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Thread: Murder. Is it something humans are incapable of not commiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    You speak as if killing and murder are mutually exclusive. Both have the same end result. People are muddied by the idea that "murder" implies premeditation and killing is simply "the taking of". Again, both lead to the end result. Killing can be accidental, if you accidently hit someone in your car. By to say a Sniper or a soldier is a trained killer and not a murderer is astounding. Im not casting a morale judgement on any soldiers, but that's how it is. If you use a weapon on someone, with the intent to kill or eliminate that person, how is that not murder?

    I think what im getting at is that animals have a justifiable reason to kill, we kill as an exercise in power and control.

    i agree with you the army and alike to me are paid killers . makes them no better than a maffia hit man .

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    Seems to me that Flagg and others are looking into this pretty objectivley. What makes it even more complicated when analyzing murder or killing is to also analyze how many humans have reacted based on their conviction or love. There are countless stories where many have laid their life down when it would be normal to fight back and in many cases they had the means to (people/support). You can say it is cowardice that caused them to do this, but when looking into it even further...many use to be killers/murderers and all of the sudden stop. This in itself also brings a variable into the whole survival mechanism in humans to protect something or instinctive reactions. According to popular theory these folks/genes would have been eliminated along time ago in the process.

    To me it is a very, very controversial and a complicated subject. there is a battle of wills or morals or ethics or powers or rights or wrongs or something in the universe or at least on our planet...imo.

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