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    recession hit careers

    just wondering how many of you have been affected?

    ive been out of the professional fitness scene for 3yrs now and out of accountancy for almost 2yrs and i just cant seem to be able to get back into either. granted i moved 200 miles, but i am in a major city.

    ive now been working security jobs for 2yrs and am starting to feel im never going to get back on the professional ladder again and its starting to get to me.

    early this year i did a course which qualified me to run training courses, ie in my case teach PT/fitness instructor courses but still no break through! had thought of starting out on my own, running courses but the banks (here in ireland anyhow) are not supporting start up businesses.

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    I work for one of the major phone companies as a technician and although they're still making a boat load of money the company knows most will not just leave. As a result they're starting to put a lot of pressure on everyone.
    Right now I'm waiting to see if I'll still have a job by the end of the year. If I do then I might be in the clear for a while longer. It sucks cause some of the other jobs I've looked into say they offer good pay but actually pay less than my current job.

    The economy sucks right now.

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    We both were. NH has no state tax add to that bad state money management and you get ~ huge cuts in social services and in turn hospitals/child protection/disabled services etc.

    We noticed it first when my entire dept. was closed out without notice (worked for hire as a Parent Aide, Child protection agencies would contract me for jobs supervising family visits, child removal and all steps up threw family reunification). The state couldn’t afford the service any longer and so there are no longer Parent Aides in NH...*poof* overnight all the DCYF branches had thousands of cases back in their office but had also just merged 3 county Social service offices into 1 (they cut hundreds of case workers)...so messed up.

    Then I took a position at his employer (a huge special facility that was part hospital/rehab/disabled person’s apartments and medical homes) and we noticed concerning money cuts and fellow employees being fired left and right that had been working there for years n years...I jumped boat, seeing the trend....he soon followed. Turns out that now 1/2 the facility is closed out and people are leaving before they get fired...bankruptcy was mentioned.

    Even my special needs foster kids are feeling it...they no longer get state money for anything (therapeutic summer camps, clothes, sports money and now x-mass) my salary for caring /boarding disabled foster kids was cut in HALF...in half.

    He is in college for a diff career and Im awaiting my acceptance letter at another college for degrees in mine so I can branch out more. We both plan to move to Illinois as soon as he graduates ~ for a more stable economy and high demand for our skills. Scary times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    I work for one of the major phone companies as a technician and although they're still making a boat load of money the company knows most will not just leave. As a result they're starting to put a lot of pressure on everyone.
    Right now I'm waiting to see if I'll still have a job by the end of the year. If I do then I might be in the clear for a while longer. It sucks cause some of the other jobs I've looked into say they offer good pay but actually pay less than my current job.

    The economy sucks right now.
    yeah, my partner works for a major phone company as a project manager, over the past 3yrs she has just been getting told that they're safe enough for periods of time on a contract by contract basis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy4mySweetheart View Post
    We both were. NH has no state tax add to that bad state money management and you get ~ huge cuts in social services and in turn hospitals/child protection/disabled services etc.

    We noticed it first when my entire dept. was closed out without notice (worked for hire as a Parent Aide, Child protection agencies would contract me for jobs supervising family visits, child removal and all steps up threw family reunification). The state couldn’t afford the service any longer and so there are no longer Parent Aides in NH...*poof* overnight all the DCYF branches had thousands of cases back in their office but had also just merged 3 county Social service offices into 1 (they cut hundreds of case workers)...so messed up.

    Then I took a position at his employer (a huge special facility that was part hospital/rehab/disabled person’s apartments and medical homes) and we noticed concerning money cuts and fellow employees being fired left and right that had been working there for years n years...I jumped boat, seeing the trend....he soon followed. Turns out that now 1/2 the facility is closed out and people are leaving before they get fired...bankruptcy was mentioned.

    Even my special needs foster kids are feeling it...they no longer get state money for anything (therapeutic summer camps, clothes, sports money and now x-mass) my salary for caring /boarding disabled foster kids was cut in HALF...in half.

    He is in college for a diff career and Im awaiting my acceptance letter at another college for degrees in mine so I can branch out more. We both plan to move to Illinois as soon as he graduates ~ for a more stable economy and high demand for our skills. Scary times
    yeah, i had intended starting a diploma in criminal law, i applied for a grant which the council education board screwed up with mis-info on their own bloody criteria forms, they eventually rectified their cock up and then told me that they should have passed it to another department in the first place and i missed the start date for the course. i was incensed

    governmental departments in ireland are an administrative joke, id of been better addressing my application to Dublin zoo FAO the monkeys

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    Things are still good here in Canada... Our banks did not get hit like many world banks because of regulations put on them by the previous LIBERAL government. The right-wingers at the time were screaming bloody murder when those regulations were put in place, now they are saying how great those regulations are and are pretending like they put them in place. Unfortunately 1/3 of our economy is tied to the USA so there are still tough times ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    yeah, i had intended starting a diploma in criminal law, i applied for a grant which the council education board screwed up with mis-info on their own bloody criteria forms, they eventually rectified their cock up and then told me that they should have passed it to another department in the first place and i missed the start date for the course. i was incensed

    governmental departments in ireland are an administrative joke, id of been better addressing my application to Dublin zoo FAO the monkeys
    Ouch Damn, that's rough

    Sometimes school doesn't even help. There may be certain types of jobs available right now, people go to school to get said job, they finish school and now the market has changed and they can't find a job anymore.

