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    Since youre all experts on girls answer this.

    How can you tell when a girl has commitment issues? This girl that I being seen for two months has me by the balls, I can't figure it out. One day she's she nicest the next is like I dont even exist, it's done now I am not calling her again but still would like to know. About two weeks ago she told me that it was up to me if I wanted it to work, because according to her I didn't call her enough. We had a long conversation and I told her she was doing the same thing, I told her I hated to be ignored and everything should be 50/50 whether it was a friendship or a relationship...at the end she told me if we could start over, so according to her we started all over and this only lasted a week lol.

    I think but not sure if she is afraid of commitment because of her family problems or something that happened to her in he past. Both her sister have babies and the fathers are not around, she used to have a good relationship with her dad but left them and hasn't talked to him in a long time.

    There u have it.

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    We can't help you without her stats or pics of her.

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    I just went through this, dump her before you have feeling for her..is she blonde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54
    We can't help you without her stats or pics of her.
    Thats not part of the problem, she looks good that's all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr.
    I just went through this, dump her before you have feeling for her..is she blonde?
    Lol, not blondes she's black, but I don't think is her hair lol.

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    Shes not afraid of commitment shes testing you. Trust me on this I know women I literally was a "pick up artist" before I met my gf and dated many many many women! Women test men to see if you are a man or a ***** who they can control and if your a puussy then she will get bored of you and move on. what makes sens to you does not make sens to a women so dont try to be logical and think to much...women act on emotions and if you can control a womens emotions you now have the key to being with just about any women you want.

    You need to start being more assertive, if there is something she is doing that you dont like or agree with then let her know...dont be a diick about it just be calm, cool, and tell her no. She might freak out and try to get a rise out of you (this is a test) but if you walk away and stay calm, stand your ground she will almost always come back after she cools off and agree with you...in fact she will think highly of you and you will look more "alpha"....on the other hand if you freak out you look weak, if you do what she says all the time you also look weak.

    Its hard to teach you everything in a post but if there are two things you can take from what I said they are "women always test us" no matter what stage of the relationship, and "control a womens emotions is the key to her heart".

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    p.s she has 100% control right now and she knows it...she is playing you like a fiddle! You want control in the relationship? next time you see her tell her "we need to talk" and tell her you not sure if you can do this anymore. she will prob say "do what?" and you can say to her "I feel like your playing with me and its not ok" she will then do one of two things 1. freak out and make try to make you bow down to her and say your sorry or get really scared and dig for more details. If she freaks out you say to her in a calm voice "Listen I really like you and want to be with you but not if you are treating me like ______" fill in the blank with what it is that you want her to change or stop doing. At this point she will prob freak out more to test you even more and say something like "fine mabey we should end this" and then you should say something like "You know I agree, Im glad we had this talk, I really like you but I think its best if we have some time apart" then leave.

    Sounds crazy doesnt it? she will then leave expecting you to call her back and say how much you miss her but dont! dont talk to her for a couple weeks unless she calls you....if she does call you then you now are in the driver seat! you now how the power back and its on you terms....if she does not call you back and after a couple weeks you miss her still then call her up to see how she is but dont act like an idot saying how much you miss her lol just be calm and tell her you just wanted to call and see how she has been. Most likely she will call you after a week or so when she starts missing you and her emotional state changes....that when you have the power and you now can start telling her that you want a relationship that 50/50 not 20/80 and if thats not going to happen you will walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awms View Post
    Shes not afraid of commitment shes testing you. Trust me on this I know women I literally was a "pick up artist" before I met my gf and dated many many many women! Women test men to see if you are a man or a ***** who they can control and if your a puussy then she will get bored of you and move on. what makes sens to you does not make sens to a women so dont try to be logical and think to much...women act on emotions and if you can control a womens emotions you now have the key to being with just about any women you want.

    You need to start being more assertive, if there is something she is doing that you dont like or agree with then let her know...dont be a diick about it just be calm, cool, and tell her no. She might freak out and try to get a rise out of you (this is a test) but if you walk away and stay calm, stand your ground she will almost always come back after she cools off and agree with you...in fact she will think highly of you and you will look more "alpha"....on the other hand if you freak out you look weak, if you do what she says all the time you also look weak.

