for now on i will never cycle without a short ester

**lovestospooge23** · 01-07-2010, 01:31 PM

ok guys i have learned something about a test e only cycle, you should always take d-bol or a-drol or a short ester steroid with it because waiting 4-6 weeks just for it to take full effect makes it ****ing pointless when it takes 4-6 to take full effect... take d-bol or a-drol with it the gains start right away.

anyways my rant is done.

im on week 3 of 12 right now and not noticing much in gains

btw i posted this in this forum because its really more of a rant and im not looking for advice

**Vitruvian-Man** · 01-07-2010, 01:34 PM

Well that's why most recommend test + d-bol for a first cycle...

did you not gain any weight on your cycle or what?

**lovestospooge23** · 01-07-2010, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Well that's why most recommend test + d-bol for a first cycle...

did you not gain any weight on your cycle or what?

im on week 3 and i didnt know most people recommended d-bol or a-drol too

ehhh my cycle of test e 500mg was fvcking pointless, i was hoping to do some miracle shit like 100 pounds extra at end of cycle on my bench looks like when it takes full effect it could be like 60-70 at end of cycle

**Vitruvian-Man** · 01-07-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by lovestospooge23;50*****

im on week 3 and i didnt know most people recommended d-bol or a-drol too

ehhh my cycle of test e 500mg was fvcking pointless, i was hoping to do some miracle shit like 100 pounds extra on my bench looks like when it takes full effect it could be like 60-70

lol.. just wait it out bro, no point getting inpatient on your first cycle

the test will kick in very quick ( a week or so IMO ) and you will start to see solid strength gains.

I remember my first cycle. It was Test-E @400mg for 12 weeks. For the first month I thought the gear was completely underdosed or fake, because I was barely gaining weight. Suddenly after that I ballooned, and gained like 20 pounds in a month and a half.

lol... BTW, don't worry, a lot of people get into AAS usage w/ huge misconceptions about what steroids will do in terms of strength / weight gain.

Alternatively you could always back-load this cycle... (IE)

Test (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg
T-bol (weeks 9 - 14) @ 60mg ED

or swap the t-bol for anavar @ 60-80mg ED

I dunno, just an idea. Have a good one.

**lovestospooge23** · 01-07-2010, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

lol.. just wait it out bro, no point getting inpatient on your first cycle

the test will kick in very quick ( a week or so IMO ) and you will start to see solid strength gains.

I remember my first cycle. It was Test-E @400mg for 12 weeks. For the first month I thought the gear was completely underdosed or fake, because I was barely gaining weight. Suddenly after that I ballooned, and gained like 20 pounds in a month and a half.

lol... BTW, don't worry, a lot of people get into AAS usage w/ huge misconceptions about what steroids will do in terms of strength / weight gain.

Alternatively you could always back-load this cycle... (IE)

Test (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg
T-bol (weeks 9 - 14) @ 60mg ED

or swap the t-bol for anavar @ 60-80mg ED

I dunno, just an idea. Have a good one.

ahhh im just gonna gonna make up for it on my next cycle, its gonna be something like 1000mg test e a week with eq 800mg a week with a-drol 1-7 100mg a week, then ill be frickin massive

**Mooseman33** · 01-07-2010, 01:46 PM

week 3 and ur getting pissed.

cmon man, it will be worth the wait just keep training ur ass off.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 01-07-2010, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by lovestospooge23

ahhh im just gonna gonna make up for it on my next cycle, its gonna be something like 1000mg test e a week with eq 800mg a week with a-drol 1-7 100mg a week, then ill be frickin massive

ahhh... well that's not a good idea.

I wouldn't recommend doubling your test dosage - you'll be asking for some wicked side-effects...

let alone running drol @ that dosage for 7 weeks. I would be worried about jaundice.

**lovestospooge23** · 01-07-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

ahhh... well that's not a good idea.

I wouldn't recommend doubling your test dosage - you'll be asking for some wicked side-effects...

let alone running drol @ that dosage for 7 weeks. I would be worried about jaundice.

well the way i would get them i would have enough for 1-7 100mg so i figured why not just use the whole pack, anyways plenty do 150mg 1-6 without any problems, i think a-drols liver effects are exaggerated

**Vitruvian-Man** · 01-07-2010, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by lovestospooge23

well the way i would get them i would have enough for 1-7 100mg so i figured why not just use the whole pack, anyways plenty do 150mg 1-6 without any problems, i think a-drols liver effects are exaggerated

.... how would you know? you've never even run an oral-steroid in your life...?

And trust me, d-drol's side effects are not over-exaggerated. 150mg for 6 weeks will send your blood pressure right through the roof.

And why aren't you down to save the extra d-drol and run it for 4 weeks, and save the rest for a next cycle....??? :S

Oh my. well anyways, I'm done arguing about this cycle; have a good one... good luck w/ ur current cycle

**lovestospooge23** · 01-07-2010, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

.... how would you know? you've never even run an oral-steroid in your life...?

And trust me, d-drol's side effects are not over-exaggerated. 150mg for 6 weeks will send your blood pressure right through the roof.

And why aren't you down to save the extra d-drol and run it for 4 weeks, and save the rest for a next cycle....??? :S

Oh my. well anyways, I'm done arguing about this cycle; have a good one... good luck w/ ur current cycle

well i guess ur right i suppose ill switch to d-bol for 1-6 weeks or maybe a-rol 1-6 weeks 100mg is that ok? it says on the a-drol profile it wouldnt be any big deal to run it for only 6 weeks btw i said i was going to be doing 100mg for 1-7 weeks now 1-6 weeks, not 150mg