    I used to work for a surveying company doing computer drafting which is what I went to school for. When I saw the company slipping I got a job in the phone company (a job I never went to school for).

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    ^ Rite?! it used to be a grantee employment if you were in the medical field or was a social worker ( people always get sick and families will always have crises esp. in hard financial times) now I cant think of one position that is guaranteed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy4mySweetheart
    ^ Rite?! it used to be a grantee employment if you were in the medical field or was a social worker ( people always get sick and families will always have crises esp. in hard financial times) now I cant think of one position that is guaranteed
    Too true

    I don't believe in job security anymore. Just find a job, stay with it as long as possible, learn as much as you can (maybe some classes here and there), and when that job or company goes into the crapper you move on.

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    i was in debt settlement and new regulations last year put us out of business.
    I'm back in sales. Selling the same stuff i did years ago but now i make about 1/2 what i used too cause everything is slower. I'm lucky if with commission and bonuses i make what my base salary was 4-5 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54 View Post
    Things are still good here in Canada... Our banks did not get hit like many world banks because of regulations put on them by the previous LIBERAL government. The right-wingers at the time were screaming bloody murder when those regulations were put in place, now they are saying how great those regulations are and are pretending like they put them in place. Unfortunately 1/3 of our economy is tied to the USA so there are still tough times ahead.
    yeah, every Canadian ive ever met was well to do. i enquired about immigrating there about 6yrs ago, some online legal advisor told me that drink driving charge i picked up when i was young and stupid, would leave me with no chance.

    one canadian guy i chatted with, whilst doing a club door, told me that the education and work ethic is very strong over there

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i was in debt settlement and new regulations last year put us out of business.
    I'm back in sales. Selling the same stuff i did years ago but now i make about 1/2 what i used too cause everything is slower. I'm lucky if with commission and bonuses i make what my base salary was 4-5 years ago.
    id love to set up a business of my own like a small intensive personal training pod rather than go back to renting gym space. i hate working for ppl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    Ouch Damn, that's rough

    Sometimes school doesn't even help. There may be certain types of jobs available right now, people go to school to get said job, they finish school and now the market has changed and they can't find a job anymore.

    I used to work for a surveying company doing computer drafting which is what I went to school for. When I saw the company slipping I got a job in the phone company (a job I never went to school for).
    tell me about it mate, my sports degree has done absolutely nothing for me.

    i wanted to do law because its never going to be affected by recession plus the fact ive a real interest in the criminal side.

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    Oz in looking for and handing visas out to CPAs Dec.

    Go where the work is and enjoy the change I say. My employment is project based and I'm good for a job for the next year, but I've got resumes out all over the place mate...keeping my finger on the pulse.

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    Try to go to work for an Oil & Gas company, (recession proof)

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    from accounting to security? now that's a pretty big gaap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Try to go to work for an Oil & Gas company, (recession proof)
    Not without a contact....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    id love to set up a business of my own like a small intensive personal training pod rather than go back to renting gym space. i hate working for ppl.
    I have several friends that does personal training.
    My ex see private clients in her house, or she travel to theirs.
    One friend takes clients to the park, one-on-one and groups.
    One friend see his clients at his local gym, with no affiliation to the gym itself.
    And others...
    $0 overhead!
    Word of mouth or ad in your local paper, craigs list etc.
    With your degree you can justify charging a higher fee.
    I´m sure you are knowledgable in nutrition as well, so you can tailor both training and diet.
    I am setting up my 16 yo with a personal trainer next week. $100/hr.

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    In the UK its been reported that this year is the worst time in 17 years for post graduate students to get careers.

    The only way I'm going to get a graduate job is by doing a work placement first and even that is proving hard to get.

    As much as I hate it I'm grateful for my shit delivery job for the time being. Plus I got more hours on my contract today..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54 View Post
    Things are still good here in Canada... Our banks did not get hit like many world banks because of regulations put on them by the previous LIBERAL government. The right-wingers at the time were screaming bloody murder when those regulations were put in place, now they are saying how great those regulations are and are pretending like they put them in place. Unfortunately 1/3 of our economy is tied to the USA so there are still tough times ahead.
    Yup....I'm not saying my position is invinsible....but It's highly unlikely I'll be without a job in my industry....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Try to go to work for an Oil & Gas company, (recession proof)
    Still easy to get a position in this industry here in Alberta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    In the UK its been reported that this year is the worst time in 17 years for post graduate students to get careers.