    Its hard to teach you everything in a post but if there are two things you can take from what I said they are "women always test us" no matter what stage of the relationship, and "control a womens emotions is the key to her heart".
    half that pick up artist stuff is bs. Maybe good for picking up a girl not for a relationship. If i followed your post my wife would be married to someone else
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    i had a beautiful black gf who did the same thing to me , i dont know exaclty what it is but she would expect me to call and wait on her hand and foot, once i really got into her she would ignore me and answer the phone at her leisure. she was hypocritical and thought her shit didnt stink. but she was a bombshell and i was addicted.

    the best thing for you to do is be yourself. tell her like it is and dont give in. if she likes you enough she will call. it shouldnt be a game of who calls first and tests all the time. you should be able to tell if things will last just by her attitude. if things just keep getting to be more and more of a pain then cut her off and look for someone new. she might even come crawling back

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    Look bro the thing is girls want to be taken. Learn how to f a girls brains out. It should resemble one of the nastiest porns youve ever seen. When you reach pro level like me you can make love to them and switch to f ing their brains out in the same session. Every girl even the nice ones want this its how you let them know you are sensitive but not a little bitch. Sadly most men don't know what t f they are doing. A girl should tell you she can't cum anymore before you bust your load. Her response should be I can't cum anymore / my ***** can't take anymore, then its ok to make the volcano erupt.

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    Sounds like she is attention hungry, but doesn't wanna completely commit to you because it means that she won't be getting any attention from other men, being she has an exclusive boyfriend now. I'm sorry but these ones are always trouble. I agree with what most of awms said, you need to show her that you really don't care if you guys go separate ways (of course you do), and see her reaction from then on. One constant is that women love attention, when you stop giving it to them- they freak out and either want you 100% or unfortunately they'll seek attention else where.

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    Man it seems like everyone on the board as of late is having relationship issues. Your a man she's a woman you think with your coCk she thinks with her heart. Things are going to clash from time to time and that is why there are neighborhood florists....

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    Quote Originally Posted by awms View Post
    Shes not afraid of commitment shes testing you. Trust me on this I know women I literally was a "pick up artist" before I met my gf and dated many many many women! Women test men to see if you are a man or a ***** who they can control and if your a puussy then she will get bored of you and move on. what makes sens to you does not make sens to a women so dont try to be logical and think to much...women act on emotions and if you can control a womens emotions you now have the key to being with just about any women you want.

    You need to start being more assertive, if there is something she is doing that you dont like or agree with then let her know...dont be a diick about it just be calm, cool, and tell her no. She might freak out and try to get a rise out of you (this is a test) but if you walk away and stay calm, stand your ground she will almost always come back after she cools off and agree with you...in fact she will think highly of you and you will look more "alpha"....on the other hand if you freak out you look weak, if you do what she says all the time you also look weak.

    Its hard to teach you everything in a post but if there are two things you can take from what I said they are "women always test us" no matter what stage of the relationship, and "control a womens emotions is the key to her heart".
    Awms, I agree with this whole heartedly. The problem however is, that most guys, in the instances where those things don't work, and the girl does bounce on them, cant hold it together and go chasing them. One of the most important things with PUA, is that you do not fixate on ONE WOMAN, and getting one particular woman, because while there is alot of skill and 'art' in it, its also a numbers game as I understand it. This is a big problem for someone like the OP, who may really be into THIS particular girl and not want to let her go. The problem is most men cant stay strong, and let the female bounce once theyve exhausted their resources and attempts and regaining control of the relationship. In order to be successful, one has to be able to let go of the ones who the attempts do not work on, and not just purely from a tactical stand point, but from a practical stand point as well. So the attempts at regaining control and getting the upper hand back in the relationship didn't work, and she is now ready to bounce on you because you will not take an inferior position in the relationship, what is your alternative? So you want to chase this woman down, and relegate yourself to being a subservient little bitch to this woman just because you are so wrapped up in her? That makes zero sense, but guys do this time and time again, and I'm f**king guilty of doing it in my younger years myself admittedly, until I woke the fu*k up. We men need to realize, that however 'special' and (let me cover my mouth to stop from puking) "different" you think she is, she's not. She is just another piece of ass. It's a numbers game, never get wrapped up in one woman too long, never let yourself be the bitch. Women want a MAN, not a DADDY, do not do things for them that their daddy would do, be a fu**ing man.

