How simmilar are tbol and var

[Razor]

Would you say tbol is more simmilar to dbol or too var? As far as how your body responds and results.

[BreakingFace]

Interested in this one as well. It would be nice to hear from guys who have experience running both.

[Razor]

Anyone with the knowledge to answer this?

[awms]

In my experience Tbol was much better! but I used Tbol in my first cycle so the effect it had could have been due to the fact that I was a virgin. With Var my vascularity was absolutely insane! I loved it! my veins looked like hydro cables lol without changing my diet I lost a bit of fat around my mid section which was nice but the strength gains were disappointing to say the least! I would use it again but only if I was cutting. Tbol was the best oral I have used! strength shot threw the roof after being on 80mg a day after a week! I kick started my test with Tbol and while taking adex I put on about 8lbs in 3 weeks which was 99% lean! I added about an inch to my arms and felt great....the only negative I would note with Tbol is at the end up the third week I would get nose bleeds every couple days and If you cut your self shaving your sink will look like a murder scene! haha

Var:
Strength - 2/10
Size - 4/10
Vascularity - 10/10
Fat loss - 10/10

Tbol:
Strength - 7/10
Size - 8/10
Vascularity - 8/10
Fat loss - 5/10

Dbol :
Strength - 8/10
Size - 10/10
Vascualrity - 4/10
Fat loss - 1/10


I think It all comes down to you goal! IMO if your looking to drop fat fast and you are cutting go with Var, If your lookiing to just add pure mass and strength go with Dbol, and if your looking to kind of have the best of both worlds or the most well rounded oral go with Tbol.

[redz]

I hated tbol myself it is too mild. I was taking 60mg ed and I felt very little and I do not doubt that source. It is just not an overwhelmingly noticable steroid . Var I have only tried for a short time and felt it had mroe kick to it but I was taking 80mg ed.

[Razor]

Seems like tbol is the best of both worlds..and a good way to kick start a test cycle.

[V-ROID]

I took some Var for a month or so that someone gave me for free, if it was actually Var... Been more than a few years since but for the price it actually costs I don't think it would be worth it for the average cycle. I felt a little stronger and recovery was better. Then before I found this site I did Tbol only (I know, I know...) for 6 weeks and I loved it! Well I loved it for about 4 weeks then was dragging ass due to low Test... Tbol made me stronger, harder, bigger, increased my aerobic capacity, sped up recovery and bone like a champ. Couldn't help but think how great it would have been with Test so a couple years later I did a Test/H-drol cycle since H-drol is supposed to be similar. It wasn't as good as I expected and back pumps way worse than Tbol. In a couple days I start a Test/Dbol cyle. Then next cycle will be Test/Winny. I would much rather be using Tbol, and after I get rid of this Dbol and Winny I can honestly say that if I ever run another oral it will only be Tbol. The cost is between Dbol and Var and I have heard it called "The Poor Mans Var" and "Dbol Lite". I hope to have much more experience with Tbol in the next few years, just thought I would chime in.

[awms]

I have had good tbol and fake or under dosed tbol before, the good stuff I got from a well known lab and it was amazing! unreal lean gains! the under dosed or fake stuff I got from a well known canadian UGL and it sucked! I was up to 120mg a day and I think it was baking powder because at 80mg of the other lab I was killing it in the gym!