The Arnold cycle... care to guess?

[Kdub]

What was Arnold on? Most of you have probably read that "Primobolan 600 mgs a week with 60 mgs of Dianabol daily" posted on the internet. Anyone think this is b.s.?

I see Arnold having three distinct cycles:

1. 1966-1968 for basic size (pre-America)
2. 1969-1975 off season
3. 1969-1975 contest

Does anyone know or are willing to take a crack at his stacks?

I heard a rumor he took 100 Dianabol a day (500 mgs). Not hard for me to believe seeing as I trained with a guy who took 10 Anadrol (500 mgs) per day.

Here is what I gather from studying his career and physique:

1. He was never bloated and had zero acne or any pimples
2. His skin was incredible
3. His bodyfat was naturally low
4. He was not pumped up all the time like the pros today (lower dosage than today's standards)

I have little knowledge of the crank used back in the 60's and 70's or the kind of knowledge they had with it.

Here are my guesses:

1. 1966-1968: 1000 mgs test a week, 100 Dbol a day, 500 mgs deca dura. He joined the army during this time and had access to unlimited meat. He essentially built his foundation up to 255 ibs.

2. 1969-1975 off season: I recall him saying that when he came to America be began sculpting this physique and building quality. This is an obvious statement meaning he altered his intake. in Pumping iron, at the beginning when he returns to the gym after a vacation or layoff, he looks to be off totally. I wonder if he even did an off season regimen or did he do a modern day "pre-contest" cycle during his prime?

Off season: 1000-2000 mgs test a week, 100 Dianabol a day, 600-1000 mgs Deca.

3. 1969-1975 Pre-contest: I also heard a rumour he was one of the first to take HGH starting in 69. His bodyfat was also quite low for a guy who never really talked about diet at all or big contest-prep (food) but then again, he was the best.

1000-2000 mgs test a week (Suspension the final week or two), 600-1000 Primobolan a week (might explain why his skin was so nice), 600 mgs Winstrol Depot a week.

He prime was 73-74 but sadly there are few pics or movies of him during these two years.

So, what do you think? Care to give your .02 cents worth?

[Big]

well this hasn't been asked yet today...
I'll move the rumors and speculations thread to the lounge, as always there is no way anyone here can answer this conclusively.

[Dont wanna be old]

[FranciscoG]

I think he actually used very low dosages.

Based on what your impressions that ¨career and physique:

1. He was never bloated and had zero acne or any pimples
2. His skin was incredible
3. His bodyfat was naturally low
4. He was not pumped up all the time like the pros today (lower dosage than today's standards)¨

I cant see him using high dosages and looking like that. If I recall there were no AI´s back then, Only nolv and clomid as SERMS and a weak estrogen, respectively.

[Friend]

What is peoples fascination with what the pros use and how much? I will never understand.

[Hazard]

I'm holding out for a definatve answer here...... everytime this question is asked..... someone knows EXACTLY what he was on.....

Once someone tells me, I'm gunna run out and buy exactly what they say he ran! I'm gunna be sooooo pissed if someone asks this question tomorrow and the answer changes!

~Haz~

[FranciscoG]

For sure he was on sick genetics. LOL

[J-Dogg]

He actually just called me asking me to move to Cali because they need more tax paying citizens over there.

So I said I would, if he tells me what cycle was his favorite.

His reply,

He loved to run the "beard cycle"

[Big]

I remember the beard cycle well lmfao, good answer

[DSM4Life]

What is peoples fascination with what the pros use and how much? I will never understand.

They use that to justify the stupid cycles they have planned.

[ranging1]

im pretty sure, and have found this cycle numerous times on websites and forums about arnolds cycle

alot fo them use to use pyramid cyclies back then since it was thought to be better

..................primo...........dbol
Week 1 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 2 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 3 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 4 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 5 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 6 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 7 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 8 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 9 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 10 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 11 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 12 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 13 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 14 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 15 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 16 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 17 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 18 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 19 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 20 600mg / week 60mg / day
BRIDGE
....................dbol............deca
Week 21 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 22 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 23 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 24 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 25 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 26 30mg / day 200mg / week
START CYCLE (1-20) AGAIN

and their u have it

[stevey_6t9]

he got big from eating all his vegetables and taking his protein shakes ok. leave him alone

[Tambit24]

i thought he ate d-bol out of a pez dispenser

[OH REALLY]

wasnt he on cell tech?

[Critical Mass]

All they did was primo,deca and var. And of course d-bol.

He did the same thing as Kevin Levrone and shrunk in the off season.

[Nooomoto]

wasnt he on cell tech?

No..Nitro Tech Hardcore stacked with Cryotest!!!!!

[Serotonin]

Cheese sandwiches and milk.

[MaNiCC]

I'm holding out for a definatve answer here...... everytime this question is asked..... someone knows EXACTLY what he was on.....