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    Just be yourself, if she don't like that.....too bad so sad get over it and find someone who you are compatible with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer
    Sounds like she is attention hungry, but doesn't wanna completely commit to you because it means that she won't be getting any attention from other men, being she has an exclusive boyfriend now. I'm sorry but these ones are always trouble. I agree with what most of awms said, you need to show her that you really don't care if you guys go separate ways (of course you do), and see her reaction from then on. One constant is that women love attention, when you stop giving it to them- they freak out and either want you 100% or unfortunately they'll seek attention else where.
    No shit, I am running for the hills on this one. I haven't had this much stress in so long that is driving me nuts. Too bad that I will still see her at the gym, next time I should follow the rule of not shitting where you eat lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250
    Just be yourself, if she don't like that.....too bad so sad get over it and find someone who you are compatible with.
    Couldn't agreed more, she found the lottery when she met me too bad she's not claiming the prize, really she did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_m63 View Post
    Couldn't agreed more, she found the lottery when she met me too bad she's not claiming the prize, really she did.
    Why do you say this bro? I'm just curious...I mean, I know a lot of times we like to think we are the best, total package, with the most to offer. However, even girls who really don't have a lot going for them, who we may view as really...........pathetic.... Does not necessarily mean that they will see things for what they are. My point is, that while you may see yourself as the best package out there, there is nothing which says that she will see that. And I'm not saying it isnt the truth, just that I've had girls who were way lower on the todem pole than myself, and it boggled my mind in the past why they wouldn't jump at the opportunity to date me. But, people are fickle, and have different tastes, viewpoints, and opinions. Some girls literally only like to date scumbags, or date men who have nothing going for them in their lives, it helps give the woman a greater sense of self worth if she dates a male who is inferior, or who is beholden to the woman for support. There are alot of factors at play in these situations, they are not ever black and white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    half that pick up artist stuff is bs. Maybe good for picking up a girl not for a relationship. If i followed your post my wife would be married to someone else
    I was not just into pick up but also into studying the women'd mind...picking up women is the easy part its keeping them around for longer then a couple weeks that is hard and since I have been in many relationships and am with my current gf for 3 years now I consider my self an expert in the field....most pick up artists really dont understand how women think....they understand one how talk to a women and get her number, mabey even have a one night stand but until you really know how they think you have nothing but numbers and one night stands.

    Women think with mostly the emotional part of the brain and men the "logical" part. Women make most decisions based on how they feel at the time and men will almost alway (but not always) make decisions based on pro's and cons' example "If I cheat I could loose my gf, but this girl is better looking and more fun so its worth it" its really based on what each male preserves to be more important in their lifes and it will change from person to person.

    When a women makes a decision it is very emotional! If you can arouse and interest a women while at the same time giving her a reason to think "its not my fault it just happend" then 9/10 she will cheat....not all women will do this but most will no matter how faithful they are! I have seen in a million times! It takes a very good pick up artist to do it but almost all women will cheat or make a decision they might not normally if you know how to spark their emotions at the right times. She might regret it after but in the moment she wont...that why you always hear "it just happend" or "I dont know why I did it....it wasnt my fault".

    The mind is a powerful thing!

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    I agree 100% most guys cave and have to low self esteem to follow through with it....they start second guessing their actions and cave, they start using "guy logic" to justify everything and start giving into the womens every need and want because they think that is what she want...when really its the opposite of what she wants and it pushes her away. Life is not a movie or romance novel and the reality of the situation is that no matter how great a women is, no matter how amazing and perfect you think she is, she can be replaced....there is no one perfect women for you there are many! you can always find another women who has just as much in common, is just as good lookings ect ect....its sometimes hard to think like that when you heart is broken but its reality.

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    The on thing I will say is the when you do find a women who you have a bond with and is a "good girl" that is something special!!!! yes there is always more of them but these days they are few and fare between! If you find one dont mess it up! most women today are selfish, greedy, and really only stick around when things are good so if you find a girl who really genuinely likes you for you then try to make it work! this doesnt mean be a push over and a weak but it means work on the relationship or you might regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awms View Post
    I was not just into pick up but also into studying the women'd mind...picking up women is the easy part its keeping them around for longer then a couple weeks that is hard and since I have been in many relationships and am with my current gf for 3 years now I consider my self an expert in the field....most pick up artists really dont understand how women think....they understand one how talk to a women and get her number, mabey even have a one night stand but until you really know how they think you have nothing but numbers and one night stands.

    Women think with mostly the emotional part of the brain and men the "logical" part. Women make most decisions based on how they feel at the time and men will almost alway (but not always) make decisions based on pro's and cons' example "If I cheat I could loose my gf, but this girl is better looking and more fun so its worth it" its really based on what each male preserves to be more important in their lifes and it will change from person to person.

