being a white man in 21st century america

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 07:16 PM

now let me start off by saying, that probably 60% of my friends are 'minorities", so this is not some neo-nazi rant or anything like that..

you dont have to have a phd or have a 160 iq to see that whites are being demonized by the media, culture and overall society everyday. and its progressing. whether its the rejection of whites by universities to be more "multicultural", or the treyvon martin incident (where zimmerman isnt even white, hes half jewish and hispanic) yet the recent stories like the two white reporters who got beaten half to death on the east coast by a mob of black youths, or the kid in the kansas i believe who was set on fire before being called a "white boy" by two black youths (how come the media doesnt make a huge hysteria out of that) and the list goes on and on of stories or institutional standings on race.

i believe in having a multicultural society, however you have to really break down what multicultural means, this term admits to the fact that one culture dominates and created this society (ie whites). so to add to that culture we must add more cultures (ie multi) so to be multicultural is a good thing, but it seems our state owned whore media seems to think that the only way to have a multicultural society is to have one at the expense of the white race.. you can see the proof of this from the certain percentage of minorities that must be admitted to universities, law enfor***ent, military and the workplace. isnt that racism in itself?

there are thousands of examples of how whites cannot be proud of their race or congregate in any way, but i will tell you one that stood out the most. i was looking at my college "clubs list"
and there are hundreds of clubs and alot of them are clubs to do with ethnicity or culture, there was a black club, an african history club, a persian club, a hispanic club, an asian club, but now white club. and ill end here because i could go on and on about this but im just sick and tired of not being able to be proud to be white and of my peoples accomplishments

i mean whether you like it or not whites started this nation and now were treated like filthy scum by the media and the old and new generation of minorities, it makes me sick

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 07:34 PM

nice rant
is this the only handle you have "viking88" or do you use others here on the board?
you say you are 20? that means you've been all over the world and have a wealth of life experience to bback up all these observations you've made?
many can criticize, few actually have the balls to do something about it.
I apprecaite your input, as we all have the freedom to speak our minds.
And I'll speak mine.
Your words are vile and inciteful. What is the purpose of this rant? I'm betting you are a snot nose kid and haven't seen shit of this world, let alone the USA. So get off your friggin high horse and help make this world a better place, not worse as you seem to be tring to do with your hateful words.
Have a nice day!
---Roman

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

nice rant
is this the only handle you have "viking88" or do you use others here on the board?
you say you are 20? that means you've been all over the world and have a wealth of life experience to bback up all these observations you've made?
many can criticize, few actually have the balls to do something about it.
I apprecaite your input, as we all have the freedom to speak our minds.
And I'll speak mine.
Your words are vile and inciteful. What is the purpose of this rant? I'm betting you are a snot nose kid and haven't seen shit of this world, let alone the USA. So get off your friggin high horse and help make this world a better place, not worse as you seem to be tring to do with your hateful words.
Have a nice day!
---Roman

apparently your supposed experience with your apparent age difference has not gifted you with the ability to read, as i said the majority of my friends are non whites, and i also said having a multicultural society is a good thing, i just said not at the expense of the white man

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by viking88;600***1

apparently your supposed experience with your apparent age difference has not gifted you with the ability to read, as i said the majority of my friends are non whites, and i also said having a multicultural society is a good thing, i just said not at the expense of the white man

you defended yourself before your rant, which is usually a sign that the defense is less than legit. Would your 60% minority friends agree with the position you made in your rant? Some people can look at a glass and see it is half full. You, on the other hand.....

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 07:44 PM

oh and if your going to say i said something "vile" and "inciteful" id like you to site which sentence i said that was anything close to those two terms.. maybe you dont know what those words mean? i dont know, but i did not say one nefarious word nor sentence in my entire "rant"

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 07:48 PM

"60% of my minority friends" are proud of their race, and im glad their proud, my point is that i cannot be proud, because people like you call me "vile" for it

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 07:50 PM

let me ask. if your minority "friends" knew this is really how you felt, would they still be your friend? or do you keep your feelings hidden when your minority friends are around?

**Jessgirl** · 05-12-2012, 07:56 PM

WOW ....I HOPE YOU WERE WASTED WHEN POSTING THIS THREAD !, not that I would like or agree with your thoughts...

