Here is why the Chinese will clean our clocks (sigh)

**tcw** · 01-23-2012, 06:09 AM

Here is why the Chinese will clean our clocks...

Greedy manufacturers want to make bigger profits, so they make their products in places with labor practices that would be illegal in America.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/you-s...#ixzz1kHZuWWUH

**lovbyts** · 01-23-2012, 06:54 AM

Doesn't look like anything new. This has been going on for a LONG time. Ever hear of Nike? And if you dont buy apple or other brands that are based in the us but manufactured elsewhere do you think they Chinese pay there people any better for most of the trash they send over here and we buy?

It sucks all the way around. Maybe we should stop buying imports? Wont happen, our government makes to much money from it.
What's funny is a lot of other Asian countries boycot things make in China.

**Times Roman** · 01-23-2012, 07:58 AM

in this region, things manufactured in China usually means very low QC, and half the time the shit don't work. when i first got here, i bought a dozen 6way socket extension chords. the first two didn't even work.

**DSM4Life** · 01-23-2012, 08:01 AM

As long as the U.S accepts their goods and imports them nothing will ever change.

**Eddie_m63** · 01-23-2012, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

As long as the U.S accepts their goods and imports them nothing will ever change.

Right on the money.

**tcw** · 01-27-2012, 10:51 PM

The deal is the Chinese buy our Bonds....(floating the debt of the Fed Reserve).

Our government in turn....looks the other way when the Chinese exploit cheap labor, offer no human rights, no min wage, no child labor laws, and government subsidized biz financing. (when was the last time the government here offered no tax incentives to businesses for setting a man.plant in the USA?).

The Multinationals love this setup....helps drive the price of their stock up and profits higher. They don't care about Human rights in China...and they sure as hell don't give a rats arse about the declining value of the dollar....nor the lower standard of living for Americans.

They buy our bonds...we bend over and let them fck us in the arse (that's the american public in the arse....the politicians and big money players are set for the rest of their lives...all at the expense of the working class and future americans).

Jesus...when will the American people ever say enough-is-enough?

**Black** · 01-27-2012, 11:35 PM

Same old story. World sucks. I still have my fingers crossed for a post-apocolyptic world like in Mad Max: Beyond the ThunderDome. Go to Barter Town and trade for items you need to survive. Someone has a problem with you? ThunderDome time. "TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!"

**Shol'va** · 01-28-2012, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

Same old story. World sucks. I still have my fingers crossed for a post-apocolyptic world like in Mad Max: Beyond the ThunderDome. Go to Barter Town and trade for items you need to survive. Someone has a problem with you? ThunderDome time. "TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!"

Sounds like a typical friday night at my place.....

**slfmade** · 01-28-2012, 01:51 AM

I blame us (consumers) for this.

I own a retail business and we sell higher end products. If I have a U.S. Product for say 1000.00 and a chinese knockoff for 1/2 the price...9/10 people will buy the cheaper product. I can explain until I'm blue in the face the value of the U.S. product as better quality, supporting jobs in the US, whatever...but at the end of the day MOST people value the dollar over the quality.

This forces many retailers to buy/sell chinese products because consumers DEMAND cheap stuff!!!

The problem with not doing business with China is if this happened the American made products would most likely go up in price as they would no longer have to compete with china knockoffs. So it really can be a catch22.

**Times Roman** · 01-28-2012, 02:17 AM

I'm very careful about buying chinese.

...having said that, they make so much that alot of the stuff you buy, without knowing it, comes from China.

Remember they were poisoning the milk and killing babies because they were able to turn a buck?

**gixxerboy1** · 01-28-2012, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by slfmade

I blame us (consumers) for this.

I own a retail business and we sell higher end products. If I have a U.S. Product for say 1000.00 and a chinese knockoff for 1/2 the price...9/10 people will buy the cheaper product. I can explain until I'm blue in the face the value of the U.S. product as better quality, supporting jobs in the US, whatever...but at the end of the day MOST people value the dollar over the quality.

This forces many retailers to buy/sell chinese products because consumers DEMAND cheap stuff!!!

The problem with not doing business with China is if this happened the American made products would most likely go up in price as they would no longer have to compete with china knockoffs. So it really can be a catch22.

i agree with you about shoppers. I'm in retail also. But some of my chinese products are made very well. "high end chinese" Also they carry a long warranty. So nobody wants their shit to break but if it does its covered. So most people can see spending and extra $1000 for virtually the same product because it say made in the USA

**DSM4Life** · 01-28-2012, 10:06 AM

**cherrydrpepper** · 01-28-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

Same old story. World sucks. I still have my fingers crossed for a post-apocolyptic world like in Mad Max: Beyond the ThunderDome. Go to Barter Town and trade for items you need to survive. Someone has a problem with you? ThunderDome time. "TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!"

lmfao

Ive always thought a standard response to the teenagers coming into the aas forum asking questions should be "JUST WALK AWAY"

**Far from massive** · 01-28-2012, 10:49 AM

This is just another problem of our way of government. As long as people have a religious, moral, ethical..call it what you like mindset then our form of government will work fine. Without morals with greed as our only incentive, the slow takeover of government by business is inevitable.

Every year the separation between the rich and the poor is getting bigger, more and more goods are being made overseas. More and more laws are being bent, changed or broken by corrupt multinational firms with huge government influence. And society will continue to crumble, any student of history can point to the downfall of many civilations due to greed and immorality.

Its way to easy to point a finger at China, Immigrants etc for the bad guy, however you really need to look a lot closer to home and you will see the real villians.

The latest standout to me is that Fear Factor donkey semen show (where the contestants will drink a glass of donkey semen) that just got OK'd by censors for broadcast tv. Sorry call me an azzhole or un American or whatever you like but while I certainly do not condone it, I really do understand why some would feel justified in flying airplanes through our buildings.

Its a sad freaking time we live in. I am sure anyone who helped write the constitution would be appalled at the state of affairs and the interpretation of the meaning of the document.

**Far from massive** · 01-28-2012, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by tcw

The deal is the Chinese buy our Bonds....(floating the debt of the Fed Reserve).

Our government in turn....looks the other way when the Chinese exploit cheap labor, offer no human rights, no min wage, no child labor laws, and government subsidized biz financing. (when was the last time the government here offered no tax incentives to businesses for setting a man.plant in the USA?).

The Multinationals love this setup....helps drive the price of their stock up and profits higher. They don't care about Human rights in China...and they sure as hell don't give a rats arse about the declining value of the dollar....nor the lower standard of living for Americans.

They buy our bonds...we bend over and let them fck us in the arse (that's the american public in the arse....the politicians and big money players are set for the rest of their lives...all at the expense of the working class and future americans).

Jesus...when will the American people ever say enough-is-enough?

Well Said

FFM

**Hoggage_54** · 01-28-2012, 02:01 PM

Workers, worker's rights, regulations, and fair trade are the enemy of Capitalism... it's no longer about competition and innovation, it's about making the most money possible in the least amount of time, no matter who it affects.