    When a women makes a decision it is very emotional! If you can arouse and interest a women while at the same time giving her a reason to think "its not my fault it just happend" then 9/10 she will cheat....not all women will do this but most will no matter how faithful they are! I have seen in a million times! It takes a very good pick up artist to do it but almost all women will cheat or make a decision they might not normally if you know how to spark their emotions at the right times. She might regret it after but in the moment she wont...that why you always hear "it just happend" or "I dont know why I did it....it wasnt my fault".

    The mind is a powerful thing!
    I second this. After working in bars/clubs/lounges for four years now, I meet all types of women. Most will come up to me and comment that I am attractive or start hitting on me to begin with. I cannot tell you guys how many of these women who give me their numbers actually have boyfriends..and they don't feel the least bit guilty either. Some of them end up admitting it when I call/text them later that week and some will never admit it, but after asking around or viewing their facebook's, it becomes quite obvious that they are taken. Last Sunday I had some woman flirt with my all night, hang by the door (where I check IDs and cannot move) for 90% of the night. We exchanged numbers. A few days later we were talking and I said "How is it that you don't have a boyfriend? You seem just about perfect." She responds with "To be honest, I do have a boyfriend, but I just feel a really strong awesome connection with you." I stopped texting her right after that comment. It proves awms point even further, a woman will act out of how she's feeling at that particular moment, and never think about the repercussions down the road, which is why several men get cheated on, and the woman never feels sorry

    .....Pretty much what my ex did to me the whole time we dated.

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    Whew....i'm gettin winded just listening to this conversation.


    1. How old is she?...and how old are you?

    2. What are you looking for...a bang or a GF?

    3. Always be in control the relationship. In my experience...if the man is not in control...the male suffers immeasurably...and the relationship is doomed (unless you like wearing a Nut-belt with a rope attached to her palm?)

    4. IF you are looking for a just a bang....play her little game...but you deal the cards....not the other way around.

    5. Never fall in love with a Chick until 6 mths into the relationship. Until then...they are on probation.

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    I already have friends with benefits so I am not looking for just a bang. The reason I kept talking to them was because I never came to an agreement/commitment with this chick...she's 21 I'll be 32 in April perhaps that's the problem lol, I dont know why I always get involved with younger females, things just happened. You know what's funny about two years ago i went to a psychic and I can't remember correctly if she said to remember the D or what out for the D, needles to say this girls name starts with a freaking D, coincidence????

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    Quote Originally Posted by awms View Post
    Shes not afraid of commitment shes testing you. Trust me on this I know women I literally was a "pick up artist" before I met my gf and dated many many many women! Women test men to see if you are a man or a ***** who they can control and if your a puussy then she will get bored of you and move on. what makes sens to you does not make sens to a women so dont try to be logical and think to much...women act on emotions and if you can control a womens emotions you now have the key to being with just about any women you want.

    You need to start being more assertive, if there is something she is doing that you dont like or agree with then let her know...dont be a diick about it just be calm, cool, and tell her no. She might freak out and try to get a rise out of you (this is a test) but if you walk away and stay calm, stand your ground she will almost always come back after she cools off and agree with you...in fact she will think highly of you and you will look more "alpha"....on the other hand if you freak out you look weak, if you do what she says all the time you also look weak.

    Its hard to teach you everything in a post but if there are two things you can take from what I said they are "women always test us" no matter what stage of the relationship, and "control a womens emotions is the key to her heart".
    ^^^ This guy's playing the Mystery Method...

    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    half that pick up artist stuff is bs. Maybe good for picking up a girl not for a relationship. If i followed your post my wife would be married to someone else
    Yeah, she'd be married to somebody like me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_m63 View Post
    I already have friends with benefits so I am not looking for just a bang. The reason I kept talking to them was because I never came to an agreement/commitment with this chick...she's 21 I'll be 32 in April perhaps that's the problem lol, I dont know why I always get involved with younger females, things just happened. You know what's funny about two years ago i went to a psychic and I can't remember correctly if she said to remember the D or what out for the D, needles to say this girls name starts with a freaking D, coincidence????
    Broads your age (and mine too) are old. I mean you can see the crow's feet around their eyes. The extra baggage in their gut and their sagging tits. They're shells of what they used to be (with of course a few exceptions). So I understand why you want to date younger broads. I don't believe in psychics at all though. Sure you remember the prophesies that come true, but the ones that don't are forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54 View Post
    We can't help you without her stats or pics of her.
    This post needs a "Like" button!