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 08:07 PM

you just proved my point on two issues. first, your reading ability is quite limited for a old man like yourself. second, you are avoiding both my comments.

well i suppose you would never ask me how i would feel and "how i felt" that my minority friends were proud of their race.. implying that they are racists because of their strong sense of nationality which you are fallaciously accusing me of being. your implication is that its only mutually exclusive for whites when it comes to a sense of pride of their race and being in solidarity with other races, even at the verbal level.

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jessgirl

WOW ....I HOPE YOU WERE WASTED WHEN POSTING THIS THREAD !, not that I would like or agree with your thoughts...

unfortunately, we get threads like this from time to time.

I have to disagree with the idea that "white men are victimized" or other such silly nonsense. It may happen in a small number of incidents, but taken as a whole, I have to seriously disagree. it is easy to take things out of context and use that as the banner for the argument that the white man "aint given his fair share", but to be 100% honest, i have lived all over the world and seen things first hand that would make most puke. So when I get youngsters in here that claim that "white men" are getting screwed, I seriously have to laugh. the reality is that the white man STILL has the advantage over most when it comes to hiring practices (maybe not at a low level), law enfor***ent (how many whites get pulled over for being in the wrong neighborhood?), and other various aspects of our functioning society that white males dont' see, yet black men and others have to live through every day.

anyways, i digress.

OP... you were saying?

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by viking88

"60% of my minority friends" are proud of their race, and im glad their proud, my point is that i cannot be proud, because people like you call me "vile" for it

here's the difference between you and I....

....I really don't identify myself by calling myself white. I am who I am, period!

**Razor** · 05-12-2012, 08:27 PM

Sometimes I wish I was Thor

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 08:28 PM

you know what roman, since you dont have the ability to respond to my points and defer them to another post by jessgirl, ill just keep it civil and honest..

you are apparently older than me and may have lived all over the world, but im not talking about geography or the past here, im talking about modern day america in the 21st century. ive been personally denied jobs saying that they are required to hire more "minorities" i mean literally told me that to my face, i was denied a certain college with a 4.0 gpa with other extracurricular activities. and i read an article from that school a month later how they increased minority students by 35% that semester

and for you to say its ok for whites too be discriminated against because of being white when it comes to "low level" jobs and university opportunities, is disgusting and racist in and of itself

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Razr.

Sometimes I wish I was Thor

I have his tattoo......

.....seriously!

**< <Samson> >** · 05-12-2012, 08:34 PM

Have you watched American History X?

You sound just like that. . . . .

I somewhat agree I suppose, maybe a little. . . . But, in a different way.

The jobs that "minorities" take, the white man does not want.

**Times Roman** · 05-12-2012, 08:36 PM

ah.... he's a young kid that hasn't seen much except what mom and dad tells him.....

**Razor** · 05-12-2012, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I have his tattoo......

.....seriously!

Post a pic!! Does he told the hammer!?

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by samson_420

Have you watched American History X?

You sound just like that. . . . .

I somewhat agree I suppose, maybe a little. . . . But, in a different way.

The jobs that "minorities" take, the white man does not want.

samson, i know. i am pro immigration actually. because it will boost the economy on the industrial level from the jobs of the factories and the fields

im talking about educated minorities who apply to low level or mid level jobs, thats where the discrimination kicks in, because the corporations are obligated to keep a certain level of "multicultural" worker number, and same with the universities.

thats all im saying here! the media especially the liberal media (lol pretty much everything expect fox news, which i hate too) always subtly implies how whites are all the same and the stereo type of whites are "old racists"

**Igifuno** · 05-12-2012, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by viking88

im talking about educated minorities who apply to low level or mid level jobs, thats where the discrimination kicks in, because the corporations are obligated to keep a certain level of "multicultural" worker number, and same with the universities.

This is not entirely true. Corporations and businesses in general are required to provide an equal employment opportunity. However, certain employers can choose to go, what they consider to be, "beyond non-discrimination" where their goal is to actively improve the economic status of minorities so they can catch up, or have the same opportunities in employment, education and things like business ownership (there are some affirmative action groups that will loan money to minorities only for this reason).

