the offical bash on mcgwire thread

[lovestospooge23]

so many people wouldnt read thru once again so im gonna make my point of view real 3rd grader like

i don't think he cheated the game
i think he cheated the game records
i think hes a douchebag because he cheated the game records a lil, but mostly because he won't admit that he did especially since lying just makes him lose credibility
he has no reason to keep on lying ok yes i heard hes going to be a batting coach, but wtf its pointless to keep lying there is no liar out there that could bullshit even an extra 9% of people into thinking he wasn't just using the juice for injuries




ok guys i don't hate steroids which isn't y i want to bash on mcgwire but the fact that he keeps on lying and lying, he constantly lied about not taking steroids, and finally when he does confess, its just another bullshit deception tactic so he can get into the hall of fame by saying "i only used them to fix injuries quicker" i can't stand this jerk-off, he knows he ain't gonna get into the hall of fame anytime soon and his lying is only making it worse, he should of just when he was on the stand with canseco, just fessed up, everyone woulda been pissed off for a few days but i think if he gave people the honest answers to why he took them which i think would be some decent answers considering baseball athletes had plenty of good reasons to take them considering the fact that so many players are on it that its not longer cheating the game just the records since it has turned from an "unfair advantage" to "going with the flow".


btw


u guys are missing my point entirely

it wasn't cheating the game because everyone else was on them ill give u that i said this in the first place, and perhaps saying he did take steroids under oath wouldnt be particuarly smart either ill agree to that after u guys mentioned that. but hes out of the game now, he has cheated the records although not the game, admiting to taking steroids won't get him kicked out of the mlb since hes already out. What pisses me off is that he will say anything to get into the baseball hall of fame no matter how much shit its obvious to others hes saying, its extremely insulting that not only does he continue to lie about it but continues to do it when it gains him ZERO credibility.. there are plenty of people who would like him to confess.

[chuckt12345]

sorry i like the guy

[Mooseman33]

the guy is great. what did he do that was so wrong?
he lied about taking steroids ....ok big fvking deal. the guy with sossa saved baseball.
the man should be celebrated..

he had to lie cause of the statue of limitations with congress....

this thread is a big FAIL...and the op i think is the abdominator....

[Nooomoto]

the guy with sossa saved baseball.

With Sossa AND steroids !

[Mooseman33]

exactly, if not for steroids baseball would be dead...

[firsttimer555]

he had to lie to protect his family also. And steroids doesnt get the bat on the ball that part still takes talent

[FranciscoG]

he had to lie to protect his family also. And steroids doesnt get the bat on the ball that part still takes talent

I agree fully, He lives in a country where he is persecuted for his personal and private choices due to some cock suckers that make the laws, that are out of touch.

[slimy]

exactly, if not for steroids baseball would be dead...

BAM!!!!

Baseball should be begging to get into the Mcguire Hall of Fame.

If nobody watched the game, nobody bought tickets, there would be no money for baseball. Sport? Yes. But mainly it's entertainment. If people are not having a good time, they will not support the venue.

Nobody cared about baseball for a long time. Then out of nowhere Sosa and Mcguire made people care again. Then the money started rolling back in.

WITHOUT SOSA AND MCGUIRE, THERE WOULD BE NO BASEBALL TODAY.

Baseball should be kissing Mcguire's needle marked ass.

[Mooseman33]

I agree fully, He lives in a country where he is persecuted for his personal and private choices due to some cock suckers that make the laws, that are out of touch.

but cheered for him every step of the way while he was doing it..

everyone new he was using, fvking congress, what a fvking joke.

[firsttimer555]

just like at the owners meeting they were saying Mcquire was a joke because he used steroids but they all took the money he brought in that year

[Kibble]

I support Mcgwire. You are a straight up idiot if you think that MLB, NFL and MMA athletes do not use AAS. Who cares if a running back uses tren and test? All I care about is watching that runningback PLOW through a safety and cornerback, straight into the endzone for a 95 yard touchdown run.

THAT is what wins fans. THAT is what wins games. THAT, is why I love sports

[Kibble]

Super-athletes fill the seats in a stadium. Just figured I would add that

[ArmedHammerd]

i support mcgwire. You are a straight up idiot if you think that mlb, nfl and mma athletes do not use aas. Who cares if a running back uses tren and test? All i care about is watching that runningback plow through a safety and cornerback, straight into the endzone for a 95 yard touchdown run.

That is what wins fans. That is what wins games. That, is why i love sports

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[lovestospooge23]

u guys are missing my point entirely

ok it wasn't cheating the game because everyone else was on them ill give u that, and perhaps saying he did take steroids under oath wouldnt be particuarly smart either ill agree to that. but hes out of the game now, he has cheated the records although not the game, admiting to taking steroids won't get him kicked out of the mlb since hes already out. What pisses me off is that he will say anything to get into the baseball hall of fame no matter how much shit its obvious to others hes saying, its extremely insulting that not only does he continue to lie about it but continues to do it when it gains him ZERO credibility

[ghettoboyd]

i like maguire too and could care less if he lied....we all f-ing lie sometimes....give the man a break he's a good man....

