shelf life and that is why manufacturers choose to remove them from the oil and discard them.
    H3PO4 (a very corrosive acid used commercially for degreasing windows). H3PO4 removes the acid-soluble 'minor ingredients'. Again, for the sake of longer shelf life, which makes larger market gains, fewer returns due to spoilage, and greater profits, these natural molecules with health benefits are removed.
    Bleaching clays are used which damage the molecules that give oil its color. Because the color molecules absorb light, and subsequently, the light then damages oil molecules, this process is carried out to obtain greater shelf stability at the expense of health benefits. Unfortunately, bleaching produces rancidity, which imparts bad odor to oils. The rancid oil must then be cleaned up to remove the bad flavor and odor. The oil must be De-odor-ized.
    Deodorization takes place at frying temperatures (between 220° and 245°C). The bad odors and flavors are removed, and the oil becomes colorless, odorless, and tasteless, but these cooking oils are now palatable and have a long shelf life.


    Unfortunately, many changes happen to oil during these processes used to improve shelf life and profit. The 'minor ingredients' with major health benefits are removed, including:
    Phytosterols, which protect both cardiovascular and immune systems;

    Lecithin, which emulsifies oils and makes them easier to digest;

    Chlorophyll-a source of the essential mineral magnesium, which is required for muscle, heart, and nerve functions, and is required for insulin function, is used in natural treatments to reverse and prevent cancer, is involved in most of the chemical reactions in the body by which energy is made, and is inadequately present in 80% of the population; and

    Antioxidants including the essential vitamin E, carotene and others, which keep oils fresh longer, protect the body from aging by neutralizing molecular terrorists called 'free radicals', and thereby inhibiting aging and prolonging life.

    These 'minor ingredients' with major health benefits are removed, and the oil becomes unbalanced. You can find more detailed information on the nutrient losses that oils suffer during processing in my book, Fats That Heal Fats That Kill.




    In addition to the removal of beneficial nutrients, 0.5 to 1% of the oil molecules are changed into substances that have never been present in nature, do not fit into the very precise molecular architecture of the human (or animal) body, and therefore have highly toxic effects on life's biochemical processes.

    You might think that the percentage of these changed molecules is not high, but given their high toxicity, our daily consumption of such damaged oils, and the actual number of molecules that comprise this damage ( 0.5 to 1% ), you are looking at a much more serious concern. Let me do the numbers:

    The oil in a 32-ounce bottle of cooking oil (1 quart) weighs about 900 grams. A molecule of oil (called a triglyceride molecule) has a molecular weight of between 800 and 1,000 (let's average that to 900 to make the math easy). The rules of physical chemistry tell us that the molecular weight (900) in grams of a molecule (in this case, 900 grams of oil = triglyceride) (i.e. the 900 grams of oil found in a 32-ounce bottle) contains about 6.02x1023 molecules.


    That's a very large number: 602,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules (12 zeros make a trillion, and 9 zero's makes a billion, so a bottle of oil contains 602 billion trillion molecules). Of these molecules, if 1% is damaged, it means there are 6 billion trillion damaged molecules. If only 0.5% of them are damaged, the number is (only!) 3 billion trillion molecules. How many bottles of cooking oil used in salads, baked goods, fried foods, and hidden in other consumed items does a person eating a 'normal' diet consume in a lifetime?


    At a conservative estimate of one tablespoon of oil (containing 10 billion trillion molecules, with 1% or 100 million trillion damaged ones) per day (consumed in salad dressings, mayonnaise, fried and deep fried foods, and hidden oil in baked and other prepared foods), a 32-ounce bottle would last about 2 months. That's six bottles per year. Fifty years of this consumption is 300 bottles over a lifetime. This is a conservative estimate. Many people use substantially more than that.


    Our body contains about 100 trillion cells.



    From one bottle of oil, each of our cells would obtain about 6 billion damaged toxic oil molecules.

    Each daily tablespoon (1% toxic molecules) would provide 100 million toxic molecules per cell per day.

    How many toxic oil molecules would that person eat over an entire lifetime? At our estimate, it would be 1,800 billion (or 1.8 trillion damaged, health-destroying molecules).

    Studies with bacteria have shown that only 2 molecules per cell of certain nutrients are needed to turn on a gene and to alter cell biochemistry. If genes are this sensitive to nutrient molecules, do you suppose that 100 million toxic molecules beating up each cell could affect your genes and have effects on the health of that cell? You betcha.



    The damaged oil molecules produced by processing 'cooking oils' include fragmented molecules, double-bond shifted molecules, trans- fats, cross-linked molecules within triglycerides, cross-linked molecules across triglycerides, cyclized molecules, and many other fatty acid aberrations. Some of these have been tested in animals and found to be very toxic indeed. Further information on this topic is available in the book, Fats That Heal Fats That Kill.

