DatBTrue bunch

[Cravenmorehead]

Anybody go over and visit that forum?? ......interesting bunch. They're doing all this IV stuff with carnitine and insulin. Self administered prolotherapy. Damn. I don't mind a nice cycle, but this stuff they do is wild

[DanB]

if you dont like it then dont go there but it was dat that devised the ghrh/ghrp protocol that is now considered the norm and he is also referenced on pratically every board that will allow it,and generally VERY well respected by most including many ''knowledgeable members'' mods and vets here ***************

[The Bear 79]

if you dont like it then dont go there but it was dat that devised the ghrh/ghrp protocol that is now considered the norm and he is also referenced on pratically every board that will allow it,and generally VERY well respected by most including many ''knowledgeable members'' mods and vets here so mabey its just a bit over your head

Ouch..............!....

[BBrian]

I attempted to register as a user, and was automatically banned "forever". Odd.

[alexISthrowed]

I love dat's articles!

[Sgt. Hartman]

I attempted to register as a user, and was automatically banned "forever". Odd.

It's a joke that happens to everyone.

[jimmyinkedup]

if you dont like it then dont go there but it was dat that devised the ghrh/ghrp protocol that is now considered the norm and he is also referenced on pratically every board that will allow it,and generally VERY well respected by most including many ''knowledgeable members'' mods and vets here so mabey its just a bit over your head

Just becaust dat is extremely well versed and respected- even the expert in the area referred too -doesnt mean there arent a bunch of douche bags there.
just saying....

[Cravenmorehead]

I attempted to register as a user, and was automatically banned "forever". Odd.

The group is odd......like I say. They have guys trying to get long needles for self prolotherapy and I doubt they have ultrasound to guide the injections. I know he knows his stuff........I've read the guides and they are concise citations of scientific work. No question about that. The other things is what I find interesting.

[Cravenmorehead]

I'm currently comparing Lilly HGH to the peptides mod and -2 and imaporelin.

[DanB]

Just becaust dat is extremely well versed and respected- even the expert in the area referred too -doesnt mean there arent a bunch of douche bags there.
just saying....

agreed but is there any boards that dont suffer this problem? i.m.o. its one of the better one's, and op granted some of the protocols may seem a bit extreme but who is to say that some (not all) may also become the norm in years to come for advanced/pro bb ers

[Cravenmorehead]

if you dont like it then dont go there but it was dat that devised the ghrh/ghrp protocol that is now considered the norm and he is also referenced on pratically every board that will allow it,and generally VERY well respected by most including many ''knowledgeable members'' mods and vets here so mabey its just a bit over your head

Well maybe it is.....but I doubt it.......I have my advanced degree in molecular biology........you shouldn't make assumptions.

[DanB]

fair enough i withdraw that comment but you of all people with that degree should not be so quick to dismiss their research as ''insanity'' im willing to bet that many now standard protocols where once also thought of as insanity

[Cravenmorehead]

agreed but is there any boards that dont suffer this problem? i.m.o. its one of the better one's, and op granted some of the protocols may seem a bit extreme but who is to say that some (not all) may also become the norm in years to come for advanced/pro bb ers

People have to eventually come to the realization that the human body will outsmart all protocols EVENTUALLY to return to homeostasis. These "radical" protocols may have a rash of unintended consequences. Much like the "experts" that prescribed thalidomide......seemed like the thing to do at the time.

[Cravenmorehead]

fair enough i withdraw that comment but you of all people with that degree should not be so quick to dismiss their research as ''insanity'' im willing to bet that many now standard protocols where once also thought of as insanity

Thank you.......but to encourage people to be lab rats borders on irresponsibility. From dat's own posts he can't keep his cortisol under control and suspects a tumor.......maybe an unintended consequence.
All I can say is beware of those with short term research data that looks too good to be true......it probably is.

[DanB]

so on this basis, and this is a legitimate question so dont take it as anything else,in your opinion do you think that the body will eventually get used to extended gh or peptide use? and when you say eventually what time span are we talking? and yes unintended consequences may arise i agree but how is one to know if not for research like this?

[DanB]

Thank you.......but to encourage people to be lab rats borders on irresponsibility. From dat's own posts he can't keep his cortisol under control and suspects a tumor.......maybe an unintended consequence.
All I can say is beware of those with short term research data that looks too good to be true......it probably is.

understood and noted

[jimmyinkedup]

agreed but is there any boards that dont suffer this problem?

Pretty much my point. I think we essentially agree.

[MR10X]

People have to eventually come to the realization that the human body will outsmart all protocols EVENTUALLY to return to homeostasis. These "radical" protocols may have a rash of unintended consequences. Much like the "experts" that prescribed thalidomide......seemed like the thing to do at the time.

so your saying if you go on TRT for low or no testosterone your body will outsmart the TRT theropy and back to homeostasis ie low test?

[Cravenmorehead]

so your saying if you go on TRT for low or no testosterone your body will outsmart the TRT theropy and back to homeostasis ie low test?

Not necessarily "low test" per se.......but the response will not be the same as say when you first started your HRT dose. This is evident with supraphysiological doses.....to think 100mg will be any different is making a big assumption. You fight the body's natural "defense" mechanisms for too long and you induce a diseased state.