[Kibble]

ok guys i don't hate steroids which isn't y i want to bash on mcgwire but the fact that he keeps on lying and lying, he constantly lied about not taking steroids, and finally when he does confess, its just another bullshit deception tactic so he can get into the hall of fame by saying "i only used them to fix injuries quicker" i can't stand this jerk-off, he knows he ain't gonna get into the hall of fame anytime soon and his lying is only making it worse, he should of just when he was on the stand with canseco, just fessed up, everyone woulda been pissed off for a few days but i think if he gave people the honest answers to why he took them which i think would be some decent answers considering baseball athletes had plenty of good reasons to take them considering the fact that so many players are on it that its not longer cheating the game just the records since it has turned from an "unfair advantage" to "going with the flow".

So basically you are saying that AAS should only be used for recreational purposes. I disagree. Bro- athletes have to lie about steroid use . If they tell the truth, then 80% of the MVPs would be fired, and then we would have Napoleon Dynamite trying to play FullBack

[stack_it]

Mcguire is a very talented player that helped make baseball as popular as it is today. Especially here in stl. They named highway 70 here after him and threatened to tale that away and there saying he shouldn't be in the hall of fame all because he took a recreational drug that bettered not only himself but the entire game of baseball. It's bullshit.

My vote is to change the name of the thread to "bash the op"

[stack_it]

u guys are missing my point entirely

ok it wasn't cheating the game because everyone else was on them ill give u that, and perhaps saying he did take steroids under oath wouldnt be particuarly smart either ill agree to that. but hes out of the game now, he has cheated the records although not the game, admiting to taking steroids won't get him kicked out of the mlb since hes already out. What pisses me off is that he will say anything to get into the baseball hall of fame no matter how much shit its obvious to others hes saying, its extremely insulting that not only does he continue to lie about it but continues to do it when it gains him ZERO credibility

You might wanna do a little more research. Yes he's out of the MLB as a player but he is working out a contract to be the cardinals hitting coach and the MLB said he had to have this cleared up before he could sign the contract

[Kibble]

[QUOTE=stack_it;5025161]Mcguire is a very talented player that helped make baseball as popular as it is today. Especially here in stl. They named highway 70 here after him and threatened to tale that away and there saying he shouldn't be in the hall of fame all because he took a recreational drug that bettered not only himself but the entire game of baseball. It's bullshit.

My vote is to change the name of the thread to "bash the op"[/QUOTE]

Fvck yeah brother I am there! My vote goes to Bash the OP!!!
Sorry bro- your anti-steroid -anti-sport-anti-badassness isn't working in your favor

[lovestospooge23]

So basically you are saying that AAS should only be used for recreational purposes. I disagree. Bro- athletes have to lie about steroid use. If they tell the truth, then 80% of the MVPs would be fired, and then we would have Napoleon Dynamite trying to play FullBack

basicly im saying they should only be used for recreatinoal reasons and in sports and only when its become so rampant that it stops being an unfair advantage and becomes going with the flow, and mcgwire is justifed on that part i said that in the first place kuntry u didnt read my whole post i guess, but this is where it pisses me off, the fact is he is out of baseball, mlb can't do squat to him cuz of that, and he countinues to lie his ass off just so he can get into the baseball hall of fame, ok honestly i do think he belongs into the hall of fame because he played in the steroid era everyone was on them, i believe 30 years from now they will view the steroids as ty cobbs spiked cleats, but what pisses me off is that he countinues to lie even when it gains him zero credibility and makes him look worse, doesn't that piss u off?


also bigkuntry remember this... ur opinions on steroids and baseball would probably be agreed to about 1% of the baseball fan population





btw to the guy about being a hitting coach, how the **** is continuing to lie about it saying he only did it to clear up injuries is going to clear his name in the steroid scandal? its hopeless he should just fess up, he will NEVER have his name cleared

also even though he didn't cheat the game, he sure as hell cheated the records

[Kibble]

nope. He hits homeruns

[Kibble]

basicly im saying they should only be used for recreatinoal reasons and in sports and only when its become so rampant that it stops being an unfair advantage and becomes going with the flow, and mcgwire is justifed on that part i said that in the first place kuntry u didnt read my whole post i guess, but this is where it pisses me off the fact is he is out of baseball, mlb can't do squat to him cuz of that, and he countinues to lie his ass off just so he can get into the baseball hall of fame, ok honestly i do think he belongs into the hall of fame because he played in the steroid era everyone was on them, i believe 30 years from now they will view the steroids as ty cobbs spiked cleats, but what pisses me off is that he countinues to lie even when it gains him zero credibility and makes him look worse, doesn't that piss u off?

also bigkuntry remember this... ur opinions on steroids and baseball would probably be agreed to about 1% of the baseball fan population


btw to the guy about being a hitting coach, hes already worth like prolly tens of millions of dollars **** his chances of being a batting coach

Fair enough. Maybe I am the only person that wants to see a season with 1,000 homeruns

[Mooseman33]

baseball records are a joke anyway.

u want baseball to be clean, gut it from the top.
commish bud has to go. he was part of the whole fvking thing..

more pitchers juice then hitters regardless. talk about records, what a fvking joke

[Dont wanna be old]

Ok !!!!!!!!!!!