    In practice, the use of these oils, especially the n-6 rich corn and safflower oils, which have been studied for many years, show a correlation with increased cancer. When 'cooking oils' are used for cooking (which today means frying), further damage occurs to the oils by light, oxygen, and high temperature. Frying is also associated with increased cancer, cardiovascular disease, and probably inflammatory diseases.



    In supermarkets, all oils except extra virgin olive oil have been processed by the same destructive methods. Extra virgin olive oil, while not damaged by processing, is a poor source of essential fats, and provides less that 1% n-3 and only 10% n-6. When extra virgin olive oil is fried, it is extensively damaged. It should not be used for frying, but should be added to foods after they come off the heat. The oils that are processed with a corrosive base, window washing acid, bleaching clays, and then heated to frying temperatures before they go in the bottles include corn, safflower, soybean, canola, and the other oils found on the shelf in supermarkets, convenience stores, and even health food stores in transparent glass or plastic bottles. If oil does not say 'unrefined' on its label, it has been processed by the methods described above.

    Oils made with health (rather than shelf life) in mind are pressed from organically grown seeds and nuts, protected from destruction by light, air (oxygen), and heat during pressing, filtering, and filling into dark glass bottles.


    Udo's Choice Oil BlendT has a box around the brown glass bottle to prevent all light from entering the container. These oils, made by Flora Inc., are refrigerated in the factory and refrigerated in stores. They are found in health food stores, gyms, and the offices of some health practitioners.

    We recommend that you keep the oil refrigerated or frozen at home, and use it on cold, warm, and hot foods (it's okay in hot soup or on steamed veggies once these foods are in your bowl or on your plate). Please never use these oils for frying. All of the care that is taken to keep them fresh and healthy is lost in a few minutes in a hot frying pan. The better the oil is for you, the more toxic it becomes should you fry with it.


    If you insist on frying, use hard fat like lard or butter.

    Hard fats are less toxic when fried than are liquid oils. From the point of view of what is best for health, frying cannot be recommended. Burned food is toxic. No animal eats it. We also should not eat burned foods if we want to live long and prosper in good health.


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    This has some basic info about fish oil.. Most of the leading research on this topic is coming from Dr Stoll ( Harvard MD ) .. I will also be posting some of Dr Stoll's studies shortly .. Fish oil is very important for so many things. I am a huge advocate of it...



    The site blocks out the word O M E G A ( so when you see this ***** it should say o m e g a )



    O M E G A 3's : How Much, For How Long?


    How much O m e g a 3's do I need? Do I really need to take a supplement?

    With research coming out all of the time on the importance of ***** 3 fatty acids for brain function (and particularly for depression), quite a number of people have emailed me about how much ***** 3s they need. And the answer is: it depends.

    What we do know is that we need an appropriate intake of ***** 3s to balance our ***** 6 intake. Many people in the U.S. consume fifteen or twenty times the amount of ***** 6s as ***** 3s (or more) - an ***** 6 to ***** 3 ratio of over 15 to 1. It should be 4 to 1 or, ideally, even 1 to 1. A 1 to 1 ratio simply means you are consuming a gram of ***** 3s for every gram of ***** 6s.

    How did we get so far from our ideal intake? The answer is at least another article if not an entire website, but the short answer is that our current diets of processed foods rely too much on high ***** 6 ingredients (most notably vegetable oils). Our meat supply has far lower levels too. Animals that eat grass have higher levels of ***** 3s in their muscles. As we have replaced a diet of wild game with meat from animals finished on feedlots, our own meat has less of the necessary ***** 3 fatty acid.

    How Much ***** 3?


    In a 2006 article by Hibbeln and colleagues Healthy Intakes of N-3 and N-6 Fatty Acids, researchers concluded that Americans should consume something on the order of 3.5 grams of EPA and DHA a day to reduce our risk of heart disease, stroke, depression, and homicide. In The ***** Connection, Andrew Stoll recommends 4 grams of EPA a day for those fighting depression.

    These are very high intakes of EPA and DHA.

    EPA and DHA, by the way, are specific long chain fatty acids found most abundantly in fish and seafood, though I have also provided articles here on a number of other foods:

    * Beef liver and ***** 3
    * Grass Fed Beef and ***** 3
    * Eggs and ***** 3
    * Wild fish and ***** 3

    Such High Intakes for Depression?

    The Stoll recommendation of 4 grams of EPA per day (and 4 grams of EPA + DHA per day for depression in pregnancy and postpartum) is very high but likely necessary to help fill what has probably been a life-long lack of long chain ***** 3 fatty acids in our diet.

