tryvone martin

[zaggahamma]

Hahahahaha Ruin his reputation? But yet all the skittles talk and showing pictures of him between 11-14 is perfectly OK.

I still ask why the New black panthers are not being arrested for putting a bounty on his capture when he is in fact not a fugitive? Where is the justice? Why is this not being addressed? Even when it was asked to Rev. Al and Rev. Jesse if they thought it was OK they would not answer and just kept saying justice was not being done.

I bet MLK is turning in his grave because this is no what he wanted and these people (Rev. Al and Rev. Jesse) are not ture representatives of his and have defiled his message and it's meaning turning it into the exact opposite.

more transparency

[rockinred]

My take.

Chasing down what you think is an alleged criminal is dumb.
Confronting a person who is clearly chasing you is dumb.

What you get is this mess.

Media is so stupid. The guy was probably not racial and the kid was probably not innocent. Aside from that... it was a fight that went bad because of what I stated above. Both made bad choices.

there is no way that the Zimmerman guy was chasing some dude with an intent to kill and murder him. But that doesn't make him innocent either. He instigated the whole scenario if you ask me. All those putting a racial killer tag on him are just looking to stir shit up because of their own issues inside.

[zaggahamma]

My take.

Chasing down what you think is an alleged criminal is dumb.
Confronting a person who is clearly chasing you is dumb.

What you get is this mess.

Media is so stupid. The guy was probably not racial and the kid was probably not innocent. Aside from that... it was a fight that went bad because of what I stated above. Both made bad choices.

there is no way that the Zimmerman guy was chasing some dude with an intent to kill and murder him. But that doesn't make him innocent either. He instigated the whole scenario if you ask me. All those putting a racial killer tag on him are just looking to stir shit up because of their own issues inside.

very good take

and with no mention of race

[RaginCajun]

just found this and thought it could stir the pot some more

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/...180103647.html

[zaggahamma]

just found this and thought it could stir the pot some more

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/...180103647.html

yeh its on the news as well
when will our nation make EVERYTHING a race issue
we are always going to look different than one another but a crime is a crime
calling some crimes a hate crime just keeps the "color" police alive
or one organization protecting/protesting "defending" one race and one race only..that in itself is racist..just dont get it

[RaginCajun]

yeh its on the news as well
when will our nation make EVERYTHING a race issue
we are always going to look different than one another but a crime is a crime
calling some crimes a hate crime just keeps the "color" police alive
or one organization protecting/protesting "defending" one race and one race only..that in itself is racist..just dont get it

we will always be separated by race

[rockinred]

just found this and thought it could stir the pot some more

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/...180103647.html

It really doesn't stir anything up. The kid was a tough boy... not 100% innocent just like the rest of us. He wasn't a thug house robber either. He probably just thought he could handle the situation with some toughness, which many of us would think the same either at some point of time or now. Someone following you and you think you could take the guy so you confront and realize the guy is a punk and you decide to pop him based on what they talked about and then the fight starts. He still didn't deserve to be shot and that dude should have got his ass kicked like many of us have without pulling the gun. imo.

The fact is the kid was not some lil boy skipping down the road with candy in his pocket sucking his thumb drinking a soda pop and bam...some guy shot him because he was black. That's what the media is portraying.

The truth is the zimmerman guy went overboard with his zealous behavior of bringing down crime. The kid was a tough kid and didn't like it and the fight started. The guy couldn't handle gettin his ass kicked so he shot the kid.

could of been prevented by the guy being over zealous and the kid could of prevented by not confronting or communication. Still the kid is just a kid and made a bad choice and this guy is not a cold blooded killer... he just couldn't handle the situation as it progressed.

If I was a judge I would put some judgements against the zimmerman because he was the adult and could have prevented this. there is nothing racial going on here. It is all media hype and it is sad. The kid wasn't a 10 year old boy and appears to be a tough football player/athlete. Zimmerman wasn't a racial killer. I don't see what is so complicated about this case. Shit like this happens all the time. Fvckin media can really get things going thats for sure.

[RaginCajun]

It really doesn't stir anything up. The kid was a tough boy... not 100% innocent just like the rest of us. He wasn't a thug house robber either. He probably just thought he could handle the situation with some toughness, which many of us would think the same either at some point of time or now. Someone following you and you think you could take the guy so you confront and realize the guy is a punk and you decide to pop him based on what they talked about and then the fight starts. He still didn't deserve to be shot and that dude should have got his ass kicked like many of us have without pulling the gun. imo.

The fact is the kid was not some lil boy skipping down the road with candy in his pocket sucking his thumb drinking a soda pop and bam...some guy shot him because he was black. That's what the media is portraying.

The truth is the zimmerman guy went overboard with his zealous behavior of bringing down crime. The kid was a tough kid and didn't like it and the fight started. The guy couldn't handle gettin his ass kicked so he shot the kid.

could of been prevented by the guy being over zealous and the kid could of prevented by not confronting or communication. Still the kid is just a kid and made a bad choice and this guy is not a cold blooded killer... he just couldn't handle the situation as it progressed.

If I was a judge I would put some judgements against the zimmerman because he was the adult and could have prevented this. there is nothing racial going on here. It is all media hype and it is sad. The kid wasn't a 10 year old boy and appears to be a tough football player/athlete. Zimmerman wasn't a racial killer. I don't see what is so complicated about this case. Shit like this happens all the time. Fvckin media can really get things going thats for sure.

true dat!