Let a old guy explain .

It's funny how a married women always wants a cheating husband to admit what he did .

You ever see there response ? Scream and cry and say I knew it . Nothing changes !

This is the same with steroid abuse in any sport . ( I doubt they do in soccer )

Of coarse several sports would be uneventful if there wasn't bigger , stronger than average people . People love seeing the ball smashed out of the park . Seeing linemen smashing a QB and etc .


The reason we need to be hypocritical is to protect the youth from believing steroids is the key to success .

Sometimes we just need to throw someone under the bus to make people think steroids are bad and believe that

I am sure there is plenty of natural talent out there .

[Friend]

I didn't like him in Spiderman

[FranciscoG]

Remember when Clinton got caught getting a blow job.

The right bashed him. Many on the right said they just could not believe a president doing what he did. A few years later we had Foly fvcking congressional pages and what´s his name in the airport trying to have gay sex with a cop.

Well all the time the regular Joe could give a fvck, dayja vue anyone?

[stpete]

OP-You're actually putting Canseco and McGuire in the same sentence? Canseco's a rat who broke the golden rule. You don't rat on your friends and teammates. Especially for monitary purposes. McGuire stood up and took it on the chin without saying a word. Good for him!!

[DSM4Life]

He can sure hit them balls...

[stack_it]

I just caught the end of a jim Edmonds interview where he said he feels that if there gonna keep outing all of these hitters that juiced they need to pay more attention to the pitchers. From the way it sounded he was saying it was hard to compete naturally when every pitcher you go up against is throwing 98mph plus fast balls. He made a good point. Take a look at the average speed of your starting pitchers fast ball before they started calling players out on steroids and then look at the averages since. The players went from throwing 98-103 mph to 90-95 mph those few mph are a big difference when you're trying to hit a ball as small as a baseball.

[FranciscoG]

^^ That doesn´t count cause we gotta built them up before we knock them down. Now you know the media wont knock down nobodies cause no one would care enought to watch.

[lovestospooge23]

OP-You're actually putting Canseco and McGuire in the same sentence? Canseco's a rat who broke the golden rule. You don't rat on your friends and teammates. Especially for monitary purposes. McGuire stood up and took it on the chin without saying a word. Good for him!!

i never compared canseco and mcgwire

[lovestospooge23]

Ok !!!!!!!!!!!

Let a old guy explain .

It's funny how a married women always wants a cheating husband to admit what he did .

You ever see there response ? Scream and cry and say I knew it . Nothing changes !

This is the same with steroid abuse in any sport . ( I doubt they do in soccer )

Of coarse several sports would be uneventful if there wasn't bigger , stronger than average people . People love seeing the ball smashed out of the park . Seeing linemen smashing a QB and etc .


The reason we need to be hypocritical is to protect the youth from believing steroids is the key to success .

Sometimes we just need to throw someone under the bus to make people think steroids are bad and believe that

I am sure there is plenty of natural talent out there .

i never said mcgwire cheated the game he just cheated the records, and btw "he needs to be hypocritical to protect the youth from believing steroids were the key to success?", yeah special olympics is real tough to get in these days hell its the only olympic program without rampant steroid problems, you know what we need him to be a hypocrite.

let me ask u this question, are u perhaps mark mcgwire?

2nd of all lets compare that wife statement

mcgwire saying he isn't using steroids is basicly like u hearing ur wife moaning as loud as she with some black guy moaning too, and basicly u opening the door 10 seconds after they had put all their clothes on, first of all if she kept lying to u about it even though u knew it was flat out true it would take a helluva a lot longer to for u to forgive cuz u could never learn to trust her, if she confessed it'd be easier to start to trust, also if it somehow were true for woman i doubt its true for guys i'd throw her the fvck outa the house if that ever happend to me also most baseball fans are woman

[ray0414]

would people please spell his name correctly..its McGwire. The baseball chase of 98 was awesome bottom line. lots of players were juiced up but only 2 have gone over 70. he's still talented either way. and u never know how many of those HR he hit of pitchers who were juicing too..even tho i gotta say ive never seen a pitcher built quite like mcgwire lol

[amcon]

ok the pitchers were taking aas, the batters were taking aas... does a aas make you hit a ball ? cuz he didnt have a lot of pop flies they were deep balls that were hit - he was a big guy with a fast bat.

did he cheat the rules ? yep -so what asteric his name

[(TLF) CHAMPION54]

Who cares what he did, he is a grown man!

The MLB should say ok the all players can use 500mgs a week of Test, and 50mgs of Dbol !
And if they get tested for anything else then suspend them or whatever.