From an economic standpoint, this makes sense if you think about it, right? The national (US) unemployment rate is currently 8%. 15% of the African-American population is unemployed if I'm not mistaken. So in many cases, they are already at a disadvantage and can really benefit from these preferences, since their credentials are statistically weaker then those of their white male counterparts (I'm only saying male here because women are also a protected class). Make sense?

Listen, I'm not for handouts. I believe this country was built from people who worked hard, made good decisions and reaped the benefits of their labor. The hard workers grew rich, the lazy became poor. But wait a second, this isn't entirely true either, is it? Up until very recently, even those African-Americans and minorities who worked hard didn't have the same rights as we did, and so they did not have the same education as we did, and so on.

Just so I'm not being mistaken for a left winged liberal here, I was registered Republican from 18-29, at which time I registered Independent and have been since. Im against this left wing socialistic way of life that will only weaken us as a country and, at the end of the day, the hard workers will give less effort because the lazy are reaping some of their benefits. Everyone will be mediocre and that is unacceptable.

So then, my point here is that Affirmative Action makes economic sense in the US.

Peace,

Igi

**SexySweetheart** · 05-12-2012, 09:34 PM

baaahahaha ever hear of the "glass ceiling" OP? you think you have it ruff as a white male, try being a gal in any color and see how your life can take a shift lol

sorry, but op has a point imo
whites are the among the targets for discrimination (we have to be hyper sensitive to all other minorities; yet at the same time, seemingly no form of sensitivity towards whites is returned, but in fact whites are targeted to make up for whatever horrid things our grand/great grand/great great gran folks did) that’s discrimination
.
sad truth is that Americans decimate... and discrimination includes the exclusion or inclusion of any one for anything.
So when we even try to do "what is rite" by giving only native American’s free land ~ we are discriminating/ when organizations give out certain student loans to only those that meet certain criteria ~we are discriminating / when a welfare reciprocant applies for a job they are asked if they receive state aide, if they do and the company hires them, the company receives state perks ~ we are again enabling discrimination .
All of these forms of discrimination seem to make since and appear to be positive but the truth is discrimination will never end as long as we are accepting of it in any form...including minorities being able to have (ex. black network television) yet another group is unable to have (ex. white network television) but again that’s just acknowledging the color aspect of discrimination

not a minority hater here, just a realist. If a group wants equal rights they should not set their right above or be expected to set it below another group.

**Igifuno** · 05-12-2012, 09:47 PM

I guess perception is reality and, as a realist, I'm sure you agree that discrimination will never go away because some form of it will always be accepted (if it's perceived as discrimination and obviously it is, right?). Sad thing is, for many, this is the root of resent and hatred which there is too much of already in the world.

**MickeyKnox** · 05-12-2012, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by viking88

now let me start off by saying, that probably 60% of my friends are 'minorities", so this is not some neo-nazi rant or anything like that....

....i mean whether you like it or not whites started this nation and now were treated like filthy scum by the media and the old and new generation of minorities, it makes me sick

no we didn't. the Mexicans and Indians did. and we (the white people) stole it from them. you're welcome..

**viking88** · 05-12-2012, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

no we didn't. the Mexicans and Indians did. and we (the white people) stole it from them. you're welcome..

Mexicans and Indians created the constitution? they created capitalism? they united the orginal colonies and then expanded westward ? read a book you moron. the us went to war with Mexico in 1846-1848 and defeated them and paid.them a sum of money for present day southwest. god that has to be the most incompetent statement i ever heard.

**Jessgirl** · 05-12-2012, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

here's the difference between you and I....

....I really don't identify myself by calling myself white. I am who I am, period!

COULD NOT HAVE SAID BETTER !!!!!!!!!!!!second that

**Renesis** · 05-13-2012, 01:22 AM

He isn't wrong I as a Mexican can sit at my job and be as racist as I want and it is hilarious to see how uncomfortable white people get because they want to agree, but are afraid of being looked down at. Then again I can't go into small stores or anything even dressed nicely and not be watched so its w/e.

