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    Two job offerings...need to make a decision ASAP

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    Man that's a tough 1. As I'm sure you are aware we really do need some good cops. The only problem is I think a lot of cops starting out good but get corrupt because of the system.

    The good ones I have spoke to say it's almost impossible for a cop just a good the way things are set up to nowadays. I'm sure it's not impossible though and you could definitely be an asset to the company and warso to the community.

    The club scene I'm sure has its corruptions but also you probably have a lot better chance of moving up quicker and building your reputation where is you can soon make some real money if that is the main goal.

    If it was me and the goal was money I would choose the club. Even though it starts out as lesser money I believe he can go up a lot quicker then if you were a police officer. If your passion is more to serve and protect then I would choose the police officer.

    Also if you ever have any political type goals or aspirations in the future then the police officer would be the best choice.

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    Police Officer any day of the week man. You have any idea how bad it is to be a cop! you can get into any club/bar/strip club for free just by showing your badge and thats just the beginning. And you can crack some skulls when you need to

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    Go with the club.
    Well i dont know the area of Maryland so kinda hard to give a full opinion. You passed the NJ test does Maryland have their own test?
    If you take the job serous at the casino you can meet a lot of people. And having a good network of people is more important then test results or a good resume. Alot of people bounce older then you. Alot of places wont even hire someone as young as you are. Dont look at yourself as a bouncer and dont act like one there. You are management. Big difference.

    Also the pay may not be as good but you know as head of security in AC there is some extra cash to be made
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    Police Officer any day of the week man. You have any idea how bad it is to be a cop! you can get into any club/bar/strip club for free just by showing your badge and thats just the beginning.
    Bullshit, Cops got no special treatment at anyplace i worked. And if you were cocky about it you werent ever getting in.

    Yea its real bad to be a cop. What driving around pulling people over for speeding or not wearing their seat belt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Bullshit, Cops got no special treatment at anyplace i worked. And if you were cocky about it you werent ever getting in.

    Yea its real bad to be a cop. What driving around pulling people over for speeding or not wearing their seat belt?
    I already knew this was going to come from you even before you posted it, I knew you never let a cop in for special treatment considering you hate them and were a bouncer. We have a difference of opinion on those who wear the shield. The dude went to school to be a cop, so he does no hate them. I respect anyone who wears the shield. Its the cops that have been around for years that have the bad atitude. Fresh boots from school are good guys that just want to have a good job and do a good thing. They are very underpaid. If we didnt have cops there would be massive crime with no one to stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Bullshit, Cops got no special treatment at anyplace i worked. And if you were cocky about it you werent ever getting in.

    Yea its real bad to be a cop. What driving around pulling people over for speeding or not wearing their seat belt?
    x2...I've had most of fights with cops or active military guys. I remember one time last year, this 50+ year old state troop started shit, I think he took a swing at Haz and another guy in the club - I remember Haz choked him out and ripped his blazer in half (which was mine that I lent him) then I tee'd off him for a couple seconds and what's the first thing he does outside? Pulls out his badge and tells everyone how hes going to get the place shut down. Yeahhhh okay buddy. The place is still running and you got manhandled- have a nice night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    x2...I've had most of fights with cops or active military guys. I remember one time last year, this 50+ year old state troop started shit, I think he took a swing at Haz and another guy in the club - I remember Haz choked him out and ripped his blazer in half (which was mine that I lent him) then I tee'd off him for a couple seconds and what's the first thing he does outside? Pulls out his badge and tells everyone how hes going to get the place shut down. Yeahhhh okay buddy. The place is still running and you got manhandled- have a nice night
    You got in fight with cops and you want to be one? How does that work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    You got in fight with cops and you want to be one? How does that work
    Bouncing since HS, I think I've seriously gotten into a fight with someone from every profession and race/origin. Assholes are everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Man that's a tough 1. As I'm sure you are aware we really do need some good cops. The only problem is I think a lot of cops starting out good but get corrupt because of the system.

    The good ones I have spoke to say it's almost impossible for a cop just a good the way things are set up to nowadays. I'm sure it's not impossible though and you could definitely be an asset to the company and warso to the community.

    The club scene I'm sure has its corruptions but also you probably have a lot better chance of moving up quicker and building your reputation where is you can soon make some real money if that is the main goal.

    If it was me and the goal was money I would choose the club. Even though it starts out as lesser money I believe he can go up a lot quicker then if you were a police officer. If your passion is more to serve and protect then I would choose the police officer.

    Also if you ever have any political type goals or aspirations in the future then the police officer would be the best choice.
    See that's the issue. I need to find a balance between making good money and doing something that I will enjoy and will be able to do the rest of my life.

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    You going to hate that job in atlantic city for a few reason...biggest reason...its atlantic city. that place is foul and disgusting...your going to be inside a dirty smoky casino for your life. Ever seen casino staff? They all look like death and reek of it. At least as a cop in maryland you could be Boston PD and get in shootouts with robbers haha like that movie The Town.
    Casino Staff..dead end job seems like, a Cop a career and doing a good thing.

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    Easy decision bro take job 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    You going to hate that job in atlantic city for a few reason...biggest reason...its atlantic city. that place is foul and disgusting...your going to be inside a dirty smoky casino for your life. Ever seen casino staff? They all look like death and reek of it. At least as a cop in maryland you could be boston PD and get in shootouts with robbers haha
    I take it you didn't do too well in Geography class in grade school. lmao. Just breaking your balls, I know you meant Baltimore (I hope)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Easy decision bro take job 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    I take it you didn't do too well in Geography class in grade school. lmao. Just breaking your balls, I know you meant Baltimore (I hope)
    Yea Baltimore, sorry

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    If you have the opportunity to live rent free and get out of debt then I would suck it up and do security for a year and then re-evaluate when you're debt free.