    Some people's budgets are busted before they reach that 4 gram mark. Mine was. But some is better than none, particularly if you have consumed a diet high in vegetable oils and low in the ***** 3 foods listed above.

    Such High Intakes for Quality of Life?

    The 2006 study by Hibbeln and colleagues in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition recommends we continue to consume three grams a day of EPA and DHA. But they make the point: "A healthy dietary allowance of 3.5 g EPA + DHA/d, which is based on the current per capita background available intake of n-6 fatty acids and ALNA in the United States could be reduced to one-tenth of that amount if the intake of n-6 fatty acids, in particular LA, can be lowered to <2% of total energy."

    And their point is that your consumption of ***** 3 fatty acids might not have to be as high as 3.5 grams per day if you reduce your ***** 6 intake. You might be able to get away with .35 grams everyday - an intake that could possibly be met with wild game and eggs and no seafood or fish oil supplements whatsoever.

    Supplements Forever?

    Whether you need to take an ***** 3 supplement for the rest of your life to achieve optimum health really depends on your diet. If you have enough in your diet you do not need to rely on a supplement.

    I actually have a very favorable intake of ***** 3 fatty acids in my diet but I still keep a bottle of Nordic Naturals cod liver oil in my refrigerator. I take a couple of teaspoons a couple of times each week when I remember. When I am under stress and not eating as well, I take more.


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    Last edited by Merc.; 10-28-2009 at 04:16 PM.

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    what about the oils we use for home brewing/pharma grade/ugl ? cant be good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BREW-MAN View Post
    what about the oils we use for home brewing/pharma grade/ugl ? cant be good for you.
    Any sorta oil that is not unrefined ... has some harsh ass chemicals in them..



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    Ok, so for the record, I'm not supposed to use vegetable oil to dilute my prop?
    JK, thanks for some more interesting reading bro. It's spot on too (at least in my case), I recently added 2,880mg of O-mega 3s to my diet and feel noticeably better already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster87 View Post
    Ok, so for the record, I'm not supposed to use vegetable oil to dilute my prop?
    JK, thanks for some more interesting reading bro. It's spot on too (at least in my case), I recently added 2,880mg of O-mega 3s to my diet and feel noticeably better already.
    You taking fish oil or flax ??




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    Fish oil baby! 720mg per capsule

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    Coconut oil, ev olive oil, almond and fish or seal oil. Almost everthing else is unhealthy long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster87 View Post
    Fish oil baby! 720mg per capsule
    My too.. I like fish oil much better than Flax...




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    awesome article. just made it a favorite. are there any cons to taking in a lot of fish oil(e.g. 20g+) if your diet allows it?

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    i take ruffly between 40 to 50g fish oil a day, thats where most of my fats come from everyday.

    i do have one question, so unrefined is best and if you must fry use butter or lard?
    this good info for the family since they do like frying stuff lol.

    what do you reckon of peanut oil for frying

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    Very good read.Thanks for the post.BTW my grandmother always cooked with lard.Her and gramps both lived well into their 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    i take ruffly between 40 to 50g fish oil a day, thats where most of my fats come from everyday.

    i do have one question, so unrefined is best and if you must fry use butter or lard?
    this good info for the family since they do like frying stuff lol.

    what do you reckon of peanut oil for frying
    If you want to fry you can use coconut, macadamia nut or even a good ghee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    If you want to fry you can use coconut, macadamia nut or even a good ghee.
    could you define more? i know what u r talking about...but there are so many kind one is called "desi ghee" and other one is just banaspati ghee? I thought they were worse then cooking oil.
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    So Merc.,
    how about olive oil?is it as bad as all other? what about extra virgin olive oil?

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    olive oil is the only one i will use for cooking great thread

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    I use EVOO for cooking and as a fat source daily.

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    Macadmia nut oil has a higher smoke point than EVOO, definitely better. I wouldnt cook with EVOO.

    When picking out a good ghee just make sure its clarified and if there is still remnants of cream you can skim them off yourself. Its not the greatest thing to use but still better to cook with than other oils.

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    thanks bino, good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalspic View Post
    awesome article. just made it a favorite. are there any cons to taking in a lot of fish oil(e.g. 20g+) if your diet allows it?
    I have seen studies using up to 20 grams a day with really no ill effect( some stomach upset and mild nausea )...



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    What are your guy's thoughts on cooking spray - I use organic olive oil cooking spray on my pans.

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    what are the macros on clarified butter(ghee)?

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    The half-lives of dha and epa in fish oil are more than 24 hours, 72 hours for one of them, can't remember which one off the top of my head. That means they stay in your body and accumulate. Just be aware so be mindful of any toxicity issues that may arise.

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