**ironbeck** · 05-13-2012, 04:00 AM

Reverse discrimination? Personally I get by on my good looks. I'm sexy and i know it....lol

**Bencher** · 05-13-2012, 05:01 AM

I was on a tube (you guys might wana call it a subway) on my way home from a long hard shift concreting at work. I wasn't in the mood for bullshit. I was approached by 2 young black guys, they asked for my phone and i told them no. 1 of them punched me, so i punched him back, he went down and his mate backed off. i got off the train, got arrested, charged in court with racially aggravated assault. I recieved a suspended sentence, i had to pay victim compo and now have a criminal record.

WHAT THE HELL?

**ironbeck** · 05-13-2012, 05:02 AM

That's bullocks

**DSM4Life** · 05-13-2012, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by Razr.

Sometimes I wish I was Thor

Thor is one of the hottest men alive.

**Shol'va** · 05-13-2012, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Thor is one of the hottest men alive.

I'd hold his hammer..

**MickeyKnox** · 05-13-2012, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by viking88

Mexicans and Indians created the constitution? they created capitalism? they united the orginal colonies and then expanded westward ? read a book you moron. the us went to war with Mexico in 1846-1848 and defeated them and paid.them a sum of money for present day southwest. god that has to be the most incompetent statement i ever heard.

sorry i was referring to "ownership", my bad.....you fvcking racist ignorant piece of shit.

**viking88** · 05-13-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

sorry i was referring to "ownership", my bad.....you fvcking racist ignorant piece of shit.

your avatar is an analogy to your level of intellect and reasoning

poor guy

**viking88** · 05-13-2012, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

sorry i was referring to "ownership", my bad.....you fvcking racist ignorant piece of shit.

this is what im talking about people, im racist just because of being white, i stated facts, and that makes me "racist ignorant piece of shit"

your the one who is ignorant for calling me those terms.

**ironbeck** · 05-13-2012, 09:48 AM

Instead of being mad about it which will do nothing, strive to be even better...so good you set an exemplary example of a well adjusted man capable of anything,with no limitations without saying a word.

**MickeyKnox** · 05-13-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by viking88

Mexicans and Indians created the constitution? they created capitalism? they united the orginal colonies and then expanded westward ? read a book you moron. the us went to war with Mexico in 1846-1848 and defeated them and paid.them a sum of money for present day southwest. god that has to be the most incompetent statement i ever heard.

it started here.

but it ends here and now. you're nothing but a lonely person who has amounted to nothing more than a confused shit disturber who wants to argue with people. you probably spend your free time sitting around re-reading your posts and whacking off.

im out.

**DeniZen** · 05-13-2012, 09:52 AM

Viking who really cares about all this shit? Life is about day to day stuff, family. working having fun. I don't see how you're caught up in all of this shit and perceptions. Who cares?

**viking88** · 05-13-2012, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by DeniZen

Viking who really cares about all this shit? Life is about day to day stuff, family. working having fun. I don't see how you're caught up in all of this shit and perceptions. Who cares?

your right, but the perception has now become a reality and when external factors from society start to affect your personally, at the very least your are obliged to speak your mind and talk it out with others. sometimes you cant just ignore things in life and pretend they dont exist

**Armykid93** · 05-13-2012, 10:05 AM

Don't agree completely although I do agree there is some reverse racism going on by the media. Is it sometHing we should worry about? No, white people are still among the richest in this country and probably always will be. The rich get richer because they are smart, nothing wrong with that

**DeniZen** · 05-13-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by viking88

your right, but the perception has now become a reality and when external factors from society start to affect your personally, at the very least your are obliged to speak your mind and talk it out with others. sometimes you cant just ignore things in life and pretend they dont exist

Class struggle is as old the hills...its absolutely human nature so deal with it or jump off a cliff lol American culture was built from ground up my the lower class...doesnt matter what color. When my granddad was a kid, Irish and Italian immigrants in New York were considered non-whites lol

**gixxerboy1** · 05-13-2012, 10:23 AM

there is racism against every race. They are sections of NY you dont want to goto if you are white. You are correct you will get fvcked with. But if you are black or something else there are sections you dont want to goto either. Its life. Your rant just seems childish and poor me.