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    Dont go the cop route.

    Security for the Trop. Dude correct me if Im wrong but isnt that Ceasers entertainment. Tons of contacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    I already knew this was going to come from you even before you posted it, I knew you never let a cop in for special treatment considering you hate them and were a bouncer. We have a difference of opinion on those who wear the shield. The dude went to school to be a cop, so he does no hate them. I respect anyone who wears the shield. Its the cops that have been around for years that have the bad atitude. Fresh boots from school are good guys that just want to have a good job and do a good thing. They are very underpaid. If we didnt have cops there would be massive crime with no one to stop it.
    you may respect any with a badge. Most dont. Most bouncers hate them. so i was more commenting on your claim you will get into any bar/club for free being wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    If you have the opportunity to live rent free and get out of debt then I would suck it up and do security for a year and then re-evaluate when you're debt free.
    The rent free is moving back in with Pops..does not sound that enticing for a college grad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    you may respect any with a badge. Most dont. Most bouncers hate them. so i was more commenting on your claim you will get into any bar/club for free being wrong.
    Were I am from thats how it is here, I cannot make that claim where you are from. People here respect SDPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    The rent free is moving back in with Pops..does not sound that enticing for a college grad.
    It kind of boils down to moving back with dad and buying a brand new cadillac cts OR living on my own in Baltimore and still drive a shitty car, with plenty of debt. So difficult.

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    1) you will get out of debt faster
    2) in the end you will probably make more $$
    3) Can meet more important people and build a network
    4) its not maryland
    5) you can always do the cop thing when NJ is hiring.
    6) Getting out of debt is hard to do. And i dont see that happening living on yuor own in maryland making 42k
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Bullshit, Cops got no special treatment at anyplace i worked. And if you were cocky about it you werent ever getting in.

    Yea its real bad to be a cop. What driving around pulling people over for speeding or not wearing their seat belt?
    any club ive worked dosnt even want garda (cops) in there, they think they own the fvcking place and when you try throw them out they threaten to have you arrested, house raided etc and they dont even spend money in the club, just stick to bottles of beer they arent worth the hassle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    Bouncing since HS, I think I've seriously gotten into a fight with someone from every profession and race/origin. Assholes are everywhere.
    everyone has one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    any club ive worked dosnt even want garda (cops) in there, they think they own the fvcking place and when you try throw them out they threaten to have you arrested, house raided etc and they dont even spend money in the club, just stick to bottles of beer they arent worth the hassle
    No how many i used to get to try and bring their guns inside. Yea i want your cocky ass drinking and carrying a gun.
    The only cops i would let in 1 place in philly is the ones we paid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    It kind of boils down to moving back with dad and buying a brand new cadillac cts OR living on my own in Baltimore and still drive a shitty car, with plenty of debt. So difficult.
    who says that in a few years from the security job that they wont give you a company cts with free petrol etc and twice a cops wages, thats realistic, earning that $$$$ as a cop isnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    No how many i used to get to try and bring their guns inside. Yea i want your cocky ass drinking and carrying a gun.
    The only cops i would let in 1 place in philly is the ones we paid
    shhhhhhhhh lol

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    I would do the club thing, and get out of debt before I bought a new car. Drive the shitty one for a few more miles.
    New town, job, rent, and debt. No thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    The rent free is moving back in with Pops..does not sound that enticing for a college grad.
    So it'd be better to never get out of debt and very possibly dig yourself in a deeper debt that could last a lifetime all because living for free with parents for 1 year at 22 yrs old doesn't sound enticing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    So it'd be better to never get out of debt and very possibly dig yourself in a deeper debt that could last a lifetime all because living for free with parents for 1 year at 22 yrs old doesn't sound enticing?
    yea but you get to tell people your a cop and get free coffee at dunkin doughnuts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    So it'd be better to never get out of debt and very possibly dig yourself in a deeper debt that could last a lifetime all because living for free with parents for 1 year at 22 yrs old doesn't sound enticing?
    That's my thoughts as well. I've been living on my own and paying my rent for 4 years. Moving back in with my father for 6-18months really isn't the end of the world.

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    are you in it for the money or for some ideal that you have in your mind about doing good???

    Doesn't really matter, unless you have a masters degree in criminal justice you'll be a cop for ever..

    My suggestion is take the #2 job and continue on with your education, get some experience and then when you are in a better position you'll be able to make an informed decission..

    6 yrs LE... OSI, K-9, and Nuclear..

    become a US Marshall... that's the adventure, and the $$$... your masters can be in CJ, but accounting would be a better avenue and more employable by many more agencies..

    but that's just my 1st hand experience..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    yea but you get to tell people your a cop and get free coffee at dunkin doughnuts
    he's being sarcastic..

    It's the one profession where you are lied to by every person you come in contact with even those that you work with on a daily and hourly basis..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    he's being sarcastic..

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    Oh i know. I was joking around, I was being sarcastic also
    i know it's bagels now..
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    w/ cream cheese? Fvck it be a cop then
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    My opinion is coming from a Canadian Point of View + slightly biased, and I'm not entirely sure of the American LE system. Regardless, I'd go with the second choice. You will make friends and have strong networking as already previously mentioned. I've never met a cop I haven't wanted to kill. My $0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
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    2) in the end you will probably make more $$
    3) Can meet more important people and build a network
    4) its not maryland
    5) you can always do the cop thing when NJ is hiring.
    6) Getting out of debt is hard to do. And i dont see that happening living on yuor own in maryland making 42k
    Gixx made a unarguable point, this is probably your best option looking at all the angles. Get rid of debt is the most important thing.

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