So whats wrong with Anthony Conners (Roberts) theory's......

[Swifto]

I'm not sure where to start.....

I'm bored so I'll guess I'll start with the idiotic theory of progesterone and Tamoxifen with 19-Nors and breast caner patients? Some how (no idea how) YOU (Anthony) came to some stupid conclusion that using Tamoxifen AND 19-Nors up-regulates the PgR in breast tissue when the PgR is synthesised in response the the estrogen receptor in breast tissue too?

Another example of your bullshit logic... Did I say anything about the flaw with milk thistle and prostate cell lines... Unless your one giant prostate? Well, I think a fair few people think your that bit between your arsehole and your ball sack... Anyway....

Lets address Vitamin E and rodents aswell? In your PCT thread have you ever met a HUMAN thats vitamin E deficient?! Maybe you are, but generally humans are not deficient in VitE.

[stack_it]

People really hate this guy don't they lol. All over the net he gets bashed. He may well be the most hated man on the Internet.

[jimmyinkedup]

Im partial to the "nizoral will clear up acne" or the "benadryl clear reptors when using clen" BS theories. Why is it the only thing i ever read from him that was true and not based on assenine anecdotal infomation ..or should i say suppostions , or even guesses , is the info he plagerized from those that knew they're stuff...like Nandi.....

[Swifto]

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Yes, that is my theory. Deca has been used in several trials to treat the inflammatory symptoms of different autoimmune diseases like Sjogren's Syndrome and rheumatoid arthritis, with varying degrees of success. It is hardly a magic bullet but eases the symtoms and improves well being somewhat.

If that "lubing the joints" stuff were true, then other steroids that cause more bloating than deca would work better, and they don't seem to. There is just no evidence to support it, as you point out. The TH1 suppression caused by androgens/progestins makes perfect sense, agrees with the research, and is consistent with the clinical trials of deca in inflammatory disorders.

Thef man (Karl Hoffman) was a ****ing genius. RIP


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Hormonal influences. T helper 1 (TH1) cells secrete proinflammatory cytokines and promote cell-mediated immune responses, whereas TH2 cells trigger antibody production. In multiple sclerosis (MS) and rheumatoid arthritis (RA), there are features characteristic of a TH1 immune response directed against autoantigens in the central nervous system and joints, respectively. Pregnancy and systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) favor a TH2 environment. Sex hormones (such as progesterone) that promote the development of a TH2 response antagonize the emergence of TH1 cells. This may explain why in multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis disease symptoms improve during pregnancy, whereas in lupus, they do not.

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http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conte...83/5406/1277/F1

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And... Here comes that rip off c*nt, stealing bastard..

[Swifto]

And....

That shitc*nt copied another paragraph too....

T helper 1 (TH1) cells secrete pro-inflammatory cytokines as well as promoting cell-mediated immune responses, whereas TH2 cells trigger antibody production (2). Sex hormones (such as progesterone) that promote the development of a TH2 response also happen to antagonize the emergence of TH1 cells. Hence, when progesterone levels are (or the PgR, progesterone receptor) stimulated, you'll have more anti-inflammatory cytokines floating around and less pro-inflammatory cytokines. Aspirin, Tylenol, and all of the over the counter anti-inflammatories are also useful as painkillers. Anti-inflammatory effects are often highly correlated with pain killing activity. What happens when women with arthritis get pregnant? They typically see a reduction in joint pain. This, I contend, is due to the progesterone and estrogen increases seen during pregnancy, and the anti-inflammatory effects they generate.

Read more from this MESO-Rx article at: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...#ixzz1BAxEJDTD

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...our-joints.htm

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[Matt]

I love this topic, not Roberts but the whole "running nolva with nor19's". Ive been having this argument over on PM and really dont know where this myth started....

I only ever suffer from gyno when running a heavy tren/deca cycle and i can leave it until i get real hard marble size lumps behind the nipples, add 20mgs of nolva ed and within a week those lumps have completely gone...

Imo to many people have been looking at research done on cancer patients....

[yungone501]

Okay swifto, we'll let u do all the homework and studying, and then just give us all the answers, okay? Lol, all i see is x=mc2 and so on...

Whatever...

[Tigershark]

He truly is hated. I agree with stackit that he may be the most hated man on the internet.

[terraj]

He truly is hated. I agree with stackit that he may be the most hated man on the internet.

Only in our little warped corner of the web

[Bojangles69]

I've heard so much shit on this forum about this guy and I still have no idea what he did lol.
I mean didn't he work for this forum at one point? Did you guys have no idea he was shady with a record and all?
(I only remember that because I have a record lol)

I've seen admin post a book full of court documents before but it looked like latin to me. What is the main reason
this forum actually hates him? Was there something besides stealing intellectual property? I've just never seen
someone explain clearly in laymans terms before, thanks.

[marcus300]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...f-Coward-LOSER

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[thegodfather]

I'm not sure where to start.....

I'm bored so I'll guess I'll start with the idiotic theory of progesterone and Tamoxifen with 19-Nors and breast caner patients? Some how (no idea how) YOU (Anthony) came to some stupid conclusion that using Tamoxifen AND 19-Nors up-regulates the PgR in breast tissue when the PgR is synthesised in response the the estrogen receptor in breast tissue too?

Another example of your bullshit logic... Did I say anything about the flaw with milk thistle and prostate cell lines... Unless your one giant prostate? Well, I think a fair few people think your that bit between your arsehole and your ball sack... Anyway....

Lets address Vitamin E and rodents aswell? In your PCT thread have you ever met a HUMAN thats vitamin E deficient?! Maybe you are, but generally humans are not deficient in VitE.

Save ya the time dude. Someone with a degree in English shouldn't be postulating highly complex medical theories and physiology...Just Saying