[jasc]

It's sad how the media distorts sh*t n profits off the outrage. Back in the day the main focus of the News was to give the honest facts and had an emphasis on truth. Now the News pulls shit like this to pad their pockets...

[zaggahamma]

we will always be separated by race

exactly my point

[gixxerboy1]

i think i'm going to bow out of this conversation. Everything you hear contradicts something else. Who knows the truth. I think the actual real evidence should be presented to a grand jury and see if there is enough for arrest.

And its till a shame someone died over this

[zaggahamma]

It really doesn't stir anything up. The kid was a tough boy... not 100% innocent just like the rest of us. He wasn't a thug house robber either. He probably just thought he could handle the situation with some toughness, which many of us would think the same either at some point of time or now. Someone following you and you think you could take the guy so you confront and realize the guy is a punk and you decide to pop him based on what they talked about and then the fight starts. He still didn't deserve to be shot and that dude should have got his ass kicked like many of us have without pulling the gun. imo.

The fact is the kid was not some lil boy skipping down the road with candy in his pocket sucking his thumb drinking a soda pop and bam...some guy shot him because he was black. That's what the media is portraying.

The truth is the zimmerman guy went overboard with his zealous behavior of bringing down crime. The kid was a tough kid and didn't like it and the fight started. The guy couldn't handle gettin his ass kicked so he shot the kid.

could of been prevented by the guy being over zealous and the kid could of prevented by not confronting or communication. Still the kid is just a kid and made a bad choice and this guy is not a cold blooded killer... he just couldn't handle the situation as it progressed.

If I was a judge I would put some judgements against the zimmerman because he was the adult and could have prevented this. there is nothing racial going on here. It is all media hype and it is sad. The kid wasn't a 10 year old boy and appears to be a tough football player/athlete. Zimmerman wasn't a racial killer. I don't see what is so complicated about this case. Shit like this happens all the time. Fvckin media can really get things going thats for sure.

agree with most...

if indeed his head was being slammed to the ground then thats just not getting your ass kicked...if you have lost self defense and life in jeapordy then you have the right to protect with any means

[Shol'va]

i think i'm going to bow out of this conversation. Everything you hear contradicts something else. Who knows the truth. I think the actual real evidence should be presented to a grand jury and see if there is enough for arrest.

And its till a shame someone died over this

Yeah me too as it's all messed up and the truth was the first casualty.

[rockinred]

agree with most...

if indeed his head was being slammed to the ground then thats just not getting your ass kicked...if you have lost self defense and life in jeapordy then you have the right to protect with any means

I guess bro. Still that's the thing. I have seen many cowards scream in the face of violence and over react when it's not even half as bad as they thought. Later after they always laugh at themselves. . Truth will never be known at that point. I will have to think he freaked out and over reacted. I am sure that kid was jut giving him a good bearing. The kid only weighed 140 lbs. the guy obviously had no skills in minimally protecting himself. Maybe the guy pulled the gun and it was the kid screaming because after the whipping he have that guy he knew he was screwed.

Still a bunch of unknowns and a bad story. I don't think anything was the way the media portrayed it. Sorry ass reporters full of gossip. They should get paid minimum wage if you ask me

[zaggahamma]

I guess bro. Still that's the thing. I have seen many cowards scream in the face of violence and over react when it's not even half as bad as they thought. Later after they always laugh at themselves. . Truth will never be known at that point. I will have to think he freaked out and over reacted. I am sure that kid was jut giving him a good bearing. The kid only weighed 140 lbs. the guy obviously had no skills in minimally protecting himself. Maybe the guy pulled the gun and it was the kid screaming because after the whipping he have that guy he knew he was screwed.


Still a bunch of unknowns and a bad story. I don't think anything was the way the media portrayed it. Sorry ass reporters full of gossip. They should get paid minimum wage if you ask me

agree again
and agree with gix's last statement
should all be laid out before tried in the press and a shame the boy died/got killed
and or heads being called for in the name of racism

[Nooomoto]

I think some leaps may be made in this little article, but I sure as shit haven't seen any of these pictures or references to his social networking accounts on any cable news outlets. Interesting.

http://patdollard.com/2012/03/was-tr...ng-gangbanger/

[JohnnyVegas]

i think i'm going to bow out of this conversation. Everything you hear contradicts something else. Who knows the truth. I think the actual real evidence should be presented to a grand jury and see if there is enough for arrest.

And its till a shame someone died over this

There is a lot of chaos. I am just waiting for a week or two to see how it all shakes out. I hope a clear picture emerges. Unfortunately, people that disagree with the final outcome will just say it is a coverup. Hopefully that will be a small number of people.

[zaggahamma]

I think some leaps may be made in this little article, but I sure as shit haven't seen any of these pictures or references to his social networking accounts on any cable news outlets. Interesting.

http://patdollard.com/2012/03/was-tr...ng-gangbanger/

good read

[songdog]

sounds like the cops got some racist crap going on... if it was some middle class white boy getting shot outside a 7-11 in the ghetto and in surveillance you heard the black guy call him a cracker honkey before getting shot.. you bet your ash the whole county would have the black guy detained and beaten because of resisting and assaulting a cop (supposedly) .................................. i hope the guy in FL fries

That is BULLSH1T if this was a black guy who shot him nothing would be said.Happens everyday black on black.

[cherrydrpepper]

Someone tried to make me post in this trayvon martin thread so you know what I did