how do NFL and college players juice and get away with it?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-22-2010, 11:06 AM

obviously tons and tons of these guys are juicing. I just wonder how so few of them ever get caught. Thoughts?

**redz** · 04-22-2010, 11:10 AM

Masking agents.....

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-22-2010, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Masking agents.....

such as?

**redz** · 04-22-2010, 11:49 AM

well most of them are not well known because if they were then they would test for them. I forget which one but there was an insident a while back where a group of 10+ guys were busted for a masking agent let me see if I can find it.....

**redz** · 04-22-2010, 11:52 AM

Looks like there is one called Bumetanide.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/200...port-10-15-nfl

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-22-2010, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by redz

well most of them are not well known because if they were then they would test for them. I forget which one but there was an insident a while back where a group of 10+ guys were busted for a masking agent let me see if I can find it.....

yea the whole StarCaps thing. I remember that. They said they used it to reduce water weight. Deuce McCalister was one of them busted. Of course only the general stupid public would believe they actually wanted to use a diuretic during the season lol

**Nooomoto** · 04-22-2010, 12:07 PM

LOL...come on man. I mean I know they make an example out of someone once in a while...but do you think the guys in suits behind the NFL really are against AAS? This is millions upon millions of dollars. I'm sure more often than not it's a case of just looking away.

**cobra305** · 04-22-2010, 12:08 PM

They have to have inside sources when it comes to drug testing. There is to much money involved for the NFL to lose. These guys know months in advance when they are getting tested.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-22-2010, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by cobra305

They have to have inside sources when it comes to drug testing. There is to much money involved for the NFL to lose. These guys know months in advance when they are getting tested.

I'm pretty sure they are given random tests. Sports have tried to become a little stricter with this issue

**cobra305** · 04-22-2010, 12:18 PM

Yes "random" baseball has become stricter. The last big name NFL player to ghet busted was Sean Merriman, before that can you name the player? I can't, in my opinion the know in advance. I may be wrong.

**Hard.On** · 04-22-2010, 12:33 PM

if these NFL guys didnt juice,

there is no way imo their bodies would survive as long as they do

**cobra305** · 04-22-2010, 12:40 PM

^ x's 2

**tballz** · 04-22-2010, 12:51 PM

I would have to say that they know in advance when they are getting tested.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-22-2010, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by cobra305

Yes "random" baseball has become stricter. The last big name NFL player to ghet busted was Sean Merriman, before that can you name the player? I can't, in my opinion the know in advance. I may be wrong.

it doesn't happen much. Merriman and the 10 players who got caught with the masking agent bumetide was the last big news about it. I know dominick rhodes got suspended and I cant remember who else. Everyone else gets away with it. Imagine a mitchell report in football?

hell we have D1 football players on this board asking for AAS advice

**SwollenMooseKnuckle8** · 04-22-2010, 08:20 PM

I'm with a few of the guys here. It's a business, not a sport. Football is a sport up until college it seems (or HS' in the south/mid west etc), then once it comes to college, and the NFL only 1 thing comes to mind. Money.

So in my opinion I think it has a combo of everything from looking the other way to using masking agents. I'm sure when the NFL chooses to make an example of someone, they do.

**6ft5** · 04-22-2010, 08:45 PM

I watched a show a couple of weeks ago about football players.. They used a catheder. out with the old- in with the new. Lol! it was funny as shiot.

**warchild** · 04-22-2010, 09:08 PM

finasteride

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-22-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by 6ft5

I watched a show a couple of weeks ago about football players.. They used a catheder. out with the old- in with the new. Lol! it was funny as shiot.

whats that?

**warchild** · 04-22-2010, 09:22 PM

catheter

**BgMc31** · 04-22-2010, 09:51 PM

"Random" drug testing is not always "random". I played for 4 years.

**Charlie6** · 04-22-2010, 10:19 PM

Good points indeed....I wondered if some of 'em just used really short estered hormones too perhaps

**6ft5** · 04-22-2010, 10:34 PM

The show is a hit can't remember the name but funny as heck. A cathater, a tube inserted into the pee hole to drain the bladder of waist, then pump in clean synthetic pee. Remove tube tada clean pee.

**C-MaN** · 04-22-2010, 10:53 PM

they dont have to worry about testing during the season. You can get a good cycle in during the off season.

**quarry206** · 04-23-2010, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

"Random" drug testing is not always "random". I played for 4 years.

haha i was actually wondering if you were going to speak up or not haha

but i knew some big name college players, and they said the same thing.

**breakbones** · 04-23-2010, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by quarry206

haha i was actually wondering if you were going to speak up or not haha

but i knew some big name college players, and they said the same thing.

agreed

**Friend** · 04-23-2010, 01:34 AM

**DSM4Life** · 04-23-2010, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by twotimer

if these NFL guys didnt juice,

there is no way imo their bodies would survive as long as they do

The sad part is they don't. Now (with drugs) they are pushing their bodies every harder than before and paying the ultimate price. Recently i have read so many stories of football players losing their memory to losing the ability to walk. No one cares because they are no longer on the football field when these side effects of football hit.

**DSM4Life** · 04-23-2010, 04:37 AM

**Hazard** · 04-23-2010, 07:18 AM

~Haz~

**Hazard** · 04-23-2010, 07:18 AM

~Haz~

**Hazard** · 04-23-2010, 07:26 AM

Lets not forget about the lingerie bowl to spice up the thread.....

~Haz~

**Hazard** · 04-23-2010, 07:48 AM

edit

**AlphaGenetics** · 04-23-2010, 08:06 AM

Quite a few year back a football player posted a thread asking how to pass a steroid test. He said that he and a friend hooked a catheter up and the clean friend pissed into the clean ones blatter before a test and he still came up dirty. He said some players had success with that though. lol

**Hazard** · 04-23-2010, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by AlphaGenetics

Quite a few year back a football player posted a thread asking how to pass a steroid test. He said that he and a friend hooked a catheter up and the clean friend pissed into the clean ones blatter before a test and he still came up dirty. He said some players had success with that though. lol

fvck that.....

He could have some kind of bladder infection or something..... no way...... never would I let someone elses piss go into my bladder..... lol

~Haz~

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-23-2010, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

"Random" drug testing is not always "random". I played for 4 years.

do you mind being a little more specific? I am guessing college ball you are referring to?

Originally Posted by Hazard

Lets not forget about the lingerie bowl to spice up the thread.....

~Haz~

big vernon is a freak. and thanks for the thread save with the lingerie chick

Originally Posted by AlphaGenetics

Quite a few year back a football player posted a thread asking how to pass a steroid test. He said that he and a friend hooked a catheter up and the clean friend pissed into the clean ones blatter before a test and he still came up dirty. He said some players had success with that though. lol

lol!!! That sounds fukcing gross haha