Once someone tells me, I'm gunna run out and buy exactly what they say he ran! I'm gunna be sooooo pissed if someone asks this question tomorrow and the answer changes!

~Haz~

Kfc followed by a low dose of choc milkshake, shaken not stirred

[Hazard]

im pretty sure, and have found this cycle numerous times on websites and forums about arnolds cycle

alot fo them use to use pyramid cyclies back then since it was thought to be better

..................primo...........dbol
Week 1 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 2 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 3 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 4 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 5 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 6 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 7 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 8 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 9 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 10 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 11 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 12 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 13 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 14 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 15 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 16 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 17 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 18 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 19 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 20 600mg / week 60mg / day
BRIDGE
....................dbol............deca
Week 21 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 22 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 23 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 24 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 25 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 26 30mg / day 200mg / week
START CYCLE (1-20) AGAIN

and their u have it

Kfc followed by a low dose of choc milkshake, shaken not stirred

Just freakin great..... 2 different cycles..... I can't afford both

~Haz~

[TITANIUM]

I studied Arnold back in the 70's and early 80's.

The bottom line with him was just incredible genetics.

A truly gifted individual.

Joe Weider was his so called trainer.

Arnold was his lab rat, so to speak.

His cycles were basic, nothing like we run today.

But still very long cycles & high dosages.

He was great.

Best

T

[TheBerryhillMonster]

WTF is a "beard cycle"
it sounds badass...

[ranging1]

I studied Arnold back in the 70's and early 80's.

The bottom line with him was just incredible genetics.

A truly gifted individual.

Joe Weider was his so called trainer.

Arnold was his lab rat, so to speak.

His cycles were basic, nothing like we run today.

But still very long cycles & high dosages.

He was great.

Best

T

very true, if you watch any of his documentaries and workout plans, diets etc he just did such ODD things, and still was able to grow, lean out and look amazing following the weirdest protocols

here really did have the most amazing genetics

e.g
the man could so 30 sets just his biceps twice a week and acheive great growth

he could lean out by just increasing his cardio and only slightly adjusting his diet, but he never reallyu following any low carb diet plans

he ran dbol almost up top all his competitions

the man won his 7th MR olympia title, and he only had 8 weeks to prepare for it, and he was shooting a movie at the same time

[Critical Mass]

True, but he should not have won that show in 1980.

[MaNiCC]

Just freakin great..... 2 different cycles..... I can't afford both

~Haz~

Mine gets you ready for olympia in two weeks. guaranteed results

[Kdub]

I studied Arnold back in the 70's and early 80's.

The bottom line with him was just incredible genetics.

A truly gifted individual.

Joe Weider was his so called trainer.

Arnold was his lab rat, so to speak.

His cycles were basic, nothing like we run today.

But still very long cycles & high dosages.

He was great.

Best

T

What do you think he ran for cycles?

[Kdub]

All they did was primo,deca and var. And of course d-bol.

He did the same thing as Kevin Levrone and shrunk in the off season.

They (he) didn't use test?

[NVR2BIG1]

the guys back in the day did not run test in every cycle. The ectomorphs and mesomorphs could run dbol and not get watery, the dbol back then by Ciba was much better. They didnt eat as much and stayed leaner all year. Im willing to bet the dosages back then were like beginner dosages today

[Critical Mass]

They (he) didn't use test?

So they say. I would have to guess dbol would be their test,its basically oral test.

[Misery13]

True, but he should not have won that show in 1980.

They boooo'd him off the stage after they gave him his trophy...

[Misery13]

WTF is a "beard cycle"
it sounds badass...

Bump...for beard cycle answer...

[urbanbody]

Actually I just talked to Arnold and he's gonna get on here and post his cycle! Awesome thread btw

[Hazard]

WTF is a "beard cycle"
it sounds badass...

The "beard cycle" isn't "badass" status..... there is actually a step up from the beard cycle...... it's called: The CHUCK NORRIS BEARD CYCLE.....

The Chuck Norris beard cycle is considered the supreme badass cycle..... otherwise known as the "pvssy cycle" as referenced by vinny the chin. It's been known to get you jacked in 30 days so your good to go for memorial day.....

~Haz~

[J-Dogg]

The "beard cycle" isn't "badass" status..... there is actually a step up from the beard cycle...... it's called: The CHUCK NORRIS BEARD CYCLE.....

The Chuck Norris beard cycle is considered the supreme badass cycle..... otherwise known as the "pvssy cycle" as referenced by vinny the chin. It's been known to get you jacked in 30 days so your good to go for memorial day.....

~Haz~

There is also the "voice deeper" cycle. I think I read about that one a few weeks back on the Q&A board.

[Okinawa_Power]

He ate wheaties for breakfast......that is what all the Pros back then ate......It got them huge in no time....