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    You need to do a booty call late at night, butt sex her, then when she goes to the bathroom to clean up clean yourself up using the curtains, take her credit card from her purse and fill up your car with it, and leave before she gets back..

    only way..

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    Just be yourself, if she don't like that.....too bad so sad get over it and find someone who you are compatible with.
    Amen. Compatibility, compatibility and compatibility are the only three things that matter in a long term relationship.

    Giving advice about women suggests they are all the same. So wrong. Any sentence that starts with "women like" or "women want" is automatically wrong for a huge amount of women. If they all liked and wanted the same thing, we would have them figured out by now...and we don't. Obviously.

    Be yourself, look for someone else who is being genuine and shoot for compatibility. Break up with anyone the you have constant disagreements with, no matter how hot they are. Do you know that couple that breaks up a lot? They break up and then get back together and then get married. Yeah, they are getting divorced soon.

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    one man cannot have too many friends with benefits..... if you rotate them enough you may not even get bored of any of em

    Idunno how the fvck Bronzer gets numbers at work..... dudes ugly as sin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_m63 View Post
    I already have friends with benefits so I am not looking for just a bang. The reason I kept talking to them was because I never came to an agreement/commitment with this chick...she's 21 I'll be 32 in April perhaps that's the problem lol, I dont know why I always get involved with younger females, things just happened. You know what's funny about two years ago i went to a psychic and I can't remember correctly if she said to remember the D or what out for the D, needles to say this girls name starts with a freaking D, coincidence????
    Dude seriously you are 32 yrs old? The way your posts are regarding girls from the sounds of it I thought you were 19 or something........They play games, if u surrender you are fvcked or as you delicately put it "have you by your balls". I dont even wanna say what I am thinking......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    one man cannot have too many friends with benefits..... if you rotate them enough you may not even get bored of any of em

    Idunno how the fvck Bronzer gets numbers at work..... dudes ugly as sin

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian


    Dude seriously you are 32 yrs old? The way your posts are regarding girls from the sounds of it I thought you were 19 or something........They play games, if u surrender you are fvcked or as you delicately put it "have you by your balls". I dont even wanna say what I am thinking......
    I have a young mind/personality lol, also your not the first one that tells me that, i actually take it as a compliment. That was just an expression the last time I was with a girl like this was way back in high school and believe it or not I did everything for her, I was so dumb and stupid but at least I learned my lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_m63 View Post
    I have a young mind/personality lol, also your not the first one that tells me that, i actually take it as a compliment. That was just an expression the last time I was with a girl like this was way back in high school and believe it or not I did everything for her, I was so dumb and stupid but at least I learned my lesson.
    I am not sure this statement is true....

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian View Post


    Dude seriously you are 32 yrs old? The way your posts are regarding girls from the sounds of it I thought you were 19 or something........They play games, if u surrender you are fvcked or as you delicately put it "have you by your balls". I dont even wanna say what I am thinking......
    ditto

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    21 is way too young to take serious. Keep as an Acquaintance if possible. If not...drop it...before you get SUCKED into her web....seriously.

    Most chicks don't come down to earth until they reach the big 30 (not all...but 99 percent of them don't).

    If you want to torture and run yourself ragged, get into physical fights, spend all your money, spend your free time (and work time) focusing on head games, getting dragged into court over legal disputes, possibly get arrested, fight domestic violence charges, etc...then get involved with a young girl with bi-polar disorder. Chicks under 30 yrs of age....just have way too many growing pains to go through...and they will drag you through them.

    You need to be in MAJOR CONTROL to handle them...and a Big Fat Wallet helps too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_m63 View Post
    I already have friends with benefits so I am not looking for just a bang. The reason I kept talking to them was because I never came to an agreement/commitment with this chick...she's 21 I'll be 32 in April perhaps that's the problem lol, I dont know why I always get involved with younger females, things just happened. You know what's funny about two years ago i went to a psychic and I can't remember correctly if she said to remember the D or what out for the D, needles to say this girls name starts with a freaking D, coincidence????
    Last edited by tcw; 01-30-2012 at 10:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Haz, I have to hand it to you, you're right on this despite being a Giants fan.
    Gronkowski is listed as day to day with a high ankle sprain..... any worries yet?

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