    The only way I'm going to get a graduate job is by doing a work placement first and even that is proving hard to get.

    As much as I hate it I'm grateful for my shit delivery job for the time being. Plus I got more hours on my contract today..
    some private pt studios are actually advertising for interns, here in Dublin!! ie, work for free, what a joke!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    from accounting to security? now that's a pretty big gaap?
    well its either that, or sit on my ass and not work, and ive never conformed to the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Try to go to work for an Oil & Gas company, (recession proof)
    BINGO!!!! i got out of the medical profession (breast cancer research) and into oil and gas, very happy over here! but, i do miss saving the tatas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    well its either that, or sit on my ass and not work, and ive never conformed to the latter.
    i was testing ya mate!

    GAAP = Generally Accepted Accounting Principals

    It was a play on words, I thought ya mighta caught that?

    No worries =)

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    private equity oil and gas E&P is still solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    i was testing ya mate!

    GAAP = Generally Accepted Accounting Principals

    It was a play on words, I thought ya mighta caught that?

    No worries =)
    never heard of it in 13yrs, must be an american coined phrase lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    never heard of it in 13yrs, must be an american coined phrase lol
    oh! i've used it so much and it is so common, i never considered it might be just that, an american term.


    Generally Accepted Accounting Principles are the backbone to the American Accounting Standards.

    Typical American arrogance thinking the world revolves us, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    oh! i've used it so much and it is so common, i never considered it might be just that, an american term.


    Generally Accepted Accounting Principles are the backbone to the American Accounting Standards.

    Typical American arrogance thinking the world revolves us, huh?
    well i didnt like to say lol

    any job adverts here would just say something like must have familiarity in all accounting procedures' etc
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    My work has laid off 30 guys and they are saying more could go no where is safe now everyone is just waiting for the axe to fall its BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion62;5***036
    My work has laid off 30 guys and they are saying more could go no where is safe now everyone is just waiting for the axe to fall its BS
    even the last security crowd i worked for are laying off man hours due to clubs doing away with opening hours during the week nights! im having to go into commercial security now

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    I started drinking because of depression related to my job (partly) and now this post makes me feel like a superstar. Thank you. Im just happy to have a freakin job and sometimes I lose sight of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper;5***254
    I started drinking because of depression related to my job (partly) and now this post makes me feel like a superstar. Thank you. Im just happy to have a freakin job and sometimes I lose sight of that.
    agree. this project is slated to end in january, so now i've gotta find something else.... what a drag!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper;5***254
    I started drinking because of depression related to my job (partly) and now this post makes me feel like a superstar. Thank you. Im just happy to have a freakin job and sometimes I lose sight of that.
    yeah, we have to be thankful to at least have something even if its not fulfilling us i suppose

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    brb dips in nurtition and health and exercise

    brb can't even get a job working for free

    brb working in argos

    such is life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraj View Post
    Not without a contact....
    I am going to assume you meant contract. Notice I said Oil & Gas company not Oil & Gas service company, Companies like Shell, PDO, Chevron, BP, KOC, KNPC, Total, Marathon Ashland, ENI, SINOPEC< Gazprom, Saipem etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    I am going to assume you meant contract. Notice I said Oil & Gas company not Oil & Gas service company, Companies like Shell, PDO, Chevron, BP, KOC, KNPC, Total, Marathon Ashland, ENI, SINOPEC< Gazprom, Saipem etc.
    You assume wrong...again

    What I'm saying is getting job in those companies in the field of Oil and Gas without experience requires having contacts within that particular organization.
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    I'm an analyst, so I haven't been affected or seen any decrease in hiring (not like we're always hiring anyway). I do have a friend who has advanced degrees in exercise science and can't find a job. He's working doors at local clubs. Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nooomoto View Post
    I'm an analyst, so I haven't been affected or seen any decrease in hiring (not like we're always hiring anyway). I do have a friend who has advanced degrees in exercise science and can't find a job. He's working doors at local clubs. Ridiculous.
    i know how he feels, ive fast come to the conclusion that sports degrees are useless degrees. all the industry is interested in is saes BS, if they invested a bit more in paying ppl to help members of gyms out they might find their retention rates would be much higher, but no, its the usual sales conveyor belt and when they've reach saturation in an area they sell up and move on.
    great for them, shit for ppl like me that actually care about the fitness side of it.

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    I do think that all of us have had to reassess their careers, homes, finances and retirement plans.

    Wanna hear a joke?

    .....it wasn't too long ago I thought I was going to retire at 55!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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