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03-04-2011, 07:51 AM #161
I'm here mate. Pretty disappointed in some of my fellow brethren that this was such a difficult concept to grasp.
Here is my observation on bad behaivor. If you ask someone why they do bad things, the surprising thing is that they can always justify it. They did it because they were pissed off and felt justified. They did it because Walmart is an evil empire and have it coming. They did it because every one else did it. They did it because they were drunk. And all the bad sh1t they did was justified and therefore it was OK. Very few people will accept responsibility when they do bad things. It is this lack of responsibility for one's own actions I was trying to illustrate, yet again and again the justifications came out... in a few hours they would throw it in the trash, so therefore me stealing is OK. Or... I took it because Walmart is so big they would never notice.
The issue with eating in a store before you pay is that you are taking ownership of the item before the owner of the item is aware of it. Your future intentions are irrelevent. The true test of ownership is the right to exclude others from this item. By ingesting the food, you are denying the store owner this basic property right. Your future defense is that you were "intending" on paying for it. But an "intention" is not an exceptible form of tender. At that point in time, you have taken property, yet given nothing in return.
Some of you really miss the point. And here's the funny thing. Jail houses are full of people that don't quite comprehend that what landed them there is wrong. They go through the motions of being sorry at the parole board, and as soon as they are released, they continue to act poorly, and sincerely can justify their bad behaivor.
Im surprised this thread went on so long.
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03-04-2011, 07:53 AM #162
Times......let this piece of shit thread die....Gawd...
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03-04-2011, 07:56 AM #163
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03-04-2011, 09:41 AM #165
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03-04-2011, 09:45 AM #166
Weren't you an ex-inmate? How the fvck can you call anybody here a dirt bag when YOU have been locked up? I don't know what exactly you did, but I'm assuming it's worse than having a 'free' meal at a grocery store....so, how exactly are you fit to judge people? Did Jesus save your soul? How are you fit to even judge somebody?
How do you walk into a bank, get money without somehow identifying yourself, and then walk out?
Usually your posts are quality, this one's garbage to be honest.
Shitting in the aisle? What kind of example is this, dude? Never heard of shit like that happen, ever!
And god forbid Wal-Mart loses money, right?
peaZH
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03-04-2011, 10:50 AM #168
LOL @ this traffic wreck of a thread!!
Key points in review:
Roman believes the theft justification is a matter of accountability and can be seen in the penal systems (I completely agree).
DSM seems to let the ignorance and hate from one raving member bead and roll off his back like water off of a duck.
One very disgruntled and maladjusted member starts a controversial thread for the purpose of entertainment and ends up getting himself banned due to hate speech toward the female gender, gays and anyone who disagreed with him.
Did I miss anything?
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03-04-2011, 10:53 AM #169
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03-04-2011, 10:55 AM #170
LOL- could be perceived that way, Cal. I actually experienced entertainment... almost Jerry Springer style.
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03-04-2011, 10:55 AM #171
Men who love penis = Love for me
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I was just called a duck. Should i be insulted ?
I let a lot bead down and drip off my back but never water.
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03-04-2011, 10:59 AM #173
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03-04-2011, 11:12 AM #174
CHAOS!! ANARCHY!!
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03-04-2011, 11:36 AM #176
This thread has provided me with a lot of entertainment. Can't talk about lifting, eating and injecting all the time. It is the lounge after all.
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03-04-2011, 11:38 AM #177
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03-04-2011, 11:47 AM #178
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03-04-2011, 11:54 AM #179"Rock" of Love ;)
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You're obviously really mad. How would it look to you if someone else took the time to change ip addresses and make new user names just to come on a website and post really gay shit like "come at me bro?" Seriously, guy, give it up. You look like a big-time tool.
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03-04-2011, 01:35 PM #180
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03-04-2011, 02:05 PM #181
Call me stupid...but if you want to "F*ck a fag" , doesn't that make you homosexual? Just saying.
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03-04-2011, 05:47 PM #182
Why are you asking me if I was an excon if that was the second sentence I wrote in my post?
See this is what I mean about dirtbags. You clearly just read that sentence, but still chose to act like you didn't, just out of a desperate ploy
to make a point that means nothing. I never said "that persons a dirtbag for breaking the law", I simply said "they're a dirtbag". Nor was I even
speaking to you but as fast as you decided to respond now I have to assume you consider yourself a dirtbag too.
Look, rather than sit here and try to tell people they can't speak because one time they got a speeding ticket (thats breaking the law right?) I'm
going to make a point based on grounds and substance.
There are people who break laws for MANY different reasons, what I'm concerned about her is not the law they broke, but the reasons why.
Take a pedo, they break the law because they're sick twisted fvcks who get off on raping little kids.
Take a drug dealer, a decent amount of the time its survival related. And although society likes to believe they are harming someone, the idiots who buy
their fvckn drugs are the real issue. Learn how to respect your body & brain, and we don't even need to worry about drug dealers in the first place. Not to mention these types tend to not sell to children, or addicts who are in great risk of illness/death in general.
Then there are drug dealers who sell drugs because they are greedy. They don't give a fvck about anyone. Will put rat poison in their product if they think it'll help them sell more, will sell to children, pregnant women, anyone. The point being, I'm a person with depth who understands life, and can look beyond a simple breaking of the law. And what I will see behind that, is either a person who has tried to be good most of their life and made a few mistakes, or a person who has been a d-bag most of their life and fsomehow managed to stay out of trouble.
Like I said, I was locked up. But I have more fvckn humility and dimension than you will ever have.
I can't think of one RATIONAL circumstance, where someone would be walking around walmart with their fat faces stuffed with food, chewing while they walk, not having the patience or impulse control to wait to check out, where that person would not be a dirt bag. Someone made the point "what if they were starving?" Then I would ask "why didn't they sell they car they drove to walmart first and buy food?" It just doesn't seem as likely as people think especially in modern day america. But if they WERE starving, then obviously not a dirtbag. Like I said this is about motivation for behavoir not behavoir itself. Just that certain behavoirs have innate motivations attached to them like child molestation.
Its all relative. But like Roman said, all it really takes is a bit of worldy insight to understand.
There are 15 year olds that egg houses on mischieft night. I don't consider that "being a dirtbag" its kids just being kids imo.
Then there are grown men that do the same type of shit when they're older just because they're ignorant fvcks looking for trouble.
Then there are the walmart "food testers" who have very little if any legimate reason to be doing what they're doing. Most of these
people are just dirtbags. Not not all, but most infact are.
Then there are drug dealers, some are dirt bags, again not all.
Then there are murderes, about 98% imo are dirt bags. The ones who aren't are the ones who kill in self defense.
Then there are pedophiles, 100% dirtbags.
Its like einsteins theory of relativity. I don't really give a fvck if walmart loses money. What urks me more than anything in this world
is people who break the law really just for the rush of doing so. Even when they plan on paying I still very much believe they are
doing that crap JUST BECAUSE it makes them feel larger than life. And you will find a lot of these people wind up lying about what
they ate when it comes time to cash out. I know this because I worked at a supermarket for shits sake and saw this crap going on
all the time. These people walk, talk, and act like scumbags. I stick to my point. And I'm fit to judge someone because I have a brain
capable of analytical thinking.
Don't get mad at me because YOU YOURSELF have engaged in this dirtbag behavoir. Get mad at yourself like a nondirtbag would
if they ever did it. Its not the biggest deal in the world. And on the totum pole of scum it would definitely be somewhere towards
the bottom. So at least I'm not being overly judgemental, I'm being quite fair actually. And if you can